Debates between Christians and atheists rarely end in consensus because of a fundamental difference in whom you can trust. To the Christian, the clergy are most trustworthy members of society. To the atheist, the clergy are con men, child rapists, liars, deceivers and worse. To the atheists, scientists are most trustworthy members of society because they subscribe to a code of conduct designed to discover truth and do extensive cross checking of each other.
To the Christian, scientists are people with a hidden agenda to destroy public morality. Scientists are wicked because they are unwilling to distort the truth to defend of religious moral codes.
To the atheist, the clergy are wicked because they are eager to distort the truth to defend archaic religious moral codes that promote slavery, homophobia, misogyny and bigotry.
To help a Christian out of his delusions we must shake him out of his blind trust in the clergy and find ways to assure him that science has no such hidden agenda. On the Christian side, it has not all that much to do with whether a deity exists, it is all about who is more trustworthy. A Christian completely distrusts his own ability to discover truth for himself. He believes he has no choice but to trust authorities.~ Roedy (1948-02-04 age:69)