I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
~ Stephen F. Roberts (born: 1967 age: 42)
Christians have a special word for people who don’t believe in Jesus, “ atheists” or sometimes “pagans”. Muslims have a special word for people who don’t believe in Allah, “infidels”. Jews have a special word for those who don’t believe in Jahweh, “gentiles”. Every religion has a word for deniers of the faith. To describe me then you need a giant list, atheist, infidel, gentile, Zeus-denier… Those are your epithets for me, not mine. I almost never think to myself “I am an infidel” any more that I think to myself “I am a faggot”. That is some bigot’s term for me. I simply reject all the 10,000 religions, not just 9,999 of them as you do. We are in 99.99% agreement on the bogosity of the world’s religions. It is just that I don’t see yours as any more plausible than all the rest.
~ Roedy (born: 1948-02-04 age: 61)
General ideas, especially moral ones, impressed on us at an early age, often become deeply embedded in your brains. It can be very difficult to change them. This may help to explain why religious beliefs persist from generation to generation. But how did ideas originate in the first place? And why do they so often turn out to be incorrect? The very nature of our brains evolved to guess the most plausible interpretation of the limited evidence available makes it almost inevitable that without the discipline of scientific research we shall often jump to the wrong conclusions especially about rather abstract matters.
~ Francis Crick (born: 1916-06-08 died: 2004-07-28 at age: 88), co-discoverer of the structure of DNA.
But we all recognise the primary foible of frail humanity — our propensity for embracing hope and shunning logic, our tendency to believe what we desire rather than what we observe.
~ Dr. Stephen Jay Gould (born: 1941-09-10 died: 2002-05-02 at age: 60), Rocks of Ages
Religion: a set of beliefs, unsupported by facts, that are obviously false, fanciful and absurd to everyone but those who have been immersed in them from birth.
~ Roedy (born: 1948-02-04 age: 61)
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca (born: 4 BC died: 65 AD at age: 68)
Are you afraid of death? You have already “experienced” being dead for billions of years. It is exactly the same as before you were conceived. If you are afraid, it because you tremble before the monster god under the bed that somebody made up to scare you to control or con you out of your money. The religionists, like drug pushers, offer even more of this poisonous belief to cure your fear of death. It is not the cure; it is the cause!
~ Roedy (born: 1948-02-04 age: 61)
The word God has become empty of meaning through thousands of years of misuse. I use it sometimes, but I so sparingly. By misuse I mean that people who have never even glimpsed the realm of the sacred, the infinite vastness behind that word, use it with great conviction as if they knew what they were talking about. Or, they argue against it, as if they knew what it is that they are denying.
~ Eckhart Tolle (born: 1948-02-16 age: 61) The Power Of Now
What I primarily mean in this essay by God is:
| Ree’s Six Universal Constants Essential To Life | ||
|---|---|---|
| Symbol | What it Measures | Comments |
| force that binds atomic nuclei together. | The difficulties if it were too weak are pretty obvious, but I do not know how it being a little stronger would have affected the universe. | |
| binding strength of forces that hold atoms together divided by gravitational attraction. | If gravity were not much much weaker than the other forces, only short-lived miniature universes could exist. | |
| density of matter in the universe. | If it were larger, the universe would have collapsed long ago. If it were smaller, no galaxies and stars could have formed. | |
| the strength of the cosmic antigravity that controls the expansion of the universe. | If it were stronger, no stars could have formed. | |
| the size of the ripples in the expanding universe. | If it were smaller, the universe would be a mass of cold gas. If it were larger, great gobs of matter would have collapsed into black holes. | |
| the number of dimensions in our spacial universe, i.e. 3. | If this were different, our universe would be very different from the one we are familiar with, but I see no reason it could not support life or something else equally interesting. This same argument applies in a lesser degree to the other constants. | |
What makes fantastic declarations believable is, in part, the vehemence with which they’re proffered. Again, in the world of spirituality as well as of pop psychology, intensity of personal belief is evidence of truth. It is considered very bad form — even abuse — to challenge the veracity of any personal testimony that might be offered in a twelve-step group or on a talk show, unless the testimony itself is equivocal… Whatever sells, whatever many people believe strongly, must be true.Some people just know in their bones that God exists. They can’t imagine life without that comfort. Obviously, a belief in God is comforting. Your enemies will eventually be punished, you will eventually be exonerated, your pain will eventually be replaced with joy and you will be reunited with those you love who have died. Quite a package! Yet what has comfort to do with truth? The truth often hurts. People who have been conned often refuse to recognize the signs of betrayal simply because they want so badly for the con to be true. Wishful thinking clouds the mind. Just what evidence is there that any of this Christian mumbo jumbo is true? The only "evidence" is repeated assertion. Repeated assertion when a child is very young creates rock-like faith in any arrant nonsense. Just look at the children of cult members. We don’t recognise this as a con even though the believer hands over money and unquestioning obedience to another in the promise of a reward which, so far as we can tell, is never delivered.
~ Wendy Kaminer (born: 1950 age: 59)
I am satisfied, and sufficiently occupied with the things which are, without tormenting or troubling myself about those which may indeed be, but of which I have no evidence.
~ Thomas Jefferson (born: 1743-04-13 died: 1826-07-04 at age: 83), in a letter to John Adams, 1820-08-15
Using a slightly more sophisticated Newtonian view of his logic, you might imagine inanimate objects move either because they were already moving or because something bumped into them. I would expect a lay person should have no difficulty at all with the Hindu view that this moving process has been going on indefinitely into the past. If it going for 5 billion years does not bother you, then surely it could go for 5 billion years and one day without needing a magic jump-start.
Postulating that previous to some point, nothing existed, then shazam, the entire universe appeared fully formed, all moving in complex patterns, as if it had just woken from a dream, strikes me as too bizarre for words. Why would god do nothing for that infinite time prior to the creation? Surely the fact of the universe is mind-boggling enough without making up even more mind-boggling god-based creation myths for which there is no evidence.
Father Coyne is fully aware of the mathematics and astronomical observation that can look back in time to see the birth of the universe, because light travels so slowly, and because the universe is expanding, some of the light that left at time of the creation is just arriving on earth now. Scientists, including Father Coyne, know how this moving process started and evolved in considerable detail. However, he continues to try to bamboozle others with his Prime Mover argument for motives that must remain a mystery.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
~ George Bernard Shaw (born: 1856-07-26 died: 1950-11-02 at age: 94)
What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church… a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.If you watch Nanny 9/11 you will discover parents who threaten their children with grievous bodily harm raise little monsters. The children beat and punch their siblings, using the same tactics god suppedly uses on them. That sort of violent threat has the exact opposite effect of that desired.
~ Martin Luther (born: 1483-11-10 died: 1546-02-18 at age: 62)
Nearly 300 years after the Age of Reason was prematurely announced, most people, in most nations, most of the time, are mentally in total bondage to religious leader who operate on sheer bluff, i.e. on the basis of claims that cannot be proven and appear clearly insane to everybody who hasn’t been raised within their frameworks.
~ Robert Anton Wilson (born: 1932-01-18 died: 2007-01-11 at age: 74)
Christians often go their whole lives without doubting the childhood stories of Santa Claus or his older brother Jesus, despite ample empirical evidence that praying for a pony does not work.
futilty of prayer
~ Roedy (born: 1948-02-04 age: 61)
From a practical point of view, what people are really interested in when they talk about the existence of God, is can He be persuaded to bend the normal rules of the universe to provide special beneficence for ourselves and special punishment for our enemies. Despite all the wild claims to the contrary, there is no statistical evidence that God plays any favourites. He rains on the just and unjust equally. Christians die in plane crashes the same as anyone else. Little boys with cancer die whether the congregation prays or not. He pays absolutely no attention to prayers. Whether you pray or not, both unexpected good and bad things happen to people. Prayer may give people courage to do what needs to be done. It may encourage others to help. However, it won’t bend God’s ear. That is the Big Lie that churches have repeated so often that most people believe it.
Praying is like a rocking chair — it’ll give you something to do, but it won’t get you anywhere.
~ Gypsy Rose Lee (born: 1911-01-08 died: 1970-04-26 at age: 59)
Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.Here are two exceptions:
~ Anonymous
I can understand ignorant people believing in a god, but certainly not a loving caring god.People tell me they could not bear it if there were no God. I think this is rubbish. If there is a God, he is clearly a rather cruel or uncaring or ineffective bastard. There is not much hope. God made things the way they are. He must want them that way despite his protestations. How can things change with a great lunk like that in charge? There is no hope. So it is less pessimistic to assume their is no one in charge. It means things could get better. You are merely fighting chaos, not a deity, to improve man’s lot. For the atheist, knowing you definitely won’t be tortured for eternity after death for minor infractions of holy rules is extremely reassuring. I don’t know why Christian choose to dangle this sword of Damocles over their entire lives, and lie to themselves this obnoxious bastard is a great comfort.
~ Roedy (born: 1948-02-04 age: 61)
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous, proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
~ Dr. Richard Dawkins (born: 1941-03-26 age: 68), The God Delusion chapter 2
Humans are such cowards that they willingly allow themselves to be conned by those claiming death is not real and claiming to know the precise details of how the afterlife works.Several people have tried to persuade me to become Christian with a pragmatic argument that goes like this:
~ Roedy (born: 1948-02-04 age: 61)
Let’s assume that it is very unlikely that God exists, say 1%. You should still believe in Him anyway and follow Christian dogma for purely practical reasons. There are four cases:
I counter this argument by saying:
He who begins by loving Christianity better than truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or church better than Christianity, and end in loving himself better than all.
~ Samuel Taylor Coleridge (born: 1772 died: 1834 at age: 62) poet in his Aids To Reflection
Why should I fear death? If I am, death is not. If death is, I am not. Why should I fear that which cannot exist when I do?
~ Epicurus (born: 341 BC died: 270 BC at age: 71) Greek philosopher.
Faith is believing what you know isn’t so.If you follow the tenets of Christianity as it is practiced you would probably lead a more evil life than you would otherwise. You would be judgemental. You would discriminate against gays and probably blacks. You would lie to people about the best ways to cure disease. You would spread superstition and lies that are part of the Christian faith. You would indirectly kill children by blocking sex education about AIDS and birth control. For a more detailed list of the evils of Christianity, see the essay on why Christianity should be combatted. As an extreme example, Jeff Dahmer said grace before consuming his murder victims.
~ Mark Twain (born: 1835-11-30 died: 1910-04-21 at age: 74)
We long to situate ourselves on a benevolent, warm, furry, encompassing planet, created to provide our material needs, and constructed for our dominion and delectation. Unfortunately, this pipedream of succor from the realm of meaning (and therefore the magisterium of religion), imposes definite and unrealistic demands upon the factual construction of nature (under the magisterium of science). But nature, who is as she is, and who existed in earthly form for 4.5 billion years before we arrived to impose our interpretations upon her, greets us with sublime indifference and no preference for accommodating our yearnings.People often tell me that they just could not stand to be alive if there were no God. Roughly, if there were no God, they would invent one. All they are doing is warning me about their emotional biases. They know they can’t look on the matter objectively.
~ Dr. Stephen Jay Gould (born: 1941-09-10 died: 2002-05-02 at age: 60), Rocks of Ages
In Isaiah 45:7 God admits he creates the evil in the world. God then gave your father a brain tumor, fanned the hatred that boiled over into a gang rape of an eight year old Albanian girl, etc. If this is true, you are dealing with an immensely powerful, evil, cruel, heartless, arbitrary adversary. What hope do you have? In the story of Job, it is clear God does not even spare the just from his sadistic torments.
Would you not prefer to deal instead with nature? These negative happenings are essentially random events, but with some pattern behind them. There are laws physical or psychological. Eventually they may be understood and the evils averted. I certainly would prefer to deal with nature than a quixotic, slippery, tyrant God.
Beware the man of one book.
~ St. Thomas Aquinas (born: 1225 died: 1274-03-07 at age: 49)
The God of scripture is petty, cruel, jealous, inconsistent, prudish, partisan and foolish. He is fanatically concerned with controlling every thought and action of humans with a set of insanely arbitrary rules. He desperately wants to be loved. He is willing to bribe his subjects with unimaginable largess or torment after death, but refuses to offer even the tiniest foretaste to prove he is not bluffing. Earth and man are the center of His existence. He is oddly partial to the Jewish people at the expense of all others.
To me, that description sounds like a Roman Caesar — how a human behaves when given absolute power. The Old Testament was composed by people imagining what they thought God would say if He spoke. Unfortunately, they projected their failings onto Him. They described how they would behave if given absolute power. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely should not not apply to God, only to people.
In contrast, look at the universe. See the stupendous variety and stupendous quantity. Earth is just a tiny backwater planet on the edge of a backwater galaxy. There are trillions of stars and trillions of planets. Even on earth, the variety of animal and plant life is utterly amazing.
No prude created the sexually-daisy-chaining periwinkle.
The lust of the goat is the glory of God
~ William Blake (born: 1757 died: 1827-08-12 at age: 70)
If there is a creator, He is the consumate mathematician, physicist and biologist. He is not some narrow cleric afraid to look at the earth as it is.
The world is full of beauty and cruelty. Birds and fish are dazzling colours and patterns for no apparent reason other than exuberant beauty. The whole web of life is built on the principle that animals eat plants and kill and eat each other. This is the fundamental cruelty of our existence. A frog may have a million young, yet only two on average will survive to adulthood. This is true of all species, including humans. Does that seriously sound like the handiwork of an infinitely merciful deity?
God likes using small simple building blocks to construct a bewildering variety of forms. Consider atoms, DNA and cells, in particular brain cells.
If there is a God, He looks after the big picture. He has no more interest in individual humans than a child would have in the individual ants in his ant farm. He works with general principles and allows their consequences to work out logically.
God likes subtle asymmetry.
The bewildering intricate beauty of the Mandelbrot set springs forth from the simplest of mathematical equations. Even these lowly equations can help themselves from strutting like peacocks.
The misfortunes of human beings may be divided into two classes: First, those inflicted by the non-human environment and, second, those inflicted by other people. As mankind have progressed in knowledge and technique, the second class has become a continually increasing percentage of the total. In old times, famine, for example, was due to natural causes, and although people did their best to combat it, large numbers of them died of starvation. At the present moment large parts of the world are faced with the threat of famine, but although natural causes have contributed to the situation, the principal causes are human. For six years the civilized nations of the world devoted all their best energies to killing each other, and they find it difficult suddenly to switch over to keeping each other alive. Having destroyed harvests, dismantled agricultural machinery, and disorganized shipping, they find it no easy matter to relieve the shortage of crops in one place by means of a superabundance in another, as would easily be done if the economic system were in normal working order. As this illustration shows, it is now man that is man’s worst enemy. Nature, it is true, still sees to it that we are mortal, but with the progress in medicine it will become more and more common for people to live until they have had their fill of life. We are supposed to wish to live for ever and to look forward to the unending joys of heaven, of which, by miracle, the monotony will never grow stale. But in fact, if you question any candid person who is no longer young, he is very likely to tell you that, having tasted life in this world, he has no wish to begin again as a 'new boy' in another. For the future, therefore, it may be taken that much the most important evils that mankind have to consider are those which they inflict upon each other through stupidity or malevolence or both.
~ Bertrand Russell (born: 1872-05-18 died: 1970-02-02 at age: 97) Ideas That Have Harmed Mankind, from Unpopular Essays
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recommend book⇒Unpopular Essays | ||
| paperback | hardcover | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-415-11963-4 | 978-0-671-77600-8 | |
| publisher: | Routledge | ||
| published: | 1996-10-11 | ||
| by: | Bertrand Russell | ||
| Common sense essays condening war and Christian superstition. Russell was a stuffy old Englishman, and he had so much fun with it. | |||
Clearly toothaches, bad breath and fungus infections exist. How to explain that?
We presume that God created a Devil who then created these things. God gets off the hook by one level of indirection. That makes about as much sense as a Mafia don claiming innocence because he hired a hitman.
Perhaps it would be simpler to just say God created the best universe he could at the time. Perhaps it is impossible to create a logically consistent universe any better than this. This may be the best of all possible worlds.
We keep imagining the universe was created for the personal pleasure of man. We may well prove to be one of the least important species in the galaxy. From God’s point of view, we may well be a cancer on planet earth, destroying its carefully planned biological diversity, about as well-loved as rose blight.
The one thing we have discovered is the creation is logically consistent. Scripture is anything but. If there is a creator, the best way to understand Him is to study His creation.
Christians mean “Do you believe the Bible to be literally true?” when they ask “Do you believe in God?”. The questions are only loosely related. If a God did exist, there is almost no chance he would be anything like the one described in the bible.
Believing in God is like believing in imaginary seat belts. It gives you a false sense of security.None of these argument have any bearing on whether God actually exists, they are the pragmatic disadvantages of believing.
~ Roedy (born: 1948-02-04 age: 61)
A delusion that encourages belief where there is no evidence is asking for trouble. Disagreements between incompatible beliefs cannot be settled by reasoned argument because reasoned argument is drummed out of those trained in religion from the cradle. Instead, disagreements are settled by other means which, in extreme cases, inevitably become violent. Scientists disagree among themselves but they never fight over their disagreements. They argue about evidence or go out and seek new evidence. Much the same is true of philosophers, historians and literary critics.
~ Dr. Richard Dawkins (born: 1941-03-26 age: 68), 2005-04-25, Salon
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recommend book⇒Around The Year With Emmet Fox | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-06-250408-1 | 978-0-06-062870-3 | |
| publisher: | HarperOne | ||
| published: | 1992-04-10 | ||
| by: | Emmet Fox | ||
To me it would seem prudent to act normally during your experiment. Pay your bills. Look both ways before crossing the street. You don’t want to get yourself in too much trouble if God decides to ignore you for not having enough faith. On the other hand, you want to go at it seriously. After a failure, you will have even more evidence that God will ignore your pleas, and so it will be even harder to whip up the requisite faith for a second attempt.
I’d be interested in hearing from people who have performed this experiment. Tell me what happened and how you interpreted it.
I tried the experiment for the month of 2000-06. I spent three weeks taking ganciclovir IVs to clear up my nausea where nearly everything went wrong. At first, it looked like the treatment did not work. I met a strikingly handsome young guy who came over twice for massages. I worried less than usual, and it became clear that worry does little to improve most situations. There was nothing sufficiently out of the ordinary to require divine explanation. However, the following month something unusual did happen. A long standing friend asked if she could become my lover, and I accepted, even though she was of the "wrong " sex. Life has been unusually pleasant and eventful ever since.
I once heard the voice of God. It said "Vrrrrmmmmm." Unless it was just a lawn mower.
~ Age 11
Nearly everyone claims to have found God when they feel something inside intensely pleasant and very different from anything they have felt before. There are three problems relying totally on this approach.
I think more reliable signs would be how you had changed for the better or how your life had turned around. These effects may take years to become apparent. Other people would probably tell you they thought your life was touched by God.
And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence.Philosopher Blaise Pascal came up with three arguments, not for the existence of God, but for trying to talk yourself into believing there is a god, and that God behaves as described in the Christian Bible. The concern is not for truth, but for prudential practical benefit, basically that conning yourself is your best bet. These arguments are, according to InfidelGuy.com, the most commonly used by Christians debating with atheists. They are known collectively as Pascal’s Wager. The argument is essentially this:
~ Bertrand Russell (born: 1872-05-18 died: 1970-02-02 at age: 97)
Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.Of course you could construct a similar argument for believing in God as described in most of the religions in this list. Because there are so many, your odds of picking the right one, if any such thing exists, are quite remote.
~ Don Hirschberg
The immense majority of intellectually eminent men disbelieve in the Christian religion, but they conceal the fact in public, because they are afraid of losing their incomes.Pascal is doomed. Though he can pretend to believe, he can’t fool a God who knows his thoughts.
~ Bertrand Russell (born: 1872-05-18 died: 1970-02-02 at age: 97)
Pascal presumes you can’t settle the matter though reason. We now know far more about the question than did Pascal, and I think we know the probability of a God anything like the one in the Christian Bible is extremely remote. Almost nothing in the bible that can be tested has proved true. Further the consequences of believing in the bogus Christian God are far more serious than Pascal imagined. For example, if you trust in this Christian God, you are not capable of biology or geology. You will be a bigot. Think of how difficult life would be for a medieval peasant, believing in goblins, witches and devils teleported to modern day. Every nutty incorrect idea you hold hampers your ability to function.
Pascal also presumes God is terribly interested in whether you believe, not how you behave. A fair God would be far more concerned with your behaviour than your belief in some far fetched myth. What is so wicked about rejecting what appears to be false?
The Riddle of Epicurus
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
~ Epicurus (born: 341 BC died: 270 BC at age: 71)
My friend Darwin Bedford, the atheist messiah, at atheists.net looks at it this way:
From a biological point of view, there are lots of different theories about why we have this extraordinary predisposition to believe in supernatural things. One suggestion is that the child mind is, for very good Darwinian reasons, susceptible to infection the same way a computer is. In order to be useful, a computer has to be programmable, to obey whatever it’s told to do. That automatically makes it vulnerable to computer viruses, which are programs that say, “Spread me, copy me, pass me on.” Once a viral program gets started, there is nothing to stop it.Similarly, the child brain is preprogrammed by natural selection to obey and believe what parents and other adults tell it. In general, it’s a good thing that child brains should be susceptible to being taught what to do and what to believe by adults. But this necessarily carries the down side that bad ideas, useless ideas, waste of time ideas like rain dances and other religious customs, will also be passed down the generations. The child brain is very susceptible to this kind of infection. And it also spreads sideways by cross infection when a charismatic preacher goes around infecting new minds that were previously uninfected.
~ Dr. Richard Dawkins (born: 1941-03-26 age: 68), 2005-04-25, Salon
Man is certainly stark mad; he cannot make a flea, and yet he will be making gods by dozens.As of 2007-01-20 here are my best estimates of probability of various assertions around the existence of god.
~ Michel Eyquem de Montaigne (born: 1533 died: 1592 at age: 59)
| Estimates of the Probability of the Existence of God | ||
|---|---|---|
| Probability | Assertion | Notes |
| 0.00001% | That the bible was composed by God. | The bible is of such inferior quality, it could not possibly have flowed from the pen something supposedly perfect and all-knowing. Other holy books get roughly the same rating with the Qur’an getting a few extra points because of the claim its poetry is of superhuman quality, a claim I cannot verify. |
| 0.0001% | Something with an IQ above a moron intelligently designs each new species. | The world would be astonished if it knew how great a proportion of its brightest ornaments, of those distinguished even in popular estimation for wisdom and virtue, are complete sceptics in religion.Evolution itself is a problem solving process with an IQ of about 1. It is bungling slow process. If you look closely at life, it is an endless series of mindless tiny hacks, with no sign of brilliant design or forethought. The end result can be impressive, but that is only because evolution is exceedingly patient at searching for better designs, not intelligent in designing them. The big creationist lie is the that the end result of evolution is random, like a perfect watch forming from an explosion in a the watchmaker’s shop. The process is anything but random. Evolution might be likened to a retarded blind watchmaker who had no understanding of how watches work, who just kept trying various combinations of gears over millenia to find counterfeit watch designs that would sell better. The intelligence lay all in his customers’ intelligent discrimination refusing to buy the crummiest designs. Eventually his designs would actually work, and would even continue to slowly improve. |
| 0.05% | God talks to people | When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion.When people such as George W. Bush hear voices in their head, they are so conceited that they imagine these internal voices are the creator of the universe Himself are taking time out for a consultation. The messages themselves are invariably silly or deranged and reveal nothing only God Himself would know. Further John 5:37 makes clear Jehovah does not talk to individual people. This of course contradicts other parts of the bible where He reputedly does. |
| 0.01% | Presuming there is a God, that the old Testament roughly expresses God’s wishes. | The essential values of the old testament are intolerance, animal sacrifice and smiting enemies. God is supposedly just, kind and all-knowing. He would not take sides in petty battles. |
| 1% | God, or some other mysterious process, is like a cosmic Santa Claus watching you at all times and keeping a record of your every transgression. | This is just a story told to older children to help make them feel frightened about masturbating or sex play. If God were all that interested in the behaviour of his individual creatures he would make his authority and the desired behaviours clear, rather than acting through various con men. He would intervene, chastise and explain at many points in a life rather than waiting until death. To learn, you need immediate feedback. |
| 2% | That your consciousness keeps on experiencing something for years after you die. | You might be a ghost, reincarnate, live in some other dimensional heaven/hell… |
| 2% | Something with an IQ above a moron intelligently designed the basic underpinnings of reality, e.g. the laws of quantum mechanics, that there are such things as distance, time and mass and chose the basic constants. | The way basic reality works on a subatomic level is undeniably mathematically elegant and highly convenient for life. If you presume we are not the only universe, there may be vast numbers of them, mostly uninteresting. Imagine being an ancient Hawaiian. You would presume that God had made the climate perfect for your benefit, food abundant for your benefit etc. Only after you travelled the globe would you discover this was not universally true. There was no universal beneficence making the climate temperate. You just lucked out on a nice spot. |
| 20% | Presuming there is a God, the New Testament roughly expresses God’s wishes. | The essential values of the new testament are kindness, non-violence,
tolerance, restraint in use of power and faith without evidence. These values (except
faith) are geared to the long term sustainability of the human species. Missing
is any sort of ecological awareness. The New Testament is full of superstition
which just divides Christians and non-Christians further.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. |
| 60% | That under some circumstances your consciousness has experiences even when there is no measurable brain activity. | This personally has never happened to me. When I was under anaesthesis, I awoke as if no time at all had passed. It is possible trauma causes memories of events to be directly laid down that were never actually never experienced, not even in imagination. But that would not account for sensory information gleaned while there was no brain activity. |
| 75% | That there is some unknown mechanism that sporadically creates highly improbable co-incidences in our lives. | This is most probably some weak form of ESP that unconsciously makes unconscious arrangements with other people. It may be an advanced species playing tricks on us, or playing with us. |
| 99.999% | That it is possible to have an out of body experience while you are still alive. | This has happened to me and to several of my friends. I make no claim other that this is how it appears to the observer. It may just be some sort of waking dream. |
Believing would be easier if God would show himself by depositing a million dollars in a Swiss bank account in my name.When someone says “Do you believe in God” he is conflating all these questions. When you break them out, and answer with probabilities rather than with absolute certainty, we may discover more patterns of agreement than at first appears. Have fun with the list. Compare your probabilty estimates with others as a jumping off point for discussion.
~ Woody Allen (born: 1935-12-01 age: 73)
The old misconceptions that people mistook as evidence for the existence of God no longer hold. We have discovered the universe is quite capable of functioning without the constant tinkering of a deity. We have discovered even complex creatures like elephants arise by natural processes of chemistry and biology. They don’t require an intelligent designer. They came into being by a mindless laborious genetic process of trial and error carried out by busy little DNA molecules.
I cannot believe God created parasites to torture small children.
~ Sir David Attenborough (born: 1926-05-08 age: 83)
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.I find Stephen Robert’s quotation one of the strongest arguments against Christianity, but oddly Christians don’t find it in the least convincing. To a mathematician, inconsistency is an anathema. Why believe in some gods but not others? The same arguments for existence apply equally to all gods. But inconsistency does not bother Christians in the least. Any argument against Ganesh, is also an argument against Jehovah. Why do Christians have no problem accepting an argument when it refutes the existence of Ganesh, but reject the exact same argument when applied to refute Jehovah? Why do Christians have no problem accepting an argument for the existence of Jehovah, but reject the exact same argument when applied to proving the existence of Ganesh? How can Christians be so sure theirs is the best description of god when they carefully insulate themselves from even hearing about any other? That strikes me as insane.
~ Stephen F. Roberts (born: 1967 age: 42)
I dismiss Ganesh and Jehovah for the same reason: there is no evidence for either. Christians hold Jehovah in such high esteem, they think I must be kidding. They can’t conceive of me deciding Jehovah is preposterous with the same lack of angst that I decided Ganesh is preposterous. It is difficult only if you have been conned during infancy that Jehovah (or Ganesh) will get you if you are naughty.
[I was lucky. The BS I was fed was that elves were spying on me, and were I naughty, I would get a lump of coal in my stocking at Christmas. I scoured every hiding place in my house for elves and decided my mother was putting me on. Happily, my mother did not beat me for my refusal to believe her story.]
The main reason Christians believe their twaddle is they can’t escape the fear they just might be hideously punished for failing to do so. It has almost nothing to do with logical probability. It has to do with the severity of the punishment. The feared punishment is so hideous, it is not worth the risk no matter how unlikely. This primal fear of the bogey-man god is dressed up for philosophers as Pascal’s Wager.
Islam is thus even more entrapping than Christianity. It promises even more frightening punishments. I had nightmares for months after reading the Qur’an.
Those who reject
Our Signs, We shall soon
Cast into the Fire;
As often as their skins
Are roasted through,
We shall change them
For fresh skins,
That they may taste
The Penalty: for Allah
Is Exalted in Power: Wise.
~ The Qur’an (born: 610 AD age: 1399) Surah Al Nisa 4:56
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recommend DVD⇒The God Who Wasn’t There | ||||||||||||||||
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| This movie debunks Christianity by showing how all parts of the Jesus legend were borrowed from earlier religions, and that even the church fathers admitted that. It also shows how early Christian writers were not talking about a literal historical person. Finally it shows how the Bible is at odds in many crucial places with established history. See the TheGodMovie.com website for a variety of clips. | |||||||||||||||||
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recommend book⇒The Secular Bible: Why Nonbelievers Must Take Religion Seriously | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-521-61824-3 | |
| publisher: | Cambridge University Press | |
| published: | 2005-09-05 | |
| by: | Jacques Berlinerblau | |
| An introduction to biblical scholarship for nonbelievers. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Making of the Fittest | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-393-06163-5 | |
| publisher: | W. W. Norton | |
| published: | 2006-10-09 | |
| by: | Sean B. Carroll | |
| We now have DNA analysis to track the history over millions of years of how species evolved. This book explains this new tool. If somebody wants to debunk evolution, they should at least know what it is, and why today’s scientists have such strong confidence it in. | ||
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recommend book⇒Why Evolution is True | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-670-02053-9 | B001QEQRJW | |
| publisher: | Viking Adult | ||
| published: | 2009-01-22 | ||
| by: | Jerry A. Coyne | ||
| The book gets glowing reviews from famous scientists such as E.O. Wilson and Richard Dawkins. It reviews the evidence for evolution and explains the dishonesty in phrases such as “evolution is only a theory”. | |||
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recommend book⇒Astonishing Hypothesis: The Scientific Search for the Soul | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-684-80158-2 | |
| publisher: | Scribner | |
| published: | 1995-07-01 | |
| by: | Francis Crick | |
| Crick won the Nobel prize as co-discoverer with James Watson for the discovery of DNA. In this book, Crick tackles the intractable question, “what is consciousness”. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Ancestor’s Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-618-00583-3 | |
| publisher: | Houghton Mifflin | |
| published: | 2004-10-27 | |
| by: | Richard Dawkins | |
| Tracing your ancestry all the way back to the origin of life. Read the first chapter. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-393-31570-7 | |
| publisher: | W. W. Norton | |
| published: | 1996-09-19 | |
| by: | Richard Dawkins | |
| The title refers to the Rev. William Paley’s 1802 work, Natural Theology, which argued that just as finding a watch would lead you to conclude that a watchmaker must exist, the complexity of living organisms proves that a Creator exists. Dawkins argues that all appearances to the contrary, the only watchmakers in nature are the blind forces of physics, albeit deployed in a very special way. Natural selection is an anti-chance process, which gradually builds up complexity, step by tiny step. The end product of this ratcheting process is an eye, or a heart, or a brain — a device whose improbable complexity is utterly baffling until you spot the gentle ramp that leads up to it. Read the first chapter. | ||
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recommend book⇒Climbing Mount Improbable | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-393-03930-6 | |
| publisher: | W. W. Norton | |
| published: | 1996-09 | |
| by: | Richard Dawkins | |
| Explains how complex structures such as the eye can evolve without intelligent design. Read the first chapter. | ||
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recommend book⇒Devil’s Chaplain: Reflections on Hope, Lies, Science, and Love | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-618-48539-0 | |
| publisher: | Mariner | |
| published: | 2004-10-27 | |
| by: | Richard Dawkins | |
| A miscellaneous collection of essays. | ||
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recommend book⇒The God Delusion | |||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-618-91824-9 | 978-0-618-68000-9 | B000SEHG5U | |
| publisher: | Houghton Mifflin | |||
| published: | 2006-09-18 | |||
| by: | Richard Dawkins | |||
| This might be looked on as the founding document for the atheists’ lib movement. This is a gloves-off attack on religion and fanaticism. It ridicules Christianity and Islam. He argues that atheism provides a sounder foundation for morality. “The God Delusion is smart, compassionate, and true… If this book doesn’t change the world, we’re all screwed.” ~ Penn & Teller. Read the first chapter. | ||||
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recommend book⇒The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-1-4165-9478-9 | |
| publisher: | Free Press Mifflin | |
| published: | 2009-09-22 | |
| by: | Richard Dawkins | |
| This not only covers the evidence for evolution, he takes aims at the bogus claims of the religious fundamentalists that evolution is flawed. The evidence includes fossils, the genetic code of various species and the distribution of animals on the planet. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Selfish Gene | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-19-286092-7 | 978-0-19-929114-4 | |
| publisher: | Oxford University Press | ||
| published: | 1990-10-25 | ||
| by: | Richard Dawkins | ||
| Explanation of how individual genes compete for survival, giving rise to the great complexity you see in plants and animals. Read first chapter. | |||
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recommend book⇒Unweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-618-05673-6 | |
| publisher: | Mariner | |
| published: | 2000-04-05 | |
| by: | Richard Dawkins | |
| He shows that science has even more poetry and appreciation for the universe than religion. Read the first chapter. | ||
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recommend book⇒Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-14-303833-7 | 978-0-670-03472-7 | |
| publisher: | Viking | ||
| published: | 2006-02-02 | ||
| by: | Daniel C. Dennett | ||
| He studies why humans have evolved religion, and its maleficent role. He explores how ideas from prehistoric times have been passed down through the generations to haunt us today. | |||
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recommend book⇒Consciousness Explained | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-14-012867-3 | |
| publisher: | Penguin | |
| published: | 1993-06-24 | |
| by: | Daniel C. Dennett | |
| An explanation that consciousness is like cultural software running on the parallel computing power of the brain. | ||
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recommend book⇒Darwin’s Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-684-82471-0 | |
| publisher: | Simon & Schuster | |
| published: | 1996-06-12 | |
| by: | Daniel C. Dennett | |
| A layman’s description of Darwin’s theory of evolution, and defense against the common attacks on it. | ||
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recommend book⇒Freedom Evolves | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-14-028389-1 | |
| publisher: | Penguin | |
| published: | 2004-02-26 | |
| by: | Daniel C. Dennett | |
| In this book he tackles the problem of the soul and free will. He argues that there is indeed such a thing as free will, but it “is not a preexisting feature of our existence, like the law of gravity.” | ||
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recommend book⇒Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-06-073817-4 | |
| publisher: | HarperOne | |
| published: | 2005-11-01 | |
| by: | Bart D. Ehrman | |
| Ehrman started out as a biblical literalist, and through scholarship became a skeptic. He documents the ample evidence of human fallibility and ecclesiastical politics in holy writ. To assess how ignorant or theologically manipulative scribes may have changed the biblical text, modern scholars have developed procedures for comparing diverging texts. And in language accessible to nonspecialists, Ehrman explains these procedures and their results. | ||
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recommend book⇒Creationism’s Trojan Horse: The Wedge of Intelligent Design | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-19-515742-0 | |
| publisher: | Oxford University Press | |
| published: | 2003-12-12 | |
| by: | Barbara Forrest, Paul R. Gross | |
| The authors explain why they wrote the book this way. Religious interference in American science and science education is an old story. But intelligent design proponents’ cultivation of support for efforts to eliminate evolution from public school science, or to disparage it, and to secure recognition of creationists’ claims of scientific legitimacy, are today enjoying unprecedented, nationwide success. For the first time, such claims seem to many lay observers to have become respectable. In fact, however, they are no more respectable as scholarly inquiry, or specifically as biological science, than were their discredited “creation science” predecessors. Unfortunately, this is not widely understood. Nor is the seamless continuity of “Intelligent Design Theory” with other recognized forms of creationism. Having examined in detail claims made by members of the “Wedge” we saw it as our professional and civic obligation to scholarship and science to prepare a fully documented account of their anti-evolution agenda. We came to understand that, for the well-being of science and science education, the seamless continuity of intelligent design and traditional creationism must be demonstrated for our colleagues and the knowledgeable public. The narrowness of Wedge strategists’ religious aims, which do not reflect the values of the broader, more tolerant religious community, must be exposed, as must Intelligent Design’s pervasively sham methods of inquiry. People who value science and the benefits of life in an enlightened society must be alerted to the Wedge’s political, cultural, and religious ambitions. | ||
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recommend book⇒Unauthorized Version: Truth and Fiction in the Bible | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-679-74406-1 | |
| publisher: | Vintage | |
| published: | 1993-06-01 | |
| by: | Robin Lane Fox | |
| Fox explores the bible as a historian, explaining what is known to be true and false. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Scandalous Gospel of Jesus: What’s So Good About the Good News? | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-06-000073-8 | B000W914NG | |
| publisher: | HarperOne | ||
| published: | 2007-11-06 | ||
| by: | Peter J. Gomes | ||
| Written by a Christian preacher who berates the church for teaching the worship of Jesus, rather than teaching his message. Jesus was far more concerned about his message than himself. He suggests if Jesus were to come back, he would want to hang out with society’s outcasts, just as he did back then, including gays. | |||
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recommend book⇒The Panda’s Thumb: More Reflections in Natural History | |
| paperback | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-393-30819-8 | |
| publisher: | W. W. Norton | |
| published: | 1992-08 | |
| by: | Stephen Jay Gould | |
| Gould points out all manner of utterly inept designs in nature. Unlike a celestial designer, natural selection always has to work by gently modifying the “previous model”. This leads to some clumsy bailingwire solutions. One of the examples is the light sensitive cells in your eye are or the wrong side of the retina, away from the light. Seriously, do you think an reputedly infinitely intelligent designer would make a blunder that profound? Other species got it right, and as a result have vastly superior vision to us. | ||
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recommend book⇒Rocks of Ages : Science and Religion in the Fullness of Life | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-345-45040-1 | |
| publisher: | Ballantine | |
| published: | 2002-02-26 | |
| by: | Stephen Jay Gould | |
| I don’t recommend this book, though I recommend Mr. Gould’s other books on the topic of evolution. This book consists of a rather limp suggestion that the conflict between religion and science can be avoided if religion will butt out of matters of fact and science butts out of matters of ethics. I find this a foolish truce. Religion should not be left to deal with ethics. It has only inept tools — magic, myth, superstition and tradition. The study of ethics would do much better if augmented with comparative religion, anthropology, law, psychology, Darwinian evolution and experiment. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Pagan Christ: recovering the lost light | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-88762-145-1 | |
| publisher: | Thomas Allen Publishers | |
| published: | 2004 | |
| by: | Tom Harpur | |
| Tom Harpur is an Anglican theologian. He presents the evidence that Christianity is plagiarized from earlier religions and has no historical basis. The Jesus story is intended to be taken as allegory, not literally. The Jesus cult developed over time, starting with a set of aphorisms, and gradually adding details of Jesus’ life, much the way the story of Superman was elaborated. This suggests there was no historical Jesus. amazon.ca is the site mostly likely to have the book in stock since Harpur is a well-known Canadian theologian. You can see a summary on DVD | ||
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recommend book⇒Letter to a Christian Nation | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-307-26577-7 | |
| publisher: | Knopf | |
| published: | 2006-09-19 | |
| by: | Sam Harris | |
| This is a passionate argument for separation of church and state. Sam Harris fearlessly describes a moral and intellectual emergency precipitated by religious fantasies — misguided beliefs that create suffering, that rationalize violence, that have endangered our nation and our future. His argument for the morality, the honesty, and the humility of atheism is galvanizing. It is a relief that someone has spoken so frankly, with such passion yet such rationality | ||
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recommend book⇒The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-393-32765-6 | |
| publisher: | W. W. Norton | |
| published: | 2005-10-10 | |
| by: | Sam Harris | |
| Harris argues that in the presence of weapons of mass destruction, we can no longer expect to survive our religious differences indefinitely. Moderation in religion poses considerable dangers of its own: as the accommodation we have made to religious faith in our society now blinds us to the role that faith plays in perpetuating human conflict. Read more about the book at the SamHarris.org website. | ||
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recommend book⇒Mythology’s Last Gods, Yahweh and Jesus | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-87975-742-7 | |
| publisher: | Prometheus | |
| published: | 1992-06 | |
| by: | William Harwood | |
| Bible scholars have discovered all manner of interesting things over the centuries, but they immediately hid most of it away from the lay people on the grounds it would harm their faith. Harwood brings all this interesting material to light. | ||
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recommend book⇒American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-7432-8443-1 | |
| publisher: | Free Press | |
| published: | 2007-01-09 | |
| by: | Chris Hedges | |
| This about how Dominionists are trying to destroy scientific debate by insisting opinions like Creationism be treated equally with facts like evolution. They twist the bible to support bigotry, homophobia and persecution of intellectuals. The movement’s call to dismantle the wall between church and state and the intolerance it preaches against all who do not conform to its warped vision of a Christian America are pumped into tens of millions of American homes through Christian television and radio stations, as well as reinforced through the curriculum in Christian schools. They lie about their ability to “cure” same sex attraction. | ||
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recommend book⇒God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything | |||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-446-69796-5 | 978-0-446-57980-3 | B000QUCO4Y | |
| publisher: | Twelve Books | |||
| published: | 2007-05-01 | |||
| by: | Christopher Hitchens | |||
| This is a historical look at Christianity and Islam. Hitchens shows why he believes religion to be a consequence of our evolutionary childhood, why he believes it should not be considered a source of morality and all the ways in which it has demonstrated its tendency to foster totalitarian malevolence. Hitchens is a great wit, however he is over the top in his fear of Islam. He is a Bush-supporting right winger who believes the Bush conspiracy theory of 9/11 and who thinks the solution is to kill all the Muslims. Other than that bit of nuttiness, he is entertaining and intelligent. It is fun to watch one so gullible accuse Christians of gullibility. Read the first chapter. | ||||
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recommend book⇒Christianity: The Ultimate Urban Legend | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-1-4120-8012-5 | |
| publisher: | Trafford Publishing | |
| published: | 2006-06-30 | |
| by: | Paul John | |
| This is a self-published Trafford book about inconsistencies in the bible. It is book 2 in a trilogy. This book covers the time period from Herod the Great’s death through the early 2nd century. He goes into the discrepancies between Paul’s and Jesus’s teachings. Paul John was raised as a Christian then came to examine his faith in adulthood. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Genesis of Misconception | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-1-4120-3481-4 | |
| publisher: | Trafford Publishing | |
| published: | 2006-07-06 | |
| by: | Paul John | |
| This is a self-published Trafford book about inconsistencies in the bible, in particular references to technologies that had not been invented at the time the story allegedly took place. It is book 1 in a trilogy. One of his assertions is that much of the history described in the Bible was actually about Judah, not Israel. Paul John was raised as a Christian then came to examine his faith in adulthood. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Plausibility of Life: Resolving Darwin’s Dilemma | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-300-10865-1 | |
| publisher: | Yale University Press | |
| published: | 2005-10-19 | |
| by: | Marc W. Kirschner and John C. Gerhart | |
| This is a book that takes pot shots at the crack pot “theory” of intelligent design, pointing out how when you look clearly at the creationist arguments, such as “irreducible complexity” they actually argue for evolution. They explain how the metabolic building blocks of life functions can be rearranged and linked in novel ways with less chance of fatal variations than random mutation of DNA would allow. They explain why there are periods of deep conservation with almost no change following an evolutionary ferment. | ||
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recommend book⇒Atheist Manifesto: The Case Against Christianity, Judaism, and Islam | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-1-55970-820-3 | |
| publisher: | Arcade Publishing | |
| published: | 2007-01-10 | |
| by: | Michel Onfray | |
| This is not a book aimed at Christians, but at fellow atheists. He deconstructs the myth of Jesus and how Christianity came to be the world’s biggest religion and how some of it’s teachings (especially those of Paul) may have come to be. Without Emperor Constantine, Christianity would have died or been an obscure sect. It explains the evils of monotheism. It is not so much about why there is no god as what evil people get up to in the name of god. | ||
{The God Virus by Darrel Ray}
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recommend book⇒The God Virus: How religion infects our lives and culture | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-9709505-1-2 | |
| publisher: | IPC Press | |
| published: | 2009-01-06 | |
| by: | Darrel W. Ray | |
Once infected, the individual [infected with a god virus] cannot detect major contradictions in his beliefs and behavior. Belief systems become self-evident to him, and no amount of logical discourse will move him from his belief. If a Mormon and Catholic were to debate the merits of their respective religions, neither could see his own inconsistencies and logical fallacies, but would see the other’s quite clearly.The God Virus goes beyond analogy, offering a fascinating and detailed look at the wiggling, maddening virus itself how it moves, how it survives, and how and why it continues to thrive. One of the interesting discussions in the book is using the virus metaphor to explain why fundamentalists are as resistant to other religions as they are to atheism. Like a virus, a religion ruthlessly manipulates its hosts for its own ends. There is a website for the book. You can read the first two chapters on-line. The God Virus: How religion infects our lives and culture The God Virus: part 3 hypnosis The God Virus: part 4 the guilt cycle Darrel Ray holds a BA in sociology, an MA in religion, and an Ed.D. in psychology. Ed.D. means Doctor of Education. It is a doctorate in psychology equal to a Ph.D. or an Psy.D. degree from Vanderbilt University. | ||
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recommend book⇒Battle For the Mind, A Physiology of Conversion and Brainwashing | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-1-883536-06-0 | |
| publisher: | Malor Books | |
| published: | 1997-08 | |
| by: | William Walters Sargant | |
| I first read this book as a teenager. It explains how brainwashing works and how various groups use it. I was shocked back then to discover how close the techniques of the POW camps and the religious cults were to the socially acceptable practice of boot camp to rebuild army recruits into obedient soldiers. | ||
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recommend book⇒Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-8050-7089-7 | 978-1-56731-359-8 | |
| publisher: | Holt | ||
| published: | 2002-09-01 | ||
| by: | Michael Shermer | ||
The title is a bit of a misnomer. It is mostly about the kooky things people believe and why those beliefs are not true, not why people beleve them. People believe in quantum mechanics and relativity, which are far weirder than any alien abduction or holocoust denial. That is not what the book is about. It about people believing in things for which there is almost no evidence and for which there is a ton of counter-evidence. It covers Holocaust denial and creationism in considerable detail, and has chapters on abductions, Satanism, Afrocentrism, near-death experiences, Ayn Randian positivism, and psychics. His five reasons people hold crank beliefs are:
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recommend book⇒Why Darwin Matters : The Case Against Intelligent Design | |||
| paperback | hardcover | kindle | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-8050-8306-4 | 978-0-8050-8121-3 | B001J2Y0VI | |
| publisher: | Holt | |||
| published: | 2007-07-25 | |||
| by: | Michael Shermer | |||
| It explains why intelligent design is both bad science and poor religion. Read the first chapter. | ||||
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recommend book⇒Your Inner Fish: A Journey into the 3.5-Billion-Year History of the Human Body | |||
| paperback | hardcover | kindle | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-307-27745-9 | 978-0-375-42447-2 | B0010SKTRA | |
| publisher: | Vintage | |||
| published: | 2009-01-06 | |||
| by: | Neil Shubin | |||
| Preorder, not yet published. Recommended by Richard Dawkins. | ||||
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recommend book⇒God, the Failed Hypothesis: How Science Shows That God Does Not Exist | |
| hardcover | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-1-59102-481-1 | |
| publisher: | Prometheus Books | |
| published: | 2007-01-25 | |
| by: | Victor J. Stenger | |
| This is not just evidence that details in various holy books are wrong. This evidence that none of the proposed 10,000 gods exist, either creators, supervisors or interveners. Physicist Victor J. Stenger contends that, if God exists, some evidence for this existence should be detectable by scientific means, especially considering the central role that God is alleged to play in the operation of the universe and the lives of humans. Treating the traditional God concept, as conventionally presented in the Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions, like any other scientific hypothesis, Stenger examines all of the claims made for God’s existence. He considers the latest Intelligent Design arguments as evidence of God’s influence in biology. He looks at human behaviour for evidence of immaterial souls and the possible effects of prayer. He discusses the findings of physics and astronomy in weighing the suggestions that the universe is the work of a creator and that humans are God’s special creation. After evaluating all the scientific evidence, Stenger concludes that beyond a reasonable doubt the universe and life appear exactly as we might expect if there were no God. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Jesus Sayings: A Quest for the Authentic Teachings | |
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-88784-212-2 | |
| publisher: | Anansi | |
| published: | 2008-02-28 | |
| by: | Rex Weyler | |
| In the early days of Christianity there were dozens of gospels. The church selected which versions it wanted to promote and burned the rest. However, some of these documents survived over a thousand years hidden in caves, graves or buried in the sand. Archaelogists have uncovered many of these documents which give a quite different picture of early Christianity from the official church history. Jesus never claimed divinity, and neither did his followers claim it for him. There was no resurrection. Jesus taught that if his followers were compassionate it would generate the spirit of his presence. There was nothing at all about his physical return. These embellishments were added much later. | ||
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recommend book⇒The Evolution of God | ||
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| ISBN13: | 978-0-316-73491-2 | B002AKPEHW | |
| publisher: | Little, Brown | ||
| published: | 2009-06-08 | ||
| by: | Robert Wright | ||
| Wright grew up as a born-again Christian and creationist, then gradually relaxed some of his fundamentalist thinking to study the history of how the notions of God evolved. He discovered that Christianity was not formed all of a piece, but borrowed from other religions over time. He came to the conclusion that what we call God is actually a human construction. He likens this to a crude approximation to the truth that a diagram of spinning electrons has to the mind-boggling mathematics of quantum mechanics, a necessary fiction given the limitations of the human mind. Wright is a bit a sucky apologist for religion, and tries to wrap his fundamentalist notions of rigid morality in scientific objective dress. | |||