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There are 60,000 gods. They all seem pretty much the same. Each one focuses on a fairly narrow geographical region. I would not have expected that if one were a real god:
- A real god would have started talking to humans as soon as they developed language.
- He would talk to all humans in all places and all times.
- His message would be consistent.
- His message would have something about it to let you know it was genuine, not just some jerkass human pretending to be god.
None of this happened. Christians pick Jehovah out of all the god choices just because he is the one their parents picked and brainwashed them into worshiping. Christians have never read anything about the other god choices, but they are absolutely sure Jehovah is valid and all the others are not. There is nothing special about Jehovah at all. Singling out Jehovah as the only real god makes no sense rationally.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the cruelest Christian teachings is that you should have as many children as possible and brain wash them into the church teachings. You are supposed to turn your back on all the orphans with no one to care for them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Abraham is a key founder of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He suffered from schizophrenia and heard voices commanding him to kill his son Isaac. He plotted to tie up his son, slit his throat and set fire him as an offering to the god Jehovah, treating him as a sacrificial bull. He was just about to slit his son’s throat, when the voices told him to desist. He had no evidence whatsoever that any of these voices were god. All three of these religions revere Abraham’s behaviour as the highest good. Nothing good can come from a religion founded on such madness. Today we would incarcerate Abraham in an institution for the criminally insane.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine you read in the Internet news a man had slit his son’s throat, and killed him. The man explained he did it because a disembodied voice told him to. Would you assume the man was mentally ill? Of course. Yet millions of Christians assure me this man was sane, and truly was obeying Jehovah, sacrificing Isaac without his consent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In Canada, there is a crime indignity to a body. I have noticed Canadians and Americans get far more outraged by assaults on a dead body than on a live one. For example, dragging a body behind a truck is much more newsworthy than dragging a living person behind a truck. This is irrational. A body is for all practical purposes just a hunk of decomposing meat. It is just superstition that makes people treat it with reverence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Abraham Lincoln, Unfit for Office
Abraham Lincoln never attended church in his entire life. That would be sufficient to keep him from running for office today.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Abraham Was Criminally Insane
If Abraham had tried to murder his son today, there would be no question. He would be locked up as criminally insane. There would be no question that the demonic voices commanding him were not a god but his psychotic delusions. Why then so do many people treat Abraham himself as a saint? Founding your religion on a psychotic child killer is bound to lead to serious trouble.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Absence of Evidence
Absence of evidence is not proof of absence, but it is evidence of absence. For example, as every year passes without any evidence of sasquatches, e.g. a corpse, bones, DNA (Deoxyribonucleic Acid), it becomes ever more sure sasquatches do not exist. Ditto for gods.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Our God Is A Mighty God~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Our God Is An Absent God,
Nostalgic for hellfire fears —
Hasn’t Been Around For Years.
Absent Minded Christians
If Jesus’s resurrection were genuine, surely the tomb would be a target of pilgrimages and extreme veneration. The Buddhists still have the Bodhi tree. Muslims have the leaping off spot to heaven. Yet Christians lost track of where the tomb was. They also lost track of the 10 commandments. Even though Moses allegedly smashed them in a fit of pique, the fragments should still be holy. They lost track of the Ark of the Covenant. They lost track of Jesus’s birthplace. The most likely explanation is these are all mythological.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evangelists claim they speak absolute indisputable truth. But that is not so. Not even evangelists of the same sect agree. They are all just making it up and trying to pass it off as god’s word. They are masquerading as god’s anointed agent to power trip and con people out of money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Million of years of evolution has figured out ways to subvert the most earnest attempts at abstinence. You need a plan B — condoms or birth control.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I am not prepared to debate the existence of god in the abstract. The definition keeps slithering like an eel slathered in KY jelly. Pick the existence of a particular god, say Jehovah or Ganesh, then absurdity becomes ever so much more apparent. Besides, the Christians don’t really care about the existence of any god by Jehovah.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The human mind is capable of abstract thought, thinking about things that have no correspondence in the physical world, such as mathematics, computer programming and, unfortunately, religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Absurd Demand For Respect
Jews, Christians and Muslims demanding that others respect their customs and superstitions is as ridiculous as Morris dancers doing so.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Jews/Christians/Muslims are a bit like children who got carried away bragging about their fathers and gods. They claim their god is simultaneously omnipotent, omniscient and compassionate. How could it be there still be such suffering, injustice and cruelty on earth? God either does not care, does not notice or cannot rectify the problem.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
All religions are absurd. The absurdity of a religion is immediately apparent to anyone who does not subscribe to it, but is invisible to a believer who has been told over and over it is true. For example:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- In Hinduism, the favourite god in the Mumbai region is a mama’s boy elephant named Ganesh.
- In Hinduism, Krishna, one of the A-list Gods, once came to earth and seduced a group of married gopis (female milk maids). He spent all night simultaneously making love to each one the way she most preferred. In modern times men dress up as gopis hoping to trick Krishna into giving them a similar experience.
- In Islam, the prophet was taken to heaven on the back of a magic horse.
- In Mormonism, the prophet pretended to translate hieroglyphics. He got away with it at the time because nobody in the Americas knew how.
- In Mormonism, the prophet pretended to translate from golden plates, that he refused to let anyone see, by putting his head into a hat to exclude any light.
- In Christianity, a man lived inside a whale without oxygen for three days.
- In Christianity, a man managed to collect living samples of two of every species, even from the Americas and Australia which nobody had ever visited or even heard of.
- In Christianity, there was a global flood, caused by the magical appearance of sufficient water to drown Mount Everest, then its magic disappearance, with not a trace of that monumental weight of water left in the geological record.
Abused Child Syndrome
It is odd the way Christians and Muslims turn to a god the worse God/circumstances treats them. It reminds me of the way abused children protest that their parents treat them well, perhaps hoping saying so will make it so, or that such lies will mollify the tyrant parent, or perhaps to hide their shame at having such a cruel parent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Job, like a battered wife who refuses to leave her husband, was in an abusive relationship with Jehovah.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If it were revealed that a political candidate believed he had been abducted by aliens, TV pundits would rag him mercilessly. Yet if it were revealed he harboured even more improbable delusions such as talking snakes, that there was no need to preserve the forests because a dead man would soon miraculously restore them, that geologists had it all wrong because the earth was only 10,000 years old… oddly those same pundits would solemnly respect his beliefs. The moral of the story is, if you want to get away with craziness, don’t improvise, copy popular lunatics.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity depends on accepting two kinds of absurdity.
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Miracles: claims that things that never happen and/or which violate the laws of physics, did indeed happen through supernatural interference with natural law.
- Ignoring logical inconsistencies and inconsistency with archaeology or history with the general explanation that things of the spirit are too complicated for man to understand.
It is much easier to accept a idea, true or false, into fallow ground, where no prior idea, true or false, has already staked the territory.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
According to Judas
In the gospel of Judas, a foolish and evil god created the earth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists hold themselves and each other accountable for their actions. Christians to not. They believe a few magic words, some mumbled prayers and a small donation erases all sin. How dare Christians claim to be more moral.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Accuracy of Genesis
According to Genesis, the first thing god created was light. This is not so. For the first 200 million years after the big bang, the universe was dark. The stars formed, then the universe lit up. Because light takes so long to get to us from the other side of the universe, we can see back in time.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Accusing Science of The Christian Vice
Christians chastise scientists for arrogance, for pretending to know everything. This is a slander. Sir Isaac Newton, the discoverer put it I do not know what I may appear to the world, but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me. It is the Christians who project a fanciful construct of harps, demons, cherubs and seraphim on the unknown, pretending to know everything, based on nothing but imagination.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Act Of God
The term act of god is silly. It is a medieval notion that god smotes people for secret crimes. It should be replaced with the term widespread catastrophe, to indicate the real problem that in an earthquake or tsunami there would be too many simultaneous claims. The insurance company would not be able to pay out.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When you are a kid, you are allowed to be silly, to twist your face up, to make silly noises, to jump about, to flail your arms… When you become an adult you have to be much more constrained, except perhaps when you are alone in the bathroom staring into the mirror.
Voudou gives its followers permission to act in a crazy way, rolling about, and writhing in public in a grossly sexual way. Any behaviour is excused as demonic possession.
Many sects of Christianity have something similar. People can lie on the floor and twitch as if having an epileptic fit. They can babble nonsense syllables. They can feign catatonia. They can jump and dance. They can flail their arms about. They can huff-speak (adding a huff exhalation on the each phrase). They can scream and shout. Even extremely fat people allow themselves a bout of vigorous aerobic exercise.
This kind of craziness is fun. It might be safer for Christians to join an improv theater group. They could have the fun without the sinister indoctrination. Further it would cost a lot less.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Acting Like A Christian
Let’s say I went to buy a car. The salesman showed me a car three times size of what I was looking for. I told him That won’t do. Then he said If you don’t buy this car, I am going to send someone over to shoot your dog and your family too.
Then you went to a night school class and you said I don’t understand how you are supposed to just guess the integral. Surely there must some rules. The prof said How dare you question my authority. Some time in the next year a pack of pitbulls are going to jump through your front windows and tear you and your family to pieces and I will have nothing to do with it.
You’d think if Christians wore selling you such good news they would not have to threaten torture to get you to believe it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Acting On Delusions
It is not what Christians believe that causes the trouble, it is the harm they do based on those delusions that is the problem.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine if some prankster founded a religion then told the people, you have to pretend to be pigeons and tape blocks to your heads, or men must wear doilies, or must never wash their bodies or trim their hair claiming the deity of deities commanded it. I know, I know, it already happened.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Activities For Boys
Activities for boys teach violence, cruelty and insensitivity to others. When the boys grow up, those most suggestible become soldiers or gang members. The activities, killing, maiming, stealing and raping, are the same. The main difference is the pay.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Acts of Charity
Whose acts of charity do you most admire?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- The man who is motivated by applause from his fellow men.
- The man who is motivated by promise of reward from the sky god after he dies.
- The man who does the job because the job needs doing.
Acts of God
Fundamentalists like Pat Robertson never miss an opportunity to label a natural disaster such as a hurricane or flood as Jehovah’s wrath directed on whomever he disagrees with. I find it hypocritical that fundamentalists refuse to take a hint when Jehovah struck a kitsch Touchdown Jesus statue with lightning, burning it to the ground, or when hurricane Isaac smote the Republican National convention.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Acts Of God
If the churches claim to be God’s representatives on earth. If they collect money in his name then surely they are also liable for acts of God.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ad Hoc Miracles, Cheap
In the rules of Christian apologetics, it is legitimate to explain a biblical inconsistency by invoking as many ad hoc undocumented miracles as needed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Addiction to Hope
Many people are so addicted to hope, they think it is a good thing to tell lies to create false hope. If somebody tried to cheer me up by telling me there was going to be a surprise party for me next week and it did not happen, I would feel worse than ever. You are better to give hope without telling lies or raising unrealistic expectations. What people need even more than hope is how to appreciate their life as it is.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Just as a Big Mac was designed purely to be maximally addictive, to maximise profit, with no concerned for nutrition, religions were designed to be maximally addictive, to maximise profit, with no concern for the welfare of the believer or for the truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Admiring the Christian Con
What if secular con men used scams as elaborate as those of the Christian church? Imagine:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- The victim does not realise he is being had, ever.
- The victim get suckered in again an again every week of his life.
- Secular con men, too, would build schools. Part of the curriculum would be inculcating beliefs that made people easy to con. Any nonsense will do. You jam people’s ability to reason by convincing them something riddled with inconsistencies is perfect truth.
- Victims would be tricked into introducing the con to their children and softening them up for it.
- Con men would give themselves grand-sounding academic titles like Dr. of Divinity.
Advantage of Death
The main advantage of death is a moratorium on your todo list.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Advantage Of Truth
Obviously, if you believe things that are true and don’t believe things that are false you have an advantage. You accurately know how the world works, what you really have to do to achieve a given effect. Every time you refuse to believe something that is true, or choose to believe something that is false, you hamper your ability to act effectively in the world. Oddly, many people, e.g. Christians, think it wise to believe things that are likely false, for which their is no evidence. They hurt themselves and their families. They waste scarce resources on the church. They waste time praying. They may avoid doing something that would work for the problem at hand, like sanitation or antibiotics.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Advantages of Being Atheist
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- You accept that your lifespan is limited. You make the best of each day, rather than snoozing through it waiting for an afterlife.
- You don’t blame a god for your good or bad fortune and wallow in inaction. You take full responsibility.
- You don’t wasted time accommodating petty religious rules. You just bother with rules that make sense.
- You don’t fear being roasted alive for eternity.
- You don’t have to defend silly beliefs to yourself or others.
Advantages of Polytheism
As religious myths go, polytheism has one huge advantage. As an polytheist, my default position is that your gods exist too. I don’t have to deny their existence or declare them wicked or kill you for worshiping them. It is just that I like mine better, or that mine specialise in requests from my locality or in my sort of needs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Where do you go when you die? Where do grasshoppers, rabbits, mice, elephants, dolphins, dogs, frogs, fish, bacteria… go? Nowhere. They just rot. Where do you Mr. Creationist get off on thinking you deserve to be treated specially? There is zero evidence for it. Have you ever touched a corpse? They are cold, like a piece of meat. They soon start to rot. You don’t see a ghost coming out of them like you do in the Christian movies. You Christians are so stuck up, such cowards. You even deny you die.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the most cheerful documentaries ever made is called After People that explores, in one episode, what would happen to various religious buildings, statues and icons if people suddenly disappeared. It is so pleasant to remind yourself that the symbols of cruel and irrational religious bigotry require constant upkeep by the fanatics. Without that attention they would instantly start deteriorating.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The afterlife: never was an idea more firmly believed nor that had so little evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Christians seriously believed in the afterlife, they would dance at funerals.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Afterlife = Wasted Life
Belief in an afterlife is just an excuse to do nothing with this one.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Afterlife is Awful Either Way
The afterlife for the majority is eternal torment. The afterlife for the rest is eternal boredom and tyranny. If I seriously believed in an afterlife, with no way to opt out, not even suicide, I would feel like a rat trapped in corner. It would be horrible. At least, for me, as a non-believer in afterlife, no matter how bad things get, I know there is the option of suicide. I am not trapped. I am choosing to suffer.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Age of Consent
The age of consent in the Vatican is the lowest in Europe, 12.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Age of Humanity
Hindu fundamentalists assure me god told them people have been living on earth for over a million years. Christian fundamentalists assure me god told them people have been living on earth only 6000 years. Science says humans have been living on earth for about 250,000 years. Why would god tell two different bum-steer stories?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- God forgot. He has a lot on his mind.
- God was telling a joke.
- God did not really tell anyone anything. The Hindus and Christian were mistaken, goaded by wishful thinking that god would talk to them.
- There are no gods.
Agnostics From Cowardice
I don’t think there are really that many agnostics. Surely most people who are agnostic imagine gods have much poorer odds than unicorns of existing. If you ask them Do unicorns exist? They would say No!. They would not beat around the bush with quibbles. They quibble about the god Jehovah to avoid being vilified by Christians or to placate them. You don’t see people saying idiotic things like I have no evidence that fairies exist, but, of course, such evidence could exist. I have a totally open mind on the matter. Given the complete lack of supporting evidence I’d estimate it 99.99% certain that fairies exist. the way they do with the god Jehovah.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
All Christians Are Mentally Ill
It might be more productive to treat Christians and Muslims as patients rather than enemies. They are suffering from the most common mental illness, though one of the most serious conditions. With other mental diseases, rarely do you have other patients interfering with the treatment. It is hard not to be angry with these people for spouting such nonsense, hurting children, interfering in sane people’s lives etc. Think of the mad ramblings of people with Alzheimers. Getting angry does not help.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
All Religions Are False
I have to laugh when religious fanatics claims other religions are false. By definition all religions are false. They all make absurd claims without evidence. Further, their beliefs are invariable in conflict with science and common sense. They all make a virtue of believing their nonsense, without evidence, counter to all appearances.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
All Religions Disagree
Since all the religions of the world disagree, they can’t all be true, however, they can all be false. Indeed, they most certainly all are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
All Things Are Possible
I have heard With god, all things are possible. Why then won’t god get onboard with ending poverty in Africa, with cleaning up the environment, with switching to clean energy…~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Allah Turned His Back
The poor Muslims must imagine that Allah has turned his back on them. He let Jews evict the Palestinians and effectively enslave those left behind. He allowed the Serbs to massacre them. He let Americans barge in and steal their oil, seed genomes and anything else of value, shredding people of all ages and genders with high explosives, burning them with napalm and white phosphorus — not to mention routine torture.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Allocation of Misery
Christians must surely notice that wonderful things happen to evil people, and terrible things happen to good people. If there were a god, surely he would not do that.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Alternate Explanation for Virgin Birth
It is possible for a virgin to get pregnant without breaking her hymen. Sperm are determined little swimmers. How do Christians know this is not what happened?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I had a slightly strange event. I lost my glasses. I searched my apartment for many hours to no avail. I knew they had to be in there somewhere. I wandered about for days using my badly damaged backup pair. I finally found my glasses intertwined in the rear carrier of my bicycle. I have no idea how they got there. I can’t think of any scenario that would put them there. Within in an hour, I discovered the Kryptonite bicycle lock had also gone missing.
Different people would leap to quite conclusions about the meaning of these two events:
- There are some who would be convinced there was a personal message from Jehovah hidden in there somewhere.
- Others would announce this had to be a result of bad karma. The universe was punishing me for unrelated past behaviour.
- Others might take this as proof of a hypothesised conservation of misery law of the universe.
- Others might assume the best explanation is creeping Alzheimers.
- Others might assume some human agent was playing tricks on me.
- Others would propose some highly improbable Sherlockian series of events that tightly and inevitably intertwined the two observations.
- Others might assume the two events were not related in any way; it was pure co-coincidence.
- Others would only be concerned about preventing recurrence of losing items and would refuse to speculate.
- Others would focus on ways to punish me to make me more careful about where I store things.
The interesting thing is people have a knee-jerk way of responding to all unusual events. They will even get angry at people who even entertain any of the alternatives.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The people of Central America believe their gods called forth the world, then fought with each other and destroyed and recreated it several times over using the forces of nature. They had a battle with an earth monster, whose body now forms the mountains. This is a poetic way of describing the forces of nature: volcanoes, water, wind and tectonic pressures forming the earth. It is more accurate than the legend the Christians flog. Yet neither has any evidence. Both are just works of imagination.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Alternatives To Christianity
Jesus/Jehovah is just one of 60,000 gods. What about the other ones? Their stories and claims are almost identical to the Christians ones. Both have the same amount of evidence. Yet Christians happily dismiss all the others without so much as a glance. How do Christians do that? What difference can they detect that allows them to accept Christian claims uncritically and reject all others without examination? Do they just refuse to look at any religion other than the religion they were given in childhood? How could they then expect me to accept Christianity if it were not given me in childhood, if that is the only way they accepted it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Alternatives to Christianity
Nearly all the 60,000 religions threaten me harm if I don’t subscribe. I have only had a close look at Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and Scientology and a few obscure ones. I have bad news for you Christians. Islam is much scarier and its threats are much more believable. So if I am to believe in a god, why do it the Christian way? Christians who know only their own religion are not competent to answer.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Alternatives to Jehovah
By now, if you are Christian, you should have ample evidence that praying to Jehovah does not work. How do you know Jehovah is the best, when you have not even read about the others much less test driven them? There is the same amount of evidence for the existence of the other gods as for Jehovah. All the arguments you have heard for the existence of god apply equally well to all of humanity’s gods. Why not at least try one of the other ten thousand plus gods such as: Aa, AbilAddu, Addu, Adeona, Ahijah, Aku, Allatu, Alom, Amaterasu, Amurru, Anath, Anion-Re, Anu, Anubis, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apsu, Ares, Ariadne, Arianrod, Artemis, Ashtoreth, Assur, Astarte, Athena, Baal, Bacchus, Balder, Bau, Beltu, Belus, Bettis, Bilé, Bitol, Centeotl, Ceros, Circe, Consul, Cronos, Cunina, Cupid, Dagan, Dagda, Dagon, Dauke, Dea, Demeter, Dia, Diana of Ephesus, Dimmer, Dionesus, Dumu-zi-abzu, Ea, Earth, Edulia, El, Elali, Elum, En-Mersi, Engurra, Enki, Enurestu, Eros, Flora, Freya, Frigg, Furring, Gaia, Ganesh, Garuda, Gasan-abzu, Gasan-lil, Giant, Gitchi Manitou, Goibniu, Govannon, Gukumatz, Gunfled, Gwydion, Hadad, Hades, Hanuman, Helios, Hera, Hermes, Heroin, Huitzilopochtli, Indra, Isis, Istar, Isum, Ixmucane, Jehovah, Juno, Jupiter, Kaawanu, Kerridwen, Krishna, Kuski-banda, Lêr, Lagas, Lakshmi, Liza, Llaw Gyffes, Lleu, Loki, Lucina, Lugal-Amarada, Ma-banba-anna, Mama Quila, Mami, Manawyddan, Marama, Marduk, Mars, Marzin, Meditrina, Melek, Memetona, Mercury, Merodach, Mider, Minerva, Mithras, Molech, Morrigu, Mu-ul-lil, Mulu-hursang, Nebo, Neptune, Nergal, Ni-zu, Nin, Nin-azu, Nin-lil-la, Nin-man, Ninib, Nirig, Nuada Argetlam, Nusku, Odin, Ogma, Ogyrvan, Ops, Osiris, Pan, Persephone, Phoebe, Pluto, Plutus, Poseidon, Potina, Ptah, Pwyll, Qarradu, Quetzalcoatl, Re, Resheph, Rigantona, Robigus, Saga, Sahi, Samas, Saturn, Sebek, Shalem, Sharrab, Shiva, Sin, Sirtumu, Sokk-mimi, Sol, Statilinus, Suqamunu, Surya, Tagd, Tammuz, Thor, Tilmun, Tiu, U-dimmer-an-kia, U-ki, U-Mersi, U-sab-sib, U-Tin-dir ki, U-urugal, Ubargisi, Ubilulu, Ueras, Uhuru Mazda, Ura-gala, Utu, Vaticanus, Vediovis, Venus, Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Xolotl, Yau, Zagaga, Zaraqu, Zer-panitu, Zeus… If you are worried that Jehovah might be jealous, ask for permission by saying, Jehovah, If you have any strenuous objections to me to performing some prayer experiments to the second string gods, give me a sign by making a 30.48 cm (12 in) high, living blue elephant appear on my coffee table. He could easily do it if he wanted, right?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Amazing Con
One of the most amazing cons the Catholic church managed to pull off was convincing people that Catholics were much less likely than other people to be scoundrels.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Amazing Implications of Freedom of Religion
Freedom of religion is an extreme freedom, akin to permitting people the right to take a giant hit of LSD (d-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide) that permanently damages their brains, leaving them delusional and unable to reason.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
American bigots insisted Muslims move their mosque and education center far away from the World Trade Towers sight because their presence somehow desecrated the site. This is like demanding the Jews publicly atone for killing Jesus. The people at the mosque had absolute nothing to with 9/11. Bigots are trying to force them to confess that they did. It is astounding how bigoted mainstream America is becoming. It is like watching the gradual transformation of Nazi Germany.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bryan Fischer’s America Family Association are attempting to block Muslims from building any more mosques anywhere in the USA. This, of course, is unconstitutional. The constitution guarantees freedom of religion. It shows you how much bigotry still remains at the heart of America. If Americans behave like medieval bigots, they have not a leg to stand on asking the rest of the world to show religious tolerance.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
25% of American adults do not know the earth revolves around the sun. How could this be? It is taught starting in the second grade. It is taught in every video and documentary about astronomy. In history, the conflicts of Copernicus and Galileo and the church highlight it. What must happen is a preschooler is scolded for watching a science documentary by an ignorant church lady parent who associates all scientific knowledge with wickedness.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
American Christians assure me their moral code is the only moral code worthy of the name. Have they ever looked at American murder rates, gun violence rates, rapes, thefts… compared with other countries?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The American State Religion
What if America were to institute a state religion. What would it be like? It would have to be suitable for nearly all Americans including Christians, Catholics, Mormons, Jews, Muslims, Wiccans, Buddhists… It pretty much has to accept everything in terms of rituals and beliefs. It has to keep these warring factions from each other’s throats. It can’t force any rituals or teachings of faith on anyone or some will be furious. It could have a few articles of faith based on nationalism e.g.
- America is the favoured country of all gods.
- When American soldiers kill or torture people, this is a Good Thing™, no matter what the circumstances.
- Anything America wants belongs to America.
What have we got? Something that sounds just like secularism.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Americans refuse to vote for anyone but a Christian, or someone who pretends to be one. That makes it dangerously close to a theocracy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is amusing when Christians look down at Mormons and Scientologists because they believe such bizarre things without any evidence to support them. They seem completely unaware that their talking donkeys, talking snakes, harp-farts and fairy tale geology are just as ridiculous.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It would be interesting to select verses from the holy books of the various world religions, then modify the names to disguise the source. Then show them to believers of various faiths and ask if they believe the verse or not. How many would get a perfect score, rejecting the verses of all other religions but accepting all those of their own?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
An Intelligent Design Stomach
If my stomach were the result of intelligent design, I could pop by Sears and get my malfunctioning stomach replaced for under $100.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What if an ancient drug experienced a resurgence. It made people violent. It made crowds go berserk and murder their neighbours. It made people beat their children. It made people attack their own children’s genitals with knives and drink the blood. It gave them delusions they could not die. It made them hear voices whose commandments they obeyed without question. It made people stupid and gullible. Con men preyed on them. People were so keen on the drug they would force it on their neighbours and even their own infants. The people insisted this drug was harmless, nay beneficial and that people who refused it should be denied civil rights and citizenship. Would you be in favour of government programs to promote this drug? No? Then why do you allow your government to give tax deductions to religions which have the same effect?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ancient Greeks Smarter Than Christians
Even the ancient Greeks understood there we are not the centre of the universe, that it was not created solely for our delectation. They believed there were other suns, with other planets, with other forms of life.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ancient Greeks Were Must Better At Science That Ancient Jews
It is amazing how the ancient Greeks, reasoning from ordinary observations, such as the spread of moisture in the air, were able to guess so much about how the universe is constructed. They figured out it was made of atoms, that there were a finite number of types of atom and atoms had abilities to link to other types of atoms. In contrast, the ancient Jews did not get anything right.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religions, while they provide rich traditions, encourage people to hang onto ancient grudges. The Shiites flagellate themselves over the death of Imam Hussein. The Christians flagellate themselves over the death of Jesus. The Jews still celebrate hold present the memory of the Masada mass suicide. And, of course, they still hold a grudge against the descendants of the villains in their view of the events.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ancient Mistakes, Never Corrected
If you saw a massive pillar of fire or smoke, or a river running red with mud, you would ascribe it to a volcano, not a god’s wrath, but millions of modern Christians insist on claiming that an ancient pillar of fire was a god’s wrath, just because the people of the time mistook it for that. Such is the power of tradition to make people behave like idiots.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What was religion like 20,000 years ago? I suspect the hunger people feel today for religions may actually be a longing for the ancient proto-religion revolving around animal torture.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ancient Stage Magic
When Christians think about magic in the present they think Las Vegas, sleight of hand and optical illusions. When Christians think about magic in the past, they think only of divine intervention. Do they think people were too dumb back then to do stage magic like making a rod turn into a snake? or fake a healing?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
And God Created the Irukandji
Irukandji jellyfish is about the size of a fingernail, but if it brushes you, it creates the greatest pain known to man. It uses this toxin to catch small fish. That strikes me as a rather cruel creation to come from the alleged benign designer of the universe. It sounds like the work of a sadistic psychopath, (or mindless pure selfishness, as Darwin suggested).~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Anger At Jehovah
If you pray to the god Jehovah for something ordinary, like a boiled egg for breakfast, there is a good chance you will get it, but if you pray for something unusual like snow in July, it is most likely Jehovah will ignore your request. Jehovah never intervenes to protect you or anyone else. This makes anger at Jehovah common. Being angry with the god Jehovah is a bit like being angry with the building manager of a derelict building when there is no building manager. Anger at Jehovah, recognising what an asshole he is, is the first step to realising he is a fictional character.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Anger At Jehovah
When people get angry at the God Jehovah, I feel contempt. What they are doing is so childish:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Shouting at the wind as if it had conscious malicious intent against their particular tent.
- Imagining the creator of the universe has nothing better to do but mother you, and override the natural laws of the universe to keep you out of an avalanche or from getting cancer. It is such a self-centered, grossly-entitled view of the universe.
- Despite a perfectly good science education, people revert to a Neanderthal view of the world where everything happens by the agent of invisible spirits.
Human morality is based on animal morality. It may surprise to learn that some animals live to a higher code than humans, e.g. bonobos, dolphins and whales, even some fish.
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Do not eat or kill your young.
- Do not eat or kill your kin.
- In combat for mates, inflict no permanent injury.
- Your top priority is providing for your offspring.
- Avoid incest.
- Respect other’s territory.
- No surplus killing (do not kill more than you can eat).
- Do not torment your food.
- Do not eat or kill members of your own species.
Long ago, Christians abandoned human and animal sacrifice. There are only a few Christians today who might try to acquire a new car by slicing open their cat. However, modern day Christians make an exception for Jesus. They still believe that his human sacrifice by crucifixion magically caused good things to happen.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When Christians find out I am an atheist, they often tell me that I have embraced evil, that they know for certain I molest children and steal. They could not possibly imagine me helping the poor.
They don’t know I once gave away everything I owned including a fully-paid-for four-bedroom house to help the people starving in Ethiopia.
They are confused. They think the only reason to do good is out of fear of being tortured by a sadistic sky god. Doing good is its own reward. Not only do you feel warm and fuzzy, you get to live in a world a little kinder than it once was.
They think Jesus’ philosophy of kindness to the disadvantaged is only true because Jesus was magic. I think it does not matter at all if Jesus was magic. It does not even matter if he ever existed. The philosophy can be judged and found to have merit all on its own.
The irony is so many Republican Christians embrace an ethic of selfishness and actively persecuting the homeless yet imagine themselves more virtuous than everyone else.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Another of God’s Broken Promises
In Biblical times when a people were conquered, it was a tacit admission the conqueror’s god was more powerful than theirs, so they would convert. When the temple was destroyed, the Jews were devastated. There god had broken his promise to maintain the temple into eternity. They decided to look for reasons to justify Jehovah punishing them that way and to cook up some ways to placate him.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Anthropocentric After Life
I find it impossible to swallow the Christian theory of the afterlife because it is so man-centred and so tied to a particular culture, place and time. To Christianity, no other species exists but man. Not only in there no evidence for it, it smells very unlikely. At least the Buddhists postulate a cycle of rebirth of all species in a consistent way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
We need some jokes to combat religion. They would poke fun at:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Pedophile clergy.
- Christian credulity.
- Christians trying to impose their religion on others without realising they are impinging on religious freedom.
- Christian lack of knowledge of their own religion.
- Foolishness of Christian belief.
If you think you know more than your doctor about vaccines, then you probably know more about everything in medicine. You should stop going.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Apologetics is an unusually honest term from the Christians. They are apologising for all the errors and inconsistencies in the bible. They are apologising for the total lack of evidence to back up their claims. All they can offer is absurd rationalisations.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Apologetics is the sport of making up far-fetched excuses for the lack of evidence for Christian claims and for the abundance of evidence refuting Christian claims.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Professional Christian apologetics try to tell us that the mathematical findings of Stephen Hawking about the early history of the universe prove the existence of god. These Christians have no training whatsoever in math or physics. There is thus no chance they understand what Dr. Hawking is saying. We should led Dr. Hawking speak for himself.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Professional Christians are skilled in the tricky art of apologetics — defending nonsense and making it sound rational. You could look at it as a form of stage magic, deception or lying. To deal with it, you have to learn how it works. Some of it dates back to Paul of Tarsus, Augustine of Hippo and Thomas Aquinas.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Children born to Muslim parents are immediately subjected to indoctrination in the faith. If they get older and want to leave, they may not. The punishment for leaving is death. This not just a religious law. It is the civil law in Muslim countries. There is no freedom to choose your religion. This is in complete contradiction with Muslim teaching which asserts there is no coercion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Appeal of the Absurd
Most Christians could care less if what they claim to believe makes sense. The absurdity of it all is what appeals to them. They expect to be baffled by things holy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Appeal of Flattery
Religion flatters second grade dropouts into claiming they know more about science than PhDs in particle physics.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Appeal of Group Feelings
Adults get hooked on religions because of the way they feel in the fellowship of believers, not because the religion seems more plausible or truthful than the alternatives.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Appeal to Laziness
Belief in prayer is the most common of human delusions. It starts in childhood when parents command the child to pray, despite lack of results. Eventually some prayed-for thing happens naturally. Then they are hooked. Anything they want thereafter they pray for first. They attribute every good thing that happens to them as the result of this obsessive praying. The belief is seductive because it appeals to laziness. Why work when you can just pray for what you want? It turns people into lazy, ineffective slobs who imagine themselves holier than everyone else. They never check to see if those who don’t pray accomplish more or less than they do. They never do a controlled experiment to see if prayer has any effect.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Appeal of Reincarnation
Some people succumb to the lure of belief in reincarnation. But do they really want to be a baby again, unable to speak or move about, to be a child forced to eat food they detest, with every move controlled by others, to be a teen with the extreme sexual frustration and embarrassment of puberty or a young adult facing the brutal rejections and being suddenly dumped?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Appeal of Religion
The appeal of religion has nothing to do with the probability that some holy book is true. It is about the lottery-odds chance that if you pretend to subscribe, the religion’s deity will bestow special favours on you and smite your enemies. It other words, it is all about selfishness and wishful thinking.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Appeal of Silliness
Religions make themselves silly by claiming fanciful stories are literally true. Religions make themselves obnoxious by claiming to have an exclusive and inerrant handle on all knowledge. Oddly, the sillier and obnoxious a religion is, the more appeal it has.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In dealing with Christians, what emotion would best help them drop their delusions? contempt? fury? bemusement? condescension? scolding? horse laughter?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Have you ever heard of an aquarist who starved his fish to death? Who introduced plagues to kill them? Who allowed the water to dry up? Who punished them for ordinary fishy behaviour? An ordinary human aquarist treats his charges far better than the allegedly infinitely merciful Jehovah.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Are Christians Ethical?
Christians see atheists as evil, people to be silenced, bullied and contained. Atheists see Christians as ignorant, pathetic, deluded and crazy, people who need to be freed of their delusions. Who is more ethical?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Are You An Atheist?
How do you feel about Zeus, Thor and Horus? You have no fear of them. You don’t hate them. They are just characters in mythology. You are an atheist relative to those gods. How do you feel about Jehovah (or the god popular in your culture)? Same way? If yes, you are an atheist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Are You The Second Coming?
Did you ever ask yourself Maybe I was supposed to be the second coming and I am really the only one who seriously gives a shit about saving the planet and the only one smart enough to know what to do and the whole world is waiting for me to get off my ass or waiting for me to reveal myself with silly impersonations of the time-traveling clown who affects medieval speech and mannerism they are expecting?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Everyone had argued with someone with a closed mind, someone who refused to look at evidence. However, when Christians do this, it is exceptionally irritating. I find myself fantasising about killing them. What is it they do differently that is so irritating?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- They are uneducated, ignorant people who look down at you and sneer, treating you as knowing nothing, rather than merely disagreeing.
- They repeat endlessly-rebutted arguments as if they had just come up with some brilliant show-stopper of an argument. They know perfectly well the argument is invalid.
- They recycle evidence that has been debunked a thousand times. They lie. They try to sneak it past you.
- They have no regard whatsoever for truth. They will happily tell any lie to support their whacky beliefs.
Argument For Lying
If you ask a Christian why he thinks the god Jehovah exists, he will usually answer something along the lines of God has to exist. If he didn’t, people would run amok. They would have no sense of right and wrong. This is not an argument for the god Jehovah existing, but rather an argument for the utility of lying to people that he does. The Christian seems to be doing a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, letting me know that he too does not believe in a mean old man spying from the clouds, but he wants me to help him perpetuate the lie on others. It is a supercilious way to view one’s fellows.
Of course, in most of the world, people have never heard of Jehovah, and behave just as well as Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments Against 2+ Gods
Christians love to argue why there can’t be less than one god, but I don’t recall them providing any arguments why there cannot be more than one.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments Against There Being a Deity
The arguments against god include:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- There is no necessity for a god. Even the big bang, even the creation of life turns out to be a natural process.
- There is no evidence that god exists. Prayer does not work every time as promised. Christians experience just as many calamities as non-believers. Those that believe, do so purely on faith.
- The book that is often passed off as god’s penmanship is full of error and inconsistency. It is wrong on every point of science it makes. There is nothing supernatural about it at all. It is not authorative.
- There are 60,000 gods. Those that sell some particular god dismiss 59,999 of them. Any arguments for or against god apply equally to all 60,000 gods. In other words, the deists already admit the notion of god is silly. They have already dismissed it themselves for nearly all gods (most of which they have not studied), but have an infantile attachment to one exception, no different from any of the rest.
Arguments for Christians
When you present your best, clearest, logically irrefutable argument to Christians and they ignore it or mock it, the tendency is become angry with them for their wilful stupidity. The problem is you presented them an argument that appeals to you. You need to come up with something that persuades them, not necessarily a fact-based, logical argument. Consider that if you appeal to authority of any kind, they have quite different authorities.
Imagine you were a psychiatrist treating a patient for delusions. If your treatment did not work, it is hardly the patient’s fault. They have suffered a deep trauma that left lasting brain damage.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments for A Deity vs Arguments for Jehovah
Every argument a Christian has ever offered me for the existence of god applies equally well to Clarus the dogcow as to the god Jehovah.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments for the Existence of God
All the arguments Christians give for the existence of god are for something that started the universe. In previous centuries, God had a lot more to do, such as raise and lower the tides. Today, it is more Christians are arguing for a set of cosmic jumper cables. God’s only remaining duty is ceremonially signaling the start of the big bang.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments for God
Every argument you have ever heard for the existence of god was merely an argument for a mysterious entity with some particular supernatural power, not a full-blown deity. It was never an argument for a particular deity like Jehovah, Allah or Ganesh. Further, they did not argue for omniscience, omnipotence, infinite love… There is a tremendous amount of deception and self-deception in the god-proving business.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments For A God, But None For Jehovah
Every argument I have heard for the existence of Jehovah/Allah would apply equally well to any of the ten thousand plus other gods man has postulated and to any other deity not yet proclaimed. Yet Christians are just as absolutely sure there is only one god and his name is Jehovah and they are of the existence of any god, even though they have not a shred of evidence for either hypothesis.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments For Gods Are Arguments for Unicorns
Is there any argument for the existence of some particular god or god(s) in general that would not apply equally well to unicorns?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments For God’s Existence
When Christians explain why they believe God exists, what they really do is give arguments for pretending that a god exists by repetitively attesting that they could not bear life without an imaginary friend.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments Must Persuade
No matter how logically valid an argument is, if it does not persuade, it is not a good argument. The essential problem is Christians hold their beliefs not because they think they are true but because:
- They believe they will possibly be tortured for eternity if they reject them.
- Mom told them they were true when they were so young they believed everything mom said without question.
- The ideas make them feel good.
- They think other people will behave better if they believe. (Forget science which shows the opposite. Forget logic which shows the opposite.)
- Their friends claim to believe them and would reject people who do not.
An effective atheist argument has to take those five motives into account, not just show how irrational Christian beliefs are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evangelists always shout and wave their arms. Normally the truth speaks for itself. They know they are selling lies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arms Against A Sea Of Troubles
There are many planetary evils you can take up arms against. Religion is the one of the more attractive, since it is sustained nearly entirely by human stupidity. There are no intractable forces of nature to contend with, no stupendous financial machine. You’d think all you had to do was explain to people where they were making errors in their thinking and religious superstition would evaporate like the witch in the Wizard of Oz.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There is a difference between an arranged marriage and a forced marriage. In an arranged marriage, the partners must give their consent after they are 16 before they marry. It is time to put a stop to forced marriage. It leads to miserable marriages, domestic abuse, estrangements and suicide.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arrogance of Prayer
Aside from the fact that prayer does not work, I find it unbelievably arrogant of people to tell an omniscient, infinitely wise god what to do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Arrogant Claim
Christians make an arrogant claim namely that their religion alone is 100% true and the 60,000 others are pure fiction. They claim to know this without reading the holy books of any other religion and with cherry picking only a few pages of their own.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Art Of Manipulation
The primary technique of manipulation is telling lies. The manipulator promises that doing as he asks will lead to satisfying some strong basic drive or avoiding something feared. The satirical movie Idiotocracy lays the mechanism bare in its crudest form. The art reaches its peak in religious evangelism.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One task we might ask artificial intelligence to tackle is the consistency of all the biblical and historical documents we have, and prepare a list of the most glaring and important inconsistencies sorted in order by egregiousness. Perhaps Christians will then at least have a look.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If things go wrong, the religious reaction is to look around for a culprit. It might be another person, a demon, a fairy, Jehovah, Satan. If your cow went dry, it must be the neighbour giving it the evil eye. The reaction to all this imagined malice was to severely punish, even without a stick of evidence. Of course, this cruelty did nothing to reduce bad luck.
When things go wrong, the scientists first looks for some material cause. Even when he decides the problem was caused by a human, he looks first to human imperfection as the cause, not malice, e.g. in a car crash.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ashamed to be a Christian
Every religious sect claims it is 100% correct, and everyone else is in error. Then they refuse to provide any evidence to back the claim. That is so rude, so conceited and so improbable. I can conceive of someone with a Trump-sized ego thinking that, but not an ordinary human. Maybe what Christians are doing is like holding up their religion as a sort of lottery ticket, screaming they are sure they have the winning ticket. Just like any other lottery ticket buyers, they want to bask in the short-lived anticipation.
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Asking God To Commit A Crime
Praying to god before a football game is pretty insulting. What you are asking is God to play favourites and fix the game.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Assuming All Other Religions are Wrong
The one question Christians refuse to tackle is Why are you so sure all the other religions are wrong? What is so different about yours? You admit you know utterly nothing about them. How can you possibly know yours is the best?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Assuming Religion is Good
The problem with religion is adherents have been told over and over and over it is the ultimate good. They never look to see if this is actually the case. If they did, they would see it for the hideous evil it is.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Assumptions About Life
Even though scientists knew perfectly well that physics and chemistry work the same way throughout the universe and that our sun in a perfectly ordinary yellow dwarf, they made two very strange assumptions:
- Only our sun has planets.
- Only our planet has life.
That is so irrational. Why would we be so darned special? They should have presumed we are not special until proved otherwise. I think what happened is unconsciously scientists absorbed Christian beliefs about the universe being created purely as a playground for man. At least now the discovery of other solar systems has put part of this conceit to rest.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheism As Civil Rights
Atheism is more than just a philosophical position. It is a civil rights movement.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheism Is Not Another Religion
Religious extremists try to paint secularism as just another competing religion. Religion is asserting things for which you have no evidence. Secularism does not concern itself with such matters. Secularism is about everything but religion. Religious extremists are effectively claiming that not discussing religion in order to preserve the peace is itself a religion, thus they are justified in thrusting their sect forward to replace secularism as the state religion.
It is quite possible to teach ethics in a secular way, but religious extremists don’t care about teaching ethics; they want to instill terror of god Jehovah in children because they consider ethics equivalent to placating the vengeful god Jehovah.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheism Is Not Just Another Religion
One of the popular defences a religious apologist uses is to pretend religion is an arbitrary choice, like picking a favourite flavour of ice cream and atheism is just one of those choices. That is like including non-fiction as one of the possible choices of your favourite genre of fiction.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheism Is Not A Religion
If atheism is a religion, then not playing soccer is a sport.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheism vs Humanism
Atheism and humanism are not the same thing. Humanism is atheism plus some other ideas.
Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence over established doctrine or faith.
Atheism simply means you think there is no evidence for the existence of any gods. It is not about morals. Atheism does not come with a built-in moral code, but that does not mean it recommends evil. It says get your moral code from reason or elsewhere. You could have any moral system under the sun and pair it with atheism. Atheism does not imply acceptance of any particular scientific theories such as the big bang or evolution, though, of course, most atheists do.
Atheism does not imply you think well of humanity the way humanism does.
Christians have tried to make the public think that atheism is form of Satan worship. That is nonsense. Atheism recognises no gods.
Atheists do not hate Jehovah or rebel against him. They have no desire to be wicked. They are just very sure he is a character of fiction, like all the other 60,000 gods. Jehovah is thus irrelevant, just as what Zeus wants is irrelevant. Jehovah is just another god from fable. Most atheists are also disgusted by the barbarity of the Christian moral code and the way Christians try to pretend their bible contains a reasonable guide to behaviour in modern day.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
We atheists have a huge advantage. All the evidence supports our view. We don’t need to convince anyone of anything, just get them to look at the evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheist as Amateur Shrink
An atheist proselytiser must be a psychiatrist. His goal is freeing others from delusions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There is one thing that most atheists do believe, that almost certainly, nothing happens to your consciousness after you die. It just as nothing as your existence before you were born. There is nothing to dread.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I grew up in an atheist household. At Christmas we had a tree, presents, a turkey and visiting relatives. We even sang Christmas carols. However, unlike Christians, we did not tell lies to each other about the history of what happened circa 0 AD.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheist Complaint with Christians
Atheists are not so much frustrated with Christians for stubbornly claiming the existence of god without evidence (and contrary to all evidence); they are mainly angry because of all the cruel and irrational things Christians believe with absolute certainty about what the creator of the universe demands of all humans (not just Christians) and then elect themselves as god’s fanatical enforcers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Judges in the USA deny custody to parents because they are atheist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheist or Christian Firefighter
Which firefighter do you think will do a better job?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- The atheist who knows if he fails to rescue the baby, that’s it for that child.
- The Christian who imagines if he lets the baby die, it will soon be in Jesus’s crowded arms. The pain and trauma will be erased allowing the child to enjoy a heavenly existence considerably better than it would have enjoyed on earth.
If I fly, I would like an experienced atheist pilot. I don’t want a Christian or Muslim for the following reasons:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- They have a tendency to stop taking rational action and pray when things get dodgy.
- They believe a fatal crash is acceptable. All that happens is they experience perfect bliss and/or get laid.
- They believe God will cover for them if they are sloppy. If anything goes wrong, they believe it is God’s will, not their incompetence.
Atheist Pilots Please
The last thing I want to see on a pilot is a religious symbol such as a cross or crescent. It means that when the going get tough, this twit will start praying and thinking about his imaginary afterlife rather than focusing on his job.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheist is a misleading term. Most atheists also oppose any supernatural claims or claims made without evidence, not just deistic ones. They also oppose claims for the value of homeopathy, astrology, angels, UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) inductions, crystal healing, biblical inerrantists, prayer… You might call them scientists or anti-wooists.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists take cheer from the statistics about the rapid decline of Christianity. We should not celebrate too quickly. In the period 1850 to 1900 atheism was much more widespread than today.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In every state in the USA, the fastest growing religion is none.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheist vs Satanist
Christians claim atheists hate god. Christians have atheists confused with Satanists. Satanists hate god. Atheists think he is a character in fiction.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists are Smarter than Christians
63 studies have confirmed that atheists are on average more intelligence than believers. Why would that be?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) source
- Dim-witted people are attracted to the simplistic explanations of the world that religion offers.
- Religious people are trained as children to distrust their own conclusions and defer to authority. Their ability to solve problems and reason for themselves thus withers.
In North Carolina, the state constitution prohibits atheists from holding public office, even a notary public.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
IIRC (If I Recall Correctly) the federal constitution should long ago have forced out this bit of medieval thinking, but North Carolinans have fought hard to keep it.
Atheists Do Not Reject God
Christians refuse to understand atheists. They accuse atheists of rejecting god, as if atheists believed Jehovah the god existed, but despised him and thus refused to worship him. Atheists often point out what a nasty character of fiction Jehovah is and question Christians on why they would worship a figure so evil. Atheists do not mean by that to concede that god exists. Atheists simply think Jehovah is a character of fiction that some simple-minded people believe is real. He is no more real than Snow White’s evil stepmother. Arguments about Jehovah’s existence are even more idiotic than arguments about whether Snow White’s evil stepmother was real. (The evil queen violates far fewer laws of physics.)
For atheists, the existence of god is not a serious issue. The only reason it is debated is there are so many people suffering from the delusion Jehovah is real and committing crimes because of it.
Why do Christians so badly misunderstand atheists? Christians, are terrified of Jehovah. They presume everyone else must think as they do, even if others deny it. The fear is so intense, it overpowers rational thought. It is like a person terrified of spiders has trouble understanding his fear is not universal.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists Know More Than Christians About Christianity
Most atheists know far more about Christianity than Christians do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists vs Agnostics
When people start discussing their conviction that god is a crock, they get suddenly all hypothetical and theoretical. They say I am agnostic. I cannot prove god exists, but they are just jerking your chain. They just are sure as they are that the Pacific Ocean exists. It is dishonest to suddenly don the cloak of ridiculous improbabilities, never used for anything else but discussing god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists Who Pandered To Religion
Historically, atheists have fostered religious delusions on the grounds the peasants needed the myths to keep their behaviour in check, though the controls were not necessary for the educated elite.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Atlas Delusion
People who are clinically deluded hang on desperately to their delusion even when others point out they have no reason to believe it and there are many reasons not to. They cannot explain why they are so sure the delusion is true, just that they feel utterly convinced there is no doubt it is true. They confuse this intense feeling with knowing.
I once met a glum mental patient in the Alameda Emergency Psych Ward who believed he was Atlas, supporting the world on his shoulders. Nobody could talk him out of it. I had idea. I said, Would you mind if I held the world for a while? He expressed great relief at being relieved of the duty. I pantomimed taking the world off his shoulders onto mine. He leapt up joyfully and ran off. A psychiatrist came and asked me what I did to cause Atlas’s astounding transformation. He was not freed of his delusion, but he was freed of much of its negative consequences.
Christians are similarly deluded and hold on like limpets to their delusions. We don’t normally think of Christians as deluded, but that is just because they are so common. I have tried many things to free them from their delusions. It is doubly hard because other infected Christians work hard to keep them deluded. I have yet to figure out some sort of intervention for Christians analogous to the one I used for Atlas, that will at least free them of the fear of being roasted alive.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Attached To Disease
Imagine trying to cure a disease that convinced the patient he were infinitely more worthy than everyone else. People being what they are, they become very attached to such delusions. They fight every attempt at treatment. Even though it is difficult, curing Christianity is possible. Don’t give up hope.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Why is it that Christians attack atheists with 100 times the vehemence they attack other religions? Christians disagree 100% on dogma with both other religions and with atheists. Other religions merely promote conflicting fluffy nonsense without offering any evidence. Atheists present hard evidence why Christianity (and a few other religions) is untrue.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Attacking When the Mark Is Weak
One of the unconscious tricks Christians use to snare new converts is to wait until they are grieving over the death of a loved one. They say I’m sure they are watching you now. They have no evidence whatsoever for this. The lie however, is so emotionally seductive at this weak point, it becomes the entry point for the entire Christian poison pill.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Attending Your Own Funeral
Christians plan elaborate funerals with long guest lists because they imagine their ghost will also attend.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Attitudes Toward Death
If you are a Christian you can’t seriously believe the nonsense about the harps and the horned boys in red tights with pitchforks. These are elements of comedy. You can never have a good think about death and put it aside as reasonably settled. With atheism, death is just the end. I might think about how to wrap up my life affairs and arrange some sort of ceremony, but nothing is terribly pressing or interesting. Nothing happens so there is nothing to fret about. When I am dead, it is no longer my problem. I won’t be there. It is no more problematic than my non-existence before I was born. In contrast, the subject of death is so touchy for Christians, merely encountering or thinking about an atheist is sufficient to trigger depressed musings about death.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Attitudes Toward the Future
There are three basic approaches of dealing with the future:
- The grasshopper: Do what would be optimal if you hit by a bus tomorrow.
- The gambler: Do you best to predict what is going to happen, the bet the farm you are right.
- The boy scout: Be prepared.
Betting that Christianity is essentially correct is such a longshot, trillions to one against. We don’t usually think of Christians as irresponsible gamblers. That bet is based on nothing more than a gut feeling nothing more, but they find it absolutely convincing. I wonder if they feel that same way about the odds of winning the next lottery? It is the atheist who is fair and kind to everyone who is using a boy scout strategy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Attraction of Christianity
Christians are lashed to their faith, not by a personal trainer relationship with Jesus, reasons, beauty, truth… but by a terror in the back of the mind, that, crazy as it sounds, Jehovah may torment them for eternity just for failing to believe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The craziest, dirtiest, stupidest, greediest, bigoted, cruelest, most ignorant people I have ever encountered were Christian. They are obsessed with blood and sacrifice. Even if I suspected they were right, I could not bring myself to join them. They are just too revolting. It would be like going to live in a pig sty.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Have you ever noticed how Christians avoid debating the truth of their articles of faith? Like cuttlefish, they sometimes emit a cloud of twaddle, simulating insanity, hoping you will give up on them. It’s as though they suspect you are right, but believe it would be wicked to abandon their faith.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity borrows its morality from desert dwellers who lived 3000 years ago, who practised animal and human sacrifice. This makes as much sense as basing your moral code on that of the Aztecs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Babies are born bigots. Most of them grow out of it if religion does not retard their development.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians claim Jesus watches over children as they sleep, yet if they abandoned their children, even fellow Christians would condemn them as unfit parents.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bach wasted most of his life writing noodling boring Jesus-Musik.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bach the Prostitute
The best music in the world by Bach, Mozart and Handel was written to sell Christianity. That’s like discovering Nureyev did ads for Kentucky Fried Chicken.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bach, Salesman for God
Bach and Mozart poured their hearts out writing religious music. It is used to this day to help sell religion. I wonder if they had known they were aiding a giant con what sort of music they would have written.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Backing the Wrong Horse
I wonder what percentage of Christians now realise they backed the wrong horse, but are too embarrassed to admit it?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The most backward countries of the world are the most religious, usually Christian or Islamic. Ironically it is the west who forced Christianity on those nations. They took it seriously. The west now ignores nearly every single biblical commandment. The most backward countries are the ones who execute people simply for being attracted to the same sex, again a gift from Christianity. Since in the west created this mess, surely it is up to us to help alleviate it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
India is sooo backward. How backward is it? Catholics there had the state arrest Sanal Edamaruku. He had debunked a phony Catholic miracle, a weeping statue, that was actually getting its tears from a leaking toilet. The clergy were knowingly serving this contaminated water to the faithful and wanted to keep up the scam.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
42% of the population of Swaziland are infected with HIV (Human Immuno-deficiency Virus). This is the worst in the world. Swaziland is a very Christian country, that even goes so far as to believe in the divine right of kings and that women are fully subject to men. In particular, women must defer to men on whether to wear condoms.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bad Catholic, Bad Catholic
The Catholic church: it is not just wrong, it’s bad.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There are 60,000 gods. Most people dismiss 59,999 of them without a second glance. Your odds of picking the right none are pretty bad, even worse if you assume none of them are a good approximation to the real god. As an atheist, I find two things utterly baffling about believers:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- that they are so sure their chosen god exists, without evidence.
- that they are so sure none of the other gods exist, without even a cursory glance.
When I debate Christians I often say to myself, They can’t be serious. They surely don’t really believe this nonsense. What are they up to?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- They are just having fun jerking my chain.
- They are con artists trolling for people of subnormal intelligence to cheat like the Hovinds and the Grahams.
- They make a lot of money saying this nonsense to stupid Christians who want to be flattered. They are basically entertainers who say outrageous things. They are like a religious Rush Limbaugh.
- They are mentally ill. They are seriously deluded. Perhaps they have a drug problem.
- Maybe their parents did something really nasty to them as kids which has effectively burnt out their brains.
- They don’t believe what they say and often do not even understand what they say; they just parrot it. However, they believe strongly this is what a good Catholic/JW etc. is required to profess.
- They don’t believe this crap, but they think it would be a good thing if other people did.
- It is a hypnotic induction.
- It is like interspecies communication. What they say makes utterly no sense. It is not just that I disagree, much of it sounds like gibberish. They speak in something that sounds something like English, but in terms of having meaning, it might as well be gibbon.
Bait and Switch
Debating Christians can be so frustrating. To them, the question is Christianity true? and does believing in Christianity make you feel good? are the exact same question. You ask them a question about Christianity being true and they answer with a statement about Christianity making them feel good. Maybe what they are trying to say is Christianity may not be true, but it makes me feel good.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bait and Switch
Evidence for a intelligent designer who tweaked the universal constants is not evidence at all for the god Jehovah who demonstrates not even the most primitive knowledge of cosmology and who is preoccupied with human sex.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bait and Switch
I have been watching a number of YouTube debates between Christians and atheists. I notice that Christian debaters are very fond of a bait and switch tactic. It goes like this. The Christian makes an argument of the form:
- The universe blows my mind. It must have had a designer.
- The universe needs a cause. The only thing that can provide a cause that does not need a cause itself (because it is magically exempt) is god.
- If there were no god, we would have no objective morality. We would be on our own to decide right and wrong just as we decide laws. That would be awful (but surely nowhere near as awful as some other facts of existence, like mosquitos). Therefore god exists.
They then declare victory in debate and grandiosely claim therefore:
- Christianity is the one true religion. The rest are false. We don’t even need to examine them to know this.
- Jesus was the son of god.
- Jesus rose from the dead.
- Prayer works reliably.
Even if you concede their arguments, their conclusions do not follow.
It seems to me possible a god could exist yet every single religion, including Christianity, badly missed the mark in describing him since he felt the universe itself was a clear enough message and any revelation would be twisted or misused to sow dissension. I see no reason to believe at least one religion had to get it right. All of their stories sound like myths, not in the least even pretending to be factual knowledge about how the world works.
There is also the matter of disproving the truth of Judaism and Islam who lay claim or the trademarked Jehovah as well. You also have the tiny matter of which flavour of Christianity is true: the Catholics, the Mormons, the Anglicans, the Baptists, the Seventh Day Adventists, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Coptics, The Greek Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox… They all claim the others are heretics.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Balance of Male and Female
Parents who interfere with the equal balance of male and female babies are condemning their children to a much lower chance of finding a life partner.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Banned in Boston
In Boston it is illegal to put up a poster saying Religions are fairy tales for adults.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) source
Christian whackos in a number of states are banning contraception by redefining a person to include a fertilised egg. This is insane. The population of earth is exploding. Only if we limit population do we have any chance at all of avoiding massive famines and global war. Even bears and deer have the sense to limit the number of offspring.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In Canada the government suppressed the first nations people by making it illegal for them to dance their traditional dances. It sounds absurd that the government would interfere that way, but back then Christians attempted to stop everyone from dancing and impose their sour view of life on everyone.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If the aim of the church is to maximise the congregation, banning divorce is a strange way to do it. Divorced couples don’t have more babies . Remarried ones do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In 2014-09, the British decided to ban quite a large number of sexual acts in pornographic films including: female ejaculation, spanking and face sitting. No justification explaining the need for the measures is available. Presumably, there is some prude in power who finds these particular acts disgusting, who imagines he is the honourary mother of all Britons and who thinks his god put him in charge of British pornography.
I can’t think of any argument for banning harmless acts. Of course, you could at least make a case for banning harmful ones, e.g. bareback sex, needle sharing, extreme stretching leading to an emergency room visit afterwards, rape, use of firearms, simulated snuff, overeating or smoking on the grounds emulating the actors would harm someone.
Even when there is a clear harm from viewing something, you have to think twice about banning it. With fantasy life blocked, the porn aficionado with a smoking fetish, for example, will turn to real life or black market porn sources. As Napoléon observed One should never forbid what one lacks the power to prevent.
Further, you must build a logical case for banning some activity in porn films, such as simulated snuff, but permitting it in family-rated films.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
According to the Gospel of John, John the Baptist baptised Jesus at Bethany in the Jordan River near where it flows into the Dead Sea. The site is a filthy sewer. I find it strange that Christians over the ages would not have bothered to take care of this site. Perhaps it was always thus and no one would ever have thought of bathing there. Even in the second century, the spot had been lost, and they debated about where it should be. They could have been simply looking for a plausible site to use to embellish their fictitious story of Jesus.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Barack the Antichrist
Right wing Christians assure me that Barack Obama is the Antichrist. How do they know? He did the thing Jesus would most disapprove of: heal the sick too poor to pay the doctors.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Barbie Doll Beheader
The god Jehovah is as ludicrous as a religion made up by five year olds who threaten their little friends that they will chop the heads off their Barbie dolls in a sakerryfice.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Bargain Between the Church and Pedophiles
The churches make a bargain with the pedophiles. The church says We will cover for you and provide you with an endless supply of obedient victims if you dedicate your life to spreading the faith professionally.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bargaining with God
When someone claims he has made a bargain with God, consider that he made up all the conditions and penalties, that he has no evidence that his god accepted the bargain, or that his god even exists. His belief that he was able to coerce the creator of the universe into taking time out of his busy schedule to make a private deal with him shows delusions of grandeur. Its even nuttier than claiming to have made such deals with Bill Gates.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Barking Mad Christians
How do you tell a barking mad Christian from a merely insane one? Tell them some of the hundreds of logical consistencies in the Noah’s ark story then ask them if they still think it is literally true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bash the Victim
There was a series of gang rapes in a Bolivian, Christian, Methodist colony. The rapists drugged the victims unconscious, so that the women remembered nothing of the event. The church had taught women to blame themselves for this event. The women proclaimed God was punishing them for not being sufficiently diligent in offerings and other churchly services. Because of church indoctrination, they felt obligated to forgive the rapists, even though the rapists made no apology or compensation. The rapists turned out to be a band of Methodists, living within the colony. Methodist rapists is pretty high on the hypocrisy meter. Mind you one vigilante group buried a suspect alive along with the corpse of his victim.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) source
Basis of Government
You don’t have a right to base law on lies, on statistics you just made up or on fiction. In other words, you have no right to try to impose your religious beliefs on others by building them into the law.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religions are by definition irrational — batshit crazy actually. If they were logical, rational and had evidence to support them they would be science, not religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Be Nice To Christians
Christians are just atheists before they have had a mindchange operation. Play fair with them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Be a Sheep?
Christians often use the metaphor that sheep who blindly follow will go to heaven where more independent goats will go to hell. This whole idea of trying to persuade people not to think is the sort of thing a con man would do. If Christianity had the genuine article, an inerrant document written by god, they would demand everyone read it and thoroughly check it out. It would be an irresistible recruiting tool, sort of like the old Timex takes a licking keeps on ticking commercials.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Jehovah is scary because of Hollywood special effects, especially technology to make voices sound more imposing. Yet Jehovah could be more accurately described as an undetectable, evil, perverted, bearded fairy who lives on a cloud. Without the grandiose title of god he does not seem nearly so imposing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Becoming a Christian?
Let us say you become a Christian. Bit by bit you will come to notice how superior you are to ordinary people. You will start meddling in other people’s lives. You will start criticising others who don’t live up to your high standards. After all, you have the answers and they don’t. You don’t feel guilty about your nagging. You are doing them a favour. People might suck up to you to get you off their backs, but they would rather you were not around.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Begging for God
This idea of begging for money for god makes no sense. Allegedly god created the entire universe. If he wanted something, he could just create it by saying the right magic word. Obviously, the money is not really for god, but for someone who fancies himself an official agent, but they all tell the same lie, pretending the money is for god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Behaviour When Unsure
The difference between a Christian and a scientist, is that when a scientist does not know for certain, he says I don’t know, whereas the Christian, when he has absolutely no clue, makes up some BS and claims it is absolute truth with absolute certainty. It is basically a matter of differing honesty. The funny thing is, when the scientist says I don’t know, the Christian reacts as if the scientist had just farted. Christians think it wicked to ever admit you do not know. Every crack of unknowing must be patched with bullshit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If people are afraid, they most commonly use two basic two approaches to handle it:
- false reassurance
Religion is a type (2) approach to convince people that magic spells and incantations will protect them from harm.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Being a Hero
Most children fantasise about heroically rescuing someone from drowning, fire or other disaster. As an adult, by donating a trivial amount of money, they can heal blindness, cure disease, prevent starvation, provide shelter etc., but they invariably throw the opportunity away, instead donating to churches which is effectively paying dues to a private club.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Belief Despite Evidence
Christians often go their whole lives without doubting the childhood stories of Santa Claus or his older brother Jesus, despite ample empirical evidence that praying for a pony does not work.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Belief in God
When people say they believe in god, they don’t usually mean they consider the preponderance of the evidence leads them to conclude with probability greater than 0.5 that god exists. They mean there might be a one in a million chance that some supernatural bastard will torture them for eternity. They simply can’t dismiss that possibility.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Belief in God ⇒ Dysfunction
Sociologists have found more dysfunctional a society, the higher will be the belief in god. When you can’t succeed in the real world, you grasp at straws. And further, the higher the degree of religion, the higher the dysfunction. Religion interferes with science, creates social tensions and makes people give up trying to improve this life.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Why Evolution is True
Belief in Hell
Why do people believe in hell?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- because it is so scary they don’t want to take the chance on ignoring it, no matter how ridiculous it is. See Pascal’s Wager.
- they were told it existed when they were a toddler and Mom said Believing is hell is a prime directive. Never change it.
- they have no exposure to any of the 60,000 other religions that make similar silly claims.
- they hang out with people who claim to believe in hell.
Belief in Lies
If there were a headline that said Belief in lies down 25% or Belief in superstition down 25% people would cheer. But if it said Belief in religion down 25% which means almost the same thing, many people would wring their hands.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Belief In the Not No
Religion is the study of why people believe things that are patently not so.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Belief You Are God
Certain types of brain damage can cause a person to think they are god — that they are omnipotent. Oddly, the first time they try to levitate a glass of water and fail does nothing to dispel the illusion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The mind is a belief-proving machine. Once a belief gets a foothold, the mind tends to seek out confirming evidence and ignore counter evidence. This affects everyone, believers and non-believers alike. That is why you need a discipline like science to force you to keep considering all the evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Believing Despite the Evidence
Many Christians admit there is no evidence for the existence of god and plenty of evidence there is no god. They make a virtue out of believing in god in the face of the counter evidence. It takes effort to believe the highly improbable and they are proud of their effort. To me it sounds like someone expressing pride that there were able, through great effort, to believe they could fly like Peter Pan.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Believing in Super Man
The movies let you pretend for a couple of hours to be Lois Lane or Jimmy Olsen, buddies with Superman, who can be counted on to bail you out of any conceivable trouble. Christians are so enamoured of the fantasy that they frantically lie to each other and persecute non-believers, to help convince themselves a similar Superman story it is really true, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If god is beneficent, why hid he repeatedly wipe out nearly all life on earth in hideous catastrophes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Benign God Invented Predator/Prey?
For most creatures, life is about constantly evading predators and/or constantly evading starvation. The strange thing is, so many people are convinced a benign deity deliberately designed things this way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Best Before Date For Truth
When you look back even 200 years at what was considered certain knowledge, it makes you wonder how much of what we hold true today will survive over the long term.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If I wanted help with personal problems, the last person I would turn to would be a sanctimonious child molester.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
The military junta in Argentina swept into homes in the middle of the night and took the parents off for torture and death. They took the babies or forced pregnant mothers to give birth, changed the baby’s names and raised them as little right wingers. The kids sometimes discovered how the people they called mom and dad had betrayed them and killed their parents. I would imagine a similar rage and sense of betrayal happens when children find out their parents lied to them to sell them into Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Beyond Freedom of Religion
Freedom of religion was a momentous step in stopping religious fanatics from forcing their demented notions on others. However, we need to go further and gradually eliminate religion altogether. Holding onto it out of tradition is as wrong headed as holding onto public hangings or witch dunking. It amounts to cherishing obsolete science, primitive barbarities and ancient lies. People have a right to do crazy things only so far as they don’t hurt others. Christians don’t fit that criterion by a long shot.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
People who imagine they have been possessed by the god Jehovah, have a sobering realisation to face: it is actually just bi-polar disorder.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians believe in a bible that bears no ressemblance whatsoever to the actual one. If atheists could convince all Christians to read the bible cover to cover, Christianity would soon disappear from the earth. One of the main reasons people become atheist is they read the entire bible and are horrified, disgusted and repelled. Christianity persists because Christianity in practice is not bible-based and hence has no claim whatsover to be divinely guided.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Biblical Con Men
The writers of the bible demand:
- That you believe bizarre impossible stories without any evidence for them.
- That you give them money.
- That you don’t need to worry at all about your behaviour, so long as you follow the first two rules.
These are not the rules of a wise creator. They are rules of unscrupulous con men. Even if there is a god, the bible has absolutely nothing to do with him.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Biblical Fictional Characters
How do you explain the lack of archaeological evidence to support the existence of Moses, David or Jesus? The two most probably explanations are either they never existed, or not many people at the time considered them important. Either way, the modern day characters are fictional.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The gospel of Mark was written 40 years after Jesus allegedly died. Matthew was written 60 years later. Luke was written 70 years later. John was written 80 years later. The authors were all anonymous. None ever met Jesus. They were not apostles. The gospels were named after apostles somewhat later. The earliest fragment comes from 125 AD a bit of Greek from the Gospel of John.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The consensus of biblical scholars believe:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Genesis and Exodus and are not historical.
- There is no trace of Solomon or David.
- There is no trace of a historical Jesus.
- There is no trace of Moses or the exodus.
Big and Little Religions
There are two kinds of religions: bullies that kill people and use various types of force or threat to gain new members or torment non-members and the small ones that don’t . I can put up with some nutty sect that leaves out dishes of honey at the foot of the garden for the fairies, but the first type, they really have to go. This planet cannot survive them and their crazy notions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Big Bang
The big bang was not an explosion. It was the rapid expansion of space itself, smoothly and faster than the speed of light. It happened everywhere, even the spot where your heart is now. The expansion of the space of the universe continues to this day, even at the spot where your heart is now. We know this by looking at the microwave background radiation from the dawn of time, by examining the Doppler shift of light from distant galaxies and from the abundance of helium and other light elements that only could have been created in the super heat of the big bang.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Big Bang
Stephen Hawking’s latest thinking about the big bang takes quantum mechanics into account. He says the universe had no beginning, yet it did not exist forever. Quantum mechanics always screws with your mind like this. Your intuition breaks down because the universe works by totally different laws on the ultra-small scale. Consider, for example, that a circle is not infinite and it does not have a beginning.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Big Bang
The universe started out as a tiny black hole. There is no time in a black hole. Nothing changes. Another way of looking at it, time passes infinitely slowly. There was no time in which a creator god could have existed or created. Stephen Hawking on why there is no god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Big Ethical Question
How much does the suffering of others matter?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Big Lie
Religion is infuriating not because it is blithering nonsense, but because it is a carefully constructed lie intended to con the poor out of their money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Big Miracle
There is no even mythical witnesses to Jesus’s resurrection. That is a really thin possibility.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Big Morality Issues
Religions tend to focus on petty thou shalt nots. This allows believers to ignore the two big issues of morality — what do you do with your time and what you do you do with your wealth to contribute to your planet?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Humans have a failing. The tend to became narrowly focused and miss the big picture. Most commonly the pursuit of money leads people to destroy the environment and kill their fellows. Religion also causes people to ignore the evidence what they are doing is suicidal.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Biggest Con
Once a man convinces you that he speaks for a god, he has you by the balls. You will give him all your money, without resistance. You will hand over your wife. You will let him rape your children. You will kill whom he tells you to. That power over you is a great temptation to anyone holding. If anyone claims to have a special pipeline to a god, he is either deluded or a con man. Be aware especially of people who use costumes, ritual magic or eccentric ways of speaking to bamboozle you.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Biggest Insincerity
There is no insincerity as phony as Jesus joy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Biggest Lie
The biggest lie believed in North America is the existence of Jehovah. From that monster lie, thousands of other lies and evils flow, like creationism, the persecution of homosexuals and the meddling in the end-of-life decisions of others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Biggest Source of Lies
What divides humanity? Lies and untruths. What is the biggest source of lies and untruth? Religion. If the world is ever going to work together, it will require dismantling the worst lies and untruths of each religion especially those use to justify stealing resources from or killing people of a different religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Biggest Source of Lies
What divides humanity? Lies and untruths. You don’t find people divided over a common absolute truth like 2 + 2 = 4. What is the biggest source of lies and untruth? Religion (with politics a close second). If the world is ever going to work together, it will require dismantling the worst lies and untruths of each religion especially those used to justify stealing resources from or killing people of a different religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bigotry learned from religion is still bigotry. It is no more excusable than bigotry learned any other way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
To the Bigots of the Anglican Church
You justify spitting on gays, preaching god hates them, that they should be killed, treating as second class citizens all because the bible calls for killing them. But you conveniently ignore the bible also calls for butchering Sunday shoppers, unmarried mothers, non-virgin brides, people who eat lobster or rabbit, being an Amelek or one of dozens of other ethnicities… What is the matter with you that you can see how idiotic the bible is in these cases, but not in the case of gays?
The fact the church has officially and with eyes wide open embraced bigotry proves the church is hateful and obsolete. It is time to close the doors.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bigots Don’t Like Being Called Bigots
I discovered to my surprise that bigots feel offended when you call them bigots. The religious promoting hate don’t think of themselves as bigots. They see themselves as superior people holding superior wisdom. It is important to let them know not everyone agrees with their self assessment.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bigots Marching to the Grave
Christian bigotry is primarily promoted by people born prior to 1945. Thank-fully that generation are now dying off and taking their bigotry with them to the grave.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Birth Control Does Not Work
Why does the pope endorse only birth control methods that don’t work? The only way to make new Catholics is to indoctrinate babies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Over ¾ of North Carolina Republicans believe President Obama is not a citizen of the USA. Granted 8% of them don’t know that Hawaii is part of the USA. There is no evidence of any kind to support this view. There is plenty to disprove it. The delusion survives solely because racists tell it to each other, much the way the myths of Christianity survive in a body of believers. Average and below average intelligence humans tend to believe what they believe their fellows believe. It has nothing at all to do with evidence. It works much the way dogs in a pack don’t think for themselves. They defer to the alpha leader.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Black Attraction to Religion
I am surprised that black Americans are attracted to Christianity and Islam where they are told to shut up, don’t ask questions and do what you are told. I would think they got quite enough of that during slavery and segregation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Black Church
The black church was forced on slaves to make them docile. It taught them to accept abuse in this life in hope of decent treatment in the afterlife. It is amazing anything at all good ever came from it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In the days of the US civil war, Christians bellowed Genesis 9:25-27 and Ephesians 6:3 to prove slavery was not only righteous but mandatory.
The black slaves were conned into accepting Christianity to make them subservient. In Ephesians 6:5 God commands them Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ.
Christianity was a tool of oppression. Ironically, today, black Americans cling to the church even more tenaciously than whites, perpetuating the con.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Black Stockholm Syndrome
Black people, both in America and Africa were more oppressed by the Christian church than almost anyone else. Yet, strangely, they are far more attached to it than others. Why? Slavery did two terrible things:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- It beat in the habit of bowing to authority without question.
- It killed off the most rebellious and independent.
It is quite a different thing when an Christian or atheist commits a crime and when a Christian or atheist commits a crime because their religion/philosophy commands them to. You can only blame the second on the religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Any time a Christian goes through a harrowing experience and they are later interviewed on the radio they will say something like I don’t why god let such a terrible thing happen to me. How stupid can they be! Have they never noticed that terrible things happen to good people all the time. god never intervenes. Events always take their natural course.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Blaming the Wrong People
Some Christians say Jews killed Jesus. They then use this as justification for persecuting Jews living today, who clearly could not possibly have had anything to do with the crucifixion. These Christians are brain damaged. That is as crazy as confusing a Texan killed Kennedy with all Texans are guilty of murdering Kennedy, even ones who were not born when he was assassinated.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A blasphemy law is an attempt to broaden the power of a religion by forcing non-believers to behave as if the religion were not blithering nonsense.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Blessing a Murder
You’d think the ultimate obscenity would offering a blessing to soldiers about to slaughter children, but it is common and no Christian ever complains.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If I were on a jury trying a man who had strangled some nitwit Christian who said that people in the third world should treat earthquakes and hurricanes as god’s blessings, I would unconditionally acquit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians tend to believe that blind obedience to authority is a Good Thing™ This would be true if the authority were wiser and more moral than you. But obeying someone who is corrupt is itself both cowardly and corrupt. Blind obedience is what got the Germans into such trouble under Hitler, Americans into the Viet Nam war and Christians in such trouble under a long succession of corrupt popes. I don’t mean by this you should resist direction from a loutish, stupid or corrupt police officer, only if he attempted to make you do something immoral.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Blind Worship of the Past
Blind worship of things past makes us select the worst of the medieval world to form today’s religions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Blindly Repeated Lies
Nearly everything Christians tell you to recruit you is a lie that they just blindly repeat without thought. Even when you call them on their lies, they just shout them all the louder. So the strange thing is, Christians themselves know their religion is a con based on lies, but for some reason still promote it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If it could be demonstrated with very high probability that Christianity were a dangerous delusion, would we be justified in repealing freedom of religion and pressuring Christians (and similar religiously delusional people) into treatment? To what extent should we block them from harming others with their delusions, particularly their own children? Or do we consider the right to harm others for religious motives a fundamental freedom?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine a group of teens stumbled across the rituals of a bronze age cult that did human sacrifice, animal sacrifice, ritual cannibalism, ritual blood drinking. They believed in the death penalty for even the most minor infractions of a pointless life-engrossing game, with thousands of inscrutable rules. They then started focussing their efforts on recruiting more teens. What do you think we should do? Yes, these Christians are a menace.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Without the shedding of blood, there can be no forgiveness of sin. Where did this idea come from: an Aztec blood sacrifice cult, some Hawaiian volcano cult, cannibals living on a remote Indonesian island? Nope. Christianity! The essential event in Christianity is human sacrifice. An innocent person acted as scapegoat to atone for the sins of others to propitiate a sadistic god. This event is commemorated by literal blood drinking and cannibalism (if you believe in the miracle of transubstantiation.) If Christians ran across some Amazon tribe doing this, they would be horrified. They are numb to their own insanity because it is so familiar. This is disgusting and crazy. It should not continue, no matter how long the tradition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When a little boy is terrified of bogeymen under the bed, his parents reassure him the bogeymen are not real, but what really works is their own complete lack of fear. In a similar way, Christian adults have become frightened of an invisible, sadistic sky fairy planning to roast them alive. In addition to arguments why this fear is unfounded, we atheists must demonstrate a complete informed lack of fear in this imaginary monster.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bogeyman Under the bed
under license from toonpool.com under license from toonpool.com
Adult Christians like to taunt me that the god Jehovah must exist because I cannot prove he does not. I would like to show why that logic is fallacious.
son: Daddy, there is a bogey man under the bed.
father: No no, that is just your imagination. Here, let me show you with a flashlight.
son: But bogey men are invisible.
father: I see. I am waving a broom around all under the bed. I don’t feel any bogeymen.
son: But bogey men are transcorporeal.
father: Where’d you learn a strange word like that? What does it mean?
son: It means brooms go right through ’em.
father: Ok then, if bogey men are invisible and transcorporeal, how did you find out one was under the bed in the first place?
son: I heard a squeaking noise.
father: But everyone knows bogeyman don’t squeak. They make sort of breathy roaring noise like this, ahhrrr.
son: But it is written, He’s there, Dad, I promise. I can feel him with my soul strings.
father: Who written it? you? soul strings Who you been hanging out with, Oprah?
son: No, its in a book Ralphie owns.
son: Dad, why won’t you believe me? Why do you reject the living truth? Why do you hate me? Why have you forsaken me? Why dost thou abandon me to a fate worse than death?
father: What have you been reading? I am not harming you or abandoning you. You are just letting your imagination run away with you. I will sleep in the arm chair over there. If any bogey man attacks you I will come to your rescue and whack him with a baseball bat. I’ll leave the constellation turtle night light on. Now go to sleep.
son: But Dad. He’s indomitable. He will rip off your appendages. He will inject you with steroids. I don’t want to die…
Jehovah is just the adult version of an imaginary bogeyman under the bed. Christians too need help getting over their terror.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is very hard to reason a child out of his fear of a bogeyman under the bed. It is very hard to reason an adult out of her fear of spiders and snakes if her mother taught her when she was little that they were all very dangerous.
It almost impossible to reason a Christian out of their fear of Jehovah or a Muslim out of their fear of Allah. Humans have something equivalent to ROM (Read Only Memory) in computers. Anything mom tells them at a young age gets burned in, almost unerasably.
This is a Darwinian survival mechanism for parents to ensure strict compliance with any wisdom they consider of prime importance to survival. (Parents need to be careful about scaring toddlers off sex entirely for their entire lives, by accidentally triggering this mechanism, meaning only to discourage sex play, similarly for fearing strangers.)~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Oddly, Christians would sue Pfizer if they found out it had sold them a drug to cure cancer that never been tested and turned out to be totally useless. But they would never dream of even asking a faith healer to return the $1000 he conned for a proven useless healing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If I were to start collecting money on behalf of the Hudson’s Bay Company without first getting their permission, I could expect to cool my heels in jail, but if I collected on behalf of some god, without His permission, I will be applauded as a virtuous person, no matter how I spent the money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What kind of morality can you expect from a Catholic who believes that by confessing to any conceivable crime, dropping an offering in the box and saying a few boring prayers as penance, it effectively erases the crime and all its negative consequences, and grants him cosmic forgiveness to boot?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
This is effectively the scuzzi argument the devil makes in the original movie version of Bedazzled.
Bogus Papal Vote
Almost nobody noticed how phony the election of Pope Francis was. Only 115 people had a vote and over half of them were appointed by Ratzinger. That is the sort of stunt you would have expected of Saddam.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bogus Religious Morality
Religions claim they are the only ones capable of speaking about morality. Where do they get their information? They find some illiterate guy who heard voices who ranted in a desert thousands of years ago and take whatever he said without question no matter how silly, e.g. that eating lobster is unbelievably wicked, that mixed fibres are exceedingly wicked, that you must not cut your hair or beard ever, that you must use separate cook wear and dishes for milk and meat. That’s not morality. That is obsessive-compulsive disorder.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The miracle of transubstantiation where a cracker allegedly turns into the body of Christ and a glass of wine turns into his blood, is a lie, humbug, a fraud. How do you know? Nobody can tell the difference between the untransformed and transformed food, not even the pope. They are absolutely identical. Nothing happens. There is no change/transformation of any kind.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bogus Why Questions
When someone asks you a why question or a what-is-the-purpose-of question, they are often giving you a veiled command to read the mind of a non-existent god. It is much safer to insist on how questions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Boils of Christianity
I see my task as pricking society’s boils of Christianity to let the pus drain.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Boko Haram are worst sort of fundamentalists. They got a nutty idea into their heads that education is bad and that girls should be maltreated and further that they should kill or kidnap anyone who disagrees with them. What else can do you with a group that antisocial but exterminate them?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In India, any book that fundamentalist Hindus or Muslims don’t like is banned. They think they have the right to tell others what they may read. Surely then they think others should have the right to censor their reading material.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Everyone is born an atheist. Then, most of the time, they are brainwashed into some religion while they are still too young to resist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Todd Stiefel interview
You have saved us by the shedding of your eternal blood is an inscription on the wall of a temple dedicated to the worship of Mithras. This notion of blood and killing and sacrifice is part of the psychotic stew that makes up nearly all religious belief.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Both Fear and Love
Christians demand that you simultaneously fear and love an undetectable god. That is impossible. The intent is to keep those conned in a state of endless guilt.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Both Love And Fear Jehovah?
Christians demand that I simultaneously love and fear their god. The only person who could do that is one with Stockholm syndrome.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bottom of the Totem Pole
Christians fancy themselves the most virtuous people in the world. If they knew how low I hold them on the ethical totem pole, they would be shocked.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Arguments for the existence of god are meaningless, idiotic word-salad miasmas. Analysing them is like sifting through their proponents’ bowel movements to perform divinations.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Tom Monaghan, founder of Domino’s Pizza, has used his wealth to promote various evil religious right schemes. For this reason, I would never consider buying a pizza there.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Noah’ flood reached the top of Mount Everest, that would have mixed all the ocean and fresh waters on earth. Would not all the water creatures of earth have perished from being in brackish water?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bragging About Dad
Where did these grandiose notions about gods come from, e.g. omnipotence, omniscience, perfect love, perfect virtue etc.? I think they came from ancient versions of the equivalent to little boys bragging about their fathers, My god can beat up your god., So what? My god can see a billion cubits., Well my god can see a gazillion cubits., Well my god can see forever, so there!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bragging About God
Whenever I hear people bragging about the alleged magical powers of their imaginary deities, it reminds me of little boys bragging about the alleged superpowers of their fathers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Christian parents were blocked from brainwashing their kids with the Christian religion, before they were old enough to understand what nonsense it is, Christianity would be extinct within a generation. That is why Christians fight tooth and nail for the right to indoctrinate other people’s children without their parent’s permission.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If I imagine myself as a baby, not knowing anything about anything, I think I would strongly object to my parents traumatising me with threats of being burned alive as part of their introducing me to their religious beliefs. I can’t imagine any baby welcoming that sort of abuse. I don’t think we should tolerate it, even if we have for the last three millennia.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I speculate that there are mechanisms in the brain to keep you from getting too elated or too miserable. When you die these may break down, leaving you to float off into elation or misery. This is perhaps how the heaven/hell myth got started.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Why do religions brand their children with irreversible circumcision and female genital mutilation? To brand them irreversibly as members of that religion. To make it impossible for them to leave. It is thus a crime to do these brandings without informed consent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Break Your Mother’s Back
A child who obsessively avoids stepping on cracks will likely take up obsessive praying as an adult.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Breed and be Celibate
The Catholic church is schizophrenic. They scourge their members to breed even when the children are the result of rape, even when the pregnancy risks the mother’s life, even when they have ten kids already, even when they don’t have the enough money to feed and clothe the kids they already have, even when the earth already has ten times the population than it can sustain. On the other hand, they demand the priests remain celibate, except for molesting and raping children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The habit of Muslims and some Christians to breed like rabbits will destroy the world just as surely as a nuclear war. We have to stop them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
With the discovery of oil came the creation of tractors, fertilisers and a water pumps that allowed sufficient food for all. The Pope and other religious leaders acted with extreme selfishness and urged their followers to breed uncontrollably so that their church could overwhelm the others. Now here were are with 9 times as many people as the earth can support without oil and the oil supplies are beginning to dwindle. What those religious leaders did will result in such massive suffering such that no imaginable punishment is sufficient.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Brights vs Supersbrights : people who don’t believe in god.
supers : people who believe in the supernatural, e.g. miracles and god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bringing A Nice Boy Home To Dinner
When their son brings home a nice boy to meet a Christian family for Sunday dinner, they panic, even though it is the exact same thing they are happy to have their daughter do. There is nothing inherently wicked in the act itself. It is not like murder that is wrong no matter who does it. It horrifies them like the idea of men doing the laundry.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bringing A Nice Girl Home To Dinner
When their daughter brings home a nice girl to meet a Christian family for Sunday dinner, they panic, even though it is the exact same thing they are happy to have their son do. There is nothing inherently wicked in the act itself. It is not like murder that is wrong no matter who does it. It horrifies them like the idea of a woman changing a spark plug.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Broad Application of God’s Existence Arguments
Any philosophical argument for the existence of one’s team god, e.g. the god Jehovah, serves equally well as an argument for someone else’s team god, e.g. Ahura Mazda, or for many gods. That the god of the universe would favour some tiny group of people strikes me as the epitome of conceit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Bronze Age Fecundity
In the iron age, settlements were in constant danger of dying out from insufficient birth rate, accidents, disease and war. Naturally their religions stress maximal fecundity. Today, we have the opposite problem, but unfortunately the bronze-age religions we cling to still have not yet noticed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Brutal Competition
If a frog has 9000 eggs, only 2 will survive to reproduce. In the long run, on average, this is true for every species, even humans. There is a brutal winnowing based on competition and a struggle to survive. What kind of deity would create a world where nearly every creature born suffers and fails?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
BS Come Lately
At the last supper, Jesus handed out bread and wine, clearly symbolically in a ceremony of remembrance of him. It was not until the 13th century that Aquinas sold the BS of communion being some magic transformation into the literal body and blood of Christ.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Christians truly believed that a wafer converts into a bloody slice of the ancient corpse of Jesus Christ, surely they would insist on cooking it first before partaking in the cannibalism ceremony.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Because religions are based on BS, there is a temptation to sling BS about the BS.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Buddhists claim to have preserved one of Gautama Buddha’s teeth. If this tooth is genuine, some day, DNA analysis will tell us in microscopic detail what the Buddha was like.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Buddhists have a more plausible theory of the afterlife. It includes all beings, not just one special conceited species — man. They also have some weak evidence to support it. The Christians just say Have faith without offering even the tiniest shred of evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I am astonished that Christians treat their god with such contempt, ordering him about, god, grant me strength to… or god, bless America!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a child is still inconsolable four days after the death of her pet rabbit I could excuse someone telling a lie about bunny heaven, but if grown people tell each other lies about death being unreal or a secret boon, it is beneath human dignity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Burden of Proof
Atheists will often try to convince creationists that they have the burden of proof because they are the ones making the crazy assertion about an undetectable deity. But this is self defeating. Whomever wishes to convince others has to take the burden of proof upon themselves. To scientists, proof and certainty belongs only in the realm of mathematics. To lawyers, proof means something else entirely, evidence that indicates guilt beyond reasonable doubt. What we really using in debates is evidence and arguments, not proof.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Burial is not necessarily a religious ritual. You might bury corpses just to get away from the smell. You might build a small monument at the grave site to help people remember the deceased. There is no requirement for a belief in the afterlife.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Burn After Reading
At the end of the holy book The Book of the Law: Liber Al Vel Legis by Aleister Crowley is the suggestion that it would be wise to burn the book after first reading. Why would he say that?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- To increase book sales.
- To stop people from looking closely at what incoherent nonsense the book was.
- To create an aura of magic and mystery.
Burning to Death
Have you ever seen a crime drama when the villain burns someone to death then gets a quasi-sexual pleasure watching them scream? This based on Christians. If you ever debate a Christian, within the first five minutes they will threaten you with eternal torment being burned alive. They get animated and excited contemplating your suffering. Christianity is a sick, sadistic cult. Its members should submit themselves for deprogramming. To see the effect in spades, watch videos of the Westboro Baptist Church.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The early church, at the instigation of Emperor Constantine, burned all holy gospels but four. This would be like Walt Disney Inc. using their legal muscle to eliminate all variations of Sleeping Beauty but theirs, then promoting it as a literal true story.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Business as Usual
When you study the historical behaviour of the Catholic Church, you discover that the current pedophile scandal is business as usual. It behaves far more like a crime family than a church.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
But Prayer Does Not Work
Even Dr. Richard Dawkins has said he would pray, if there were ever any evidence found it worked. There hasn’t been so far.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Many religions wrap the dead in white cloth. They look like giant chrysalises. I wonder if the original intention was they, like butterflies, should awaken from the dead to a glorious metamorphosed existence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Not even all Christians buy the story of Adam and Eve as literally true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Caligula and Jehovah
The Roman Emperor Caligula commanded his legions to collect sea shells to prepare for the invasion of Britain. He was clearly bonkers, but his legions obeyed because they feared him. Christians are similar in the idiotic things they do commanded by their insane, cruel and not-even-extant god and for the same reason — cowering fear. Their groveling before a corrupt, imaginary god is so contemptible and so absurd.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Calling Out To God
Given God’s reputation for being such a prude, I wonder why so many people call out to him during sex.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A local newspaper announced that a local woman had credited her faith in god with her ability to endure a stepfather slitting the throat of her five year old daughter. Wouldn’t she be asking herself why her god refused to intervene? Why did her god single her out for this tragedy? Her god refused to lift a finger in any way to help, hardly helpful. This sounds like Stockholm syndrome. What did she imagine this god was telling her that anaesthetised her?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is amazing that a known con-man like Harold Camping (born:1921-07-19 died:2013-12-15 at age:92) could raise tens of millions of dollars with a hoary end-of-the-world scam. It is as if his brain-damaged victims fell prey to the Nigerian 419 letter scam after receiving 1000 such emails and sold off all their earthly goods and wired off the proceeds. Some stupidity is so immense it begs to be exploited.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Have you ever met one of those cancer hypochondriacs? The answer to every question about every anomaly they notice about their body is It must be cancer. They remind me of those daft Christians to whom the answer to every question is It must be god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Think of those old black and white movies where cannibals put people in pot, without killing, cleaning or even undressing them. Then the cannibals dance and sing to the cannibal god. What Christians do is barely any different. I find it so hard to believe Christians are not pulling my leg when they tell me they take all of the Christian woo seriously. It is just so silly, so nonsensical.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In movies of the 1950s a popular cliché was a tribe of Africans worshipping a giant wooden idol. How could they be so stupid not to notice it was just a big wooden mask constructed by the witch doctor? But then modern Christians are even more stupid. Their object of worship does not even exist. It is invisible and does nothing. It was constructed by the priests purely of ideas. It is con, just like the emperor’s new clothes. The con appeals to vanity, just the same way. It tickles people pink to imagine the creator of the universe takes time out just for them. How important they must be!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cannot All Be Right
All 60,000 religions can’t be right, however, they can easily all be wrong since there is no evidence for any of them and they are all composed of such similar BS.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is obvious to everyone that the main reason Islam is evil is that it has no means of changing to adjust to the modern world. Christianity has exactly the same problem, only worse, since it is even older.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The gods are capricious but nature is anything but capricious. There is no sign of them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Case For Christianity
The whole case for Christianity is based on repeating lies, believing lies and ignorance of science.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Adam had not yet eaten of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, how could god very well expect Adam to know it was wicked to eat it or that it was wicked to do something god had told him not to do?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When I see a cathedral, I am overwhelmed at how much effort people will go to sell a lie.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When I was a kid, a Catholic family lived two doors down. The oldest boy would explain the facts of life to us, such as his family was going to heaven, but it was iffy for the Protestant families and very unlikely for our atheist family unless I was exceptionally well behaved. Even then, the best I could hope for was purgatory. At the time, it did not occur to me what an insufferable little prick he was being. He did this with all kind heartedness, accurately relaying the BS he had been taught. This is the same sort of BS that young Germans were taught — that they were the master race.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Normally if someone says something you disagree with, you debate the issue. If it is defamatory, and completely without merit, you might sue and let a judge decide which of you is right. But the Catholics have a completely different way of dealing with people who say things they do not like. They censor them, or in earlier times, kill them. They tortured and killed heretics. Today LifeSiteNews has banned me from their site. They don’t want to hear anything that is not 100% canonical. They even deal with reports of priests abusing children that way. The attempt to silence the whistleblowers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Catholic Crime Syndicate
The Catholic church has been a crime syndicate masquerading as a religion for at least 900 years.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Catholics condemn millions of people to death from AIDS (Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome) in Africa because they teach that using condoms makes the baby Jesus cry.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
We have allowed the church to masquerade the ultimate selfishness as a virtue. Every time they persuade a couple to spawn more than two future tithers, they are depriving some other couple of having any children at all. The earth cannot even sustain the population we have already burdened it with.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I don’t think there is much chance Pope Francis will do anything to discourage his priests from molesting children. Pedophilia has been for centuries the church’s primary recruiting perk. The church is pedophile-friendly, arranges access, covers up and arranges transfers when there is heat. It provides respectability and an excuse for lack of sexual interest in adults. It provides a non-violent way to force children into sex using terrifying threats backed by religious authority. Who but a pedophile would vow never to have sex with an adult for the rest of their life? The Catholic church is already having a rough time recruiting priests. The church is no longer the safe respectable haven for pedophiles it once was. If Francis put a stop to the molestation, the church would wither from lack of priestly recruits.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Catholic church is spinning its fight with Obama over full health care that includes contraception. The church claims it is an imposition on their religious freedom if they are prevented from interfering with their employee’s access to contraception. They are the ones violating individual freedoms. How is their freedom in any way impaired? It is not as though anyone is being forced to use contraception.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Catholics Imposing Superstitions on Others, Again
The Catholic church is complaining it is not being permitting to ram its religious superstitions down the throats of others. Nobody is in any way interfering with what Catholics do vis a via abortion or contraception. Their claim that a single cell should have the rights of a full grown human makes no sense without the goofy notion of souls possessing single cells like little demons. There is zero evidence for them. It is thus highly improper to force this superstition down the throats of non-believers, much less put skeptics in jail or kill them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cause of Crop Circles
It would please me if it turned out crop circles were formed by some agent other than man, but I don’t run about claiming absolute proof that this is indeed so, when I have almost no evidence, much less proof. Further, I don’t call for the persecution of non-believers. I ask the same courtesy from the holders of religious beliefs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cause of WWIII (World War III)
There is one thing we know for certain about the person who will start WWIII. They will believe a disembodied voice in his ear commanding him to was the voice of this favourite imaginary deity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Caving To Atheists
Christians complain that if they followed the constitution, and banned public prayer in schools, that would be equivalent to teaching atheism in schools. No it wouldn’t. In the name of peace, there simply is no discussion or exercise of religion, pro or con. If atheists truly had their way, the children would be taught what a con Christianity and Islam are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) and Religion
Intellectuals at the CBC keep dragging moribund religious ideas back on stage like a cat presenting a dead mouse hoping this time the listeners will find them acceptable.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
CBC Peddles Christianity
The CBC routinely promotes quackery as medicine and fiction as history. I refer to its attempts to sell Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Celebrating War Crimes
The height of hypocrisy is, on Easter, NPR (National Public Radio) celebrating US soldiers returning from Afghanistan. These soldiers killed an average of one civilian each. They were not defending the USA, but stealing Afghanistan’s natural resources. The makes them each war criminals guilty of a capital offense, the same as Nazis hanged at Nuremberg, not heroes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Omaha Coalition of Reason put up a billboard that said Don’t believe in God? Join the club. Christians wanted it taken down. They are such control freaks and so insecure in their faith, that they want to censor even knowledge of the existence of anyone who disagrees with them. Further, they presume they have the right to abrogate the constitutional freedom of assembly to non-Christians. Their belief that they are the god Jehovah’s chosen master race makes them behave so arrogantly.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In the 1930s in America, a rabid Catholic prude named Joseph Ignatius Breen was put in charge of censorship of movies. This was a violation of church and state — imposing the beliefs of the Catholic Church on everyone.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The word censorship is often misused. It means blocking people from access to reading or seeing something. It does not mean:
- Refuting something.
- Refusing to fund it with public money.
- Refusing to display it in public space.
- Refusing to publish something. There is no way a publisher has room for everything. A publisher is free to use whatever grounds he pleases for deciding what to publish (usually what will bring the highest profit).
You have the right to show you works somewhere, not anywhere you please. However, if a newspaper routinely accepts material to distribute for a fee and they reject yours, that is censorship.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ceremonies Without Consent
I heard a CBC radio item about John Gillibrand, an Anglican priest in Wales who put his autistic son through a confirmation ceremony. I got the impression the son did not understand what was happening. Churches routinely put people through ceremonies without consent or understanding, such as christening and circumcision. Such ceremonies have a long tradition behind them, but I still think they are improper.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Certainty is an Emotion
Certainty is an emotion, like joy or anger. It has been located in the brain. The problem is people treat it as if it meant rigorously proved/tested. The sensation of certainty has little to do with truth and more with solidarity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Certainty in the Face of Zero Experience
I find it extremely odd that everyone is convinced his own religion is 100% true and all the rest are untrue even when he has zero experience with any religion but his own. His religion could well be the worst and he would have no way of telling.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Certainty Justifies the Means
Christians are so convinced they are right they can torment, bully, steal, torture and murder never once questioning whether what they are doing is acceptable. This what makes them such intractable enemies. They have no conscience. They have no respect for reason.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Certainty the Other Is Wrong
If you are a Christian, like me, you are quite sure Ganesh the elephant god of the Hindus is just a myth. If you are a Hindu, like me, you are quite sure Jehovah the sky god of the Christians is just a myth. Why do you each so clearly see why other people’s gods are myths, but not you own?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Certainty Without Evidence
Given how vast the universe is and how little of it we have explored, I find the certainty that Christians have that they are the acme of universal perfection and that the god Jehovah created whole thing solely for their delectation, the height of conceit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Championing a Religion
People champion religions, not because they believe them to be true, but because it tickles them to imagine they might be true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Change Is Inevitable
If you lived in the dark ages, it would seem that nothing could ever change, yet it did, the Renaissance eventually flowered. Similarly people living today might imagine the world must forever be run my corrupt politicians, generals and corporations.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Changes In English
Think how much English has changed over the last 1000 years. Vocabulary has changed, spellings have changed, lower case letters were added, words were borrowed from other languages, even the grammar has changed. A scholar can roughly date a phrase of English prose by studying these changes. Hebrew similarly changed over 1000 years. Even the alphabet changed. Scholars have been able to date individual phrases from various ancient documents to discover that the old testament was written and edited over a period of 1000 years by several waves of authors. The oldest part is Exodus which was originally a poem.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Changing Perception of Mormons
When the Mormons started out, there would have been consensus that they were either charlatans or delusional. Few people would dismiss them as mentally ill today, even though their beliefs have not changed, only their numbers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
American Christians no not give to charities that actually attempt to relieve suffering in the world. They give to their church, and kid themselves this is charity. Their money is spent much the way country club dues would be spent. They are spending on themselves.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Charity it not just about donating money. It is about caring what happens to other people.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a man posed as a doctor, who had no medical training, who killed multiple patients and healed none, he would be in trouble for practicing medicine without a licence. Further, he would be sued into bankruptcy. But if he invoked Jesus in any way, he would get off Scott free and be free to continue practice. It is time to close this loophole for charlatans.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the most infuriating things about Christians is even ones with just a grade 2 education consider themselves the world’s experts on anything scientific. They are so patronising and so condescending when all they are doing is pulling conjectures a four year old my have out their asses and trying to fob them off as unquestioned truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Charlemagne the Christian
Charlemagne beheaded anyone who refused to be baptised, who cremated a corpse, or who worshipped a non-Christian god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Charlie Hebdo cartoons that caused all the fuss were never published in North America. They were too obscene. The media never mentioned this. I saw them by doing a Google Image search with safe search turned off, immediately after the attacks.
The cartoons included sodomy chains and anilingus chains. These were obviously intended to be maximally offensive. The offence was not incidental. It was not merely about depicting Mohammed.
I still think no picture justifies a murder, but I also think the content of the cartoons should be known to help explain the Muslim outrage.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Charlie Hebdo Murders
The murders were incredibly stupid. Why?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- They tar the reputation of every Muslim. Nobody wants to live anywhere near someone so touchy they murder 12 people in response to a mere insult. Innocent Muslims all over the world are going to bear the backlash.
- If you make bizarre claims such as Muhammad jumped to heaven on a horse, without any evidence to back them up, you must expect ridicule.
- Neither Allah, Muhammad nor the terrorists were in the least harmed by the insult. The terrorists are making a mountain out of a molehill. I think they imagine the more outrage they show, the more devout others will think them.
- Since they show no respect for other religions, it is rather thick of them to expect others to show exaggerated respect for Islam.
- The non-Muslim world will not rest until all the perpetrators are run down.
Perhaps the most preposterous thing about Christianity is its human chauvinism. According to Christians, earth is the center of the universe and man is the center of the earth; no species has any importance other than to serve man. It is just so idiotically conceited. Only men could have made up such a self-flattering religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The unscrupulous bastards who stoop to the widest range of cheating tactics usually prevail. Karl Rove would be a classic example. Religion lets you pretend a god will give them their just deserts even if you can’t.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Wherever Christians publicly debate the existence of god, they invariably lie and cheat. I have two explanations for this:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- They know fully well that there is no god. They earn a money from the god con. This lying is just part of the overall con.
- They believe there is a god, but cannot come up with a decent reason to think so. In name of promoting truth, they lie.
Cheating on God
I have always been amused at the Orthodox Jews and their mad deliberately malfunctioning elevators for use on the Sabbath to weasel around holy prohibitions. The Muslims have that same lawyerly bent. The Qur’an forbids Muslims from charging interest on loans. They too figured out legalistic ways to cheat. They provide a property as collateral for a loan. The lender gets the rent from the property for the duration of the loan as the interest. Originally, the debtor would sell a slave to the lender. Then he would immediately buy it back, at a higher price, but payable at some date in the future. The slave acted as collateral for the loan and the difference in the two prices served as the interest.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If once an hour you checked in what was going on with yourself, your town, your country, your planet, then asked If there were a loving god, could he possibly tolerate this? you might find yourself an atheist by tea time.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A guy once embezzled my life savings then added insult to injury by having his lawyer write me a letter threatening to sue me if I ever mentioned his name in public. Similarly, Christians rip people off and trick them into handing over their kids for physical and sexual abuse. Then, if anyone so much as questions their conning spiel, they react in horror at the lack of respect for their beliefs. Such crooks! Such phonies!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cheek Swabs are Murder
Nowadays every cell in your body is a potential new human being. It is not just sperms, eggs and zygotes any more. Some Christian believe they are justified in murdering an abortionist because he destroyed a zygote. Now, to be consistent, they will have to kill anyone who cuts their finger or gets a DNA cheek scraping.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians oddly never take a hint when Jehovah smites their cheesy monuments (e.g. Touchdown Jesus) with lightning.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
By cherry picking the most pleasing features of the universe and ignoring the repulsive, they convince themselves the universe is a perfect playground for man constructed by a loving deity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Yes, the bible hates gays, but it also condemns nearly everyone else to death or worse. Why cherry pick? Very simple. Most people are not gay. They are however, Sunday shoppers, owners of statues, naughty children, adulterers… Gays are a safe alternative scapegoat.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cherry-picking New Technology
Even the most orthodox religions still have to confront the changes in modern culture and technology, even if it just amounts to deciding to reject it. They have to decide whether to accept reproductive technology to tip the balance of male to female babies. They won’t necessary reject everything new if it helps them promote their ancient paternalistic beliefs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is child abuse to deliberately teach children things that are not true. It is child abuse to teach children bigotry and cruelty. It is child abuse to teach children to be closed minded. That is why we should stop indoctrinating children with Christianity and Islam.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If you convert to the Muslim faith, you will be expected to take on an Arabic name — Mohammed is the most popular. Muslims give their children Arabic names, even when they come from quite different cultures. I think this is improper — children should chose their Arabic names when they formally choose to join the faith as a young adult. It is presumptuous to give them one as an infant.
Of course, Christians do the same thing. We don’t notice because most of the common Canadian/American/British names have Christian associations:Adam, Calvin, Chris, Daniel, David, Deborah, Delilah, Ethan, Isaac, James, John, Joseph, Judith, Julia, Luke, Mark, Martha, Mary, Matthew, Michael, Oprah, Paul, Peter, Philip, Rebecca, Sean, Sebastian, Thomas, Tim, Veronica…
Some parents give their children archaic biblical names to unmistakably brand them as Christian/Jewish e.g:Abner, Absolam, Beulah, Caleb, Ebenezer, Enoch, Esau, Gabriel, Jared, Javan, Jehosophat, Jemimah, Jethro, Joshua, Lazarus, Luther, Methusela, Micah, Mordecai, Moses, Noah, Phineas, Sampson, Seth, Uriah, Zachariah…
It would be more respectful of parents to give their children religion-neutral names and let their children optionally pick a new name at a coming of age ceremony. What would be suitable religion-neutral temporary names?Aidan, Albert, Alfred, Allen, Amelia, Anders, Arn, Astrid, Barry, Bernard, Bjorn, Brent, Brian, Brianna, Bruce, Cade, Cameron, Charles, Carl, Cary, Charlotte, Cinnamon, Clifford, Clint, Chloe, Connor, Conrad, Croft, Curtis, Cyrus, Dag, Dallas, Daphne, Dmitri Donald, Donatello, Duncan, Dustin, Dylan, Eric, Erika, Federico, Felix, Frederick, Gary, Geneva, George, Gertrude, Gore, Gregory, Gunnar, Halle, Harry, Herman, Henry, Hugh, Justin, Karen, Katherine, Kerry, Knute, Kurt, Larry, Leif, Leo, Leonard, Leonardo, Liam, Linda, Logan, Martin, Manus, Murray, Nadia, Neil, Niall, Nicholas, Nicole, Nils, Oliver, Pepper, Poppy, Ralph, Randolf, Ren, Riu, Rudolf, Richard, Robert, Roger, Roy, Rufus, Rupert, Ryan, Sander, Sandra, Sandro, Sasha, Sean, Shane, Shannon, Stephen, Svend, Tara, Taylor, Travis, Trevor, Tyler, Walter, William…~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a man arranged to have his son slowly tortured to death, would you term him loving? I doubt it. Why then do Christians persist in labelling their god Jehovah that way?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Child vs Parent Rights
The right of a child not to be abused trumps the religious right of a parent to abuse.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
My younger sister believed humanity lived on the inside of a giant sphere with the sun at the center. My best friend Pete when I was 13 believed humans reproduced by going into an amnesiac coma and the male’s testicles burst open spraying blood containing sperm cells everywhere. As a child, musician Nile Rodgers thought that adults slept standing up. These strange notions were all based on misinterpreting what adults had told them. Children are hard wired to believe whatever claim is true, no matter how bizarre. In pre-history, children who ignored or questioned their parent’s survival advice usually did not survive. This is the vulnerability by which the god virus reinfects each generation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Childish Argument For God
I find even professional Christians make a very childish argument for god:
- If there were no god, I would feel uncomfortable.
- If there were no god I would not have a moral compass.
- If there were no god, my life would lose meaning.
Those are reasons they are attached to the notion of god, true or not. That they would like it if god existed has nothing whatsoever to do with whether he does. It is the argument of a spoiled child imagining the universe is constrained to conform to her preferences. When Christians argue like this, I can’s tell if they are dishonest or merely addled.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Expecting Jesus to come and right all the world’s wrongs is as childish, naïve and idiotic as expecting Superman to rescue you.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I think it reasonable to have some sort of ceremony to mark the end of a life, but I find it irritating when those running the ceremony pretend the deceased is hiding up in the rafters watching the proceedings.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Americans think that all Muslims should grovel and apologise to them because of 9/11. It does not clue into these goofuses that it would be equally ridiculous to demand all Christians grovel and apologise because of Tim McVeigh. There is no evidence the people building the mosque in New York City had anything to do with 9/11, so there is no reason they should pretend to be guilty or deferential. For that matter there is no hard evidence any Muslim had anything to do with 9/11. All we have is Bush’s word, something proven less than reliable and a lot of unanswered questions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Primitive peoples had almost no power over their lives, so to distract themselves, they pretended they did. Thus worship of Jehovah was born. Today we actually do have some control. Put away these childish things.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Children of Rape
This business of forcing women to bear the children of rapists sounds like something Hitler would have dreamt up to humiliate Jewish women. It makes absolutely no sense. Tea Party candidates insist that women bear the children of rape. What you are balancing is the life of a single cell against the life of an actual child who will be hated by its biological mother and ashamed of its biological father and itself for its entire life. It seems to me the life of a real child is far more important than the life of a potential one.
Even sperms and eggs are potential children, in exactly the same sense that zygotes are. It is insane to torment real children to honour an abstract religious principle that has no basis in reality. Claiming that every zygote is sacred is just as silly as claiming every sperm is sacred, every egg is sacred, every lymphocyte is sacred, every neuron is sacred, every erythrocyte… Blithering nonsense!
Cells die by the billions every day. The only people who weep over this mass slaughter, or who butcher women who have abortions are nutty Christians who don’t understand the cellular reality. Ironically, most of these same people also have no compassion for refugee children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Child’s View of War
I grew up in Canada just after WWII (World War II). When I was young, I thought it happened long ago. I could never understand everyone’s fascination with this bit of ancient history. I saw them like Civil War reenactment enthusiasts. I also thought the Korean war was perpetual. It was just a place you went if you wanted to play war.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The most atheist country in the world is China at 61%. It has only a sprinkling of religious people. China is rising in power and will eventually surpass the USA. Imperial powers always impose their religious beliefs on their subjects. I presume China will be no different.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Choice of Law
Christians justify vigilante murders of abortion doctors. If you challenge them, they will counter whose law do you obey man’s or god’s. We don’t have that choice. We have the choice between the law written by men of our time or the biblical law written by men thousands of years ago. I think we have learned something in all that time. In particular, we have discovered it leads to endless bloodshed if you let people force their religious laws on others, particularly when interpreted by fanatics.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Choice Is Wide
There are 60,000 religions. Religious people tell me their religion is the only correct one and following any of the others will lead to eternal damnation. There is no time to even learn about all the religions. How am I supposed to make an informed choice? And why is guessing incorrectly the biggest crime of all? It should not even be a sin. There is no malice intended. I think this is all bullshit. This threat of hellfire is just a filthy recruiting lie all religions use. Any organisation that would stoop to such depths deserves no followers. And that is just the beginning of the lies. Further, I don’t believe a supernatural being with even the most primitive understanding of fair play would condone such a contest. So I think all deities associated with religions that threaten apostates or non-believers cannot exist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Choose a Creation Myth
Hindus have five different creation myths. Jews, Christians and Muslims insist every one accept only one and oddly one that for which there is no collaborating evidence and overwhelming scientific evidence it is false.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Choose Your Life Purpose
Just because life does not have a single given a priori purpose, does not mean it is without purposes. It is just that you get to choose you own purpose, as does everyone else. Christians believe if they acknowledged the choice, they would be miserable.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Choose Your Own Purpose
Everybody gets to choose their own purpose and change it as needed. The universe as a whole does not have a purpose any more than a mountain has a purpose. Asking what is the purpose of the universe is the same asking Why did god create the universe? What did he plan to use it for? If there is no god to have the purpose, there can be no universal purpose. So stop expecting science to answer meaningless questions like What is the purpose of the universe?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Choosing A God
There are two big questions:
- Is there a god?
- If so, which religion, if any, is the best to join?
People spend a huge amount of time on the first question, but none on the second. The first has almost no effect on your life at all. The second has far more consequences for your life. It determines your social circle, whom you may marry, your diet, your clothing, your customs, your morality, what impossible things you have to profess to believe, your social status, whom you hate… People choose their parents’s religion without examining even one of the 60,000 alternatives.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians believe that if you tell a lie enough times, it becomes true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A scientific study discovered that Christians are less generous and less altruistic than non-believers. Why might that be?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Christians imagine they don’t have to deal with a situation because God will handle it.
- Christians often imagine people in trouble are being punished by god for some hidden sin. They do not want to interfere.
- Christianity teaches that belief is far more important than good deeds. In my view, belief is a form of wickedness — wilful stupidity.
- Christians tend to confine their donations to the church. These are for all practical purposes country club dues, and corruption payoffs. They don’t help the disadvantaged the way they would had they been given to specific charities.
- The more devout you are, the more likely you are to consider others wicked and undeserving of any aid. You have more rules for others to break.
When Christians off the street argue for Christianity, they will say things like:
- I like having god give me a helping hand if I get sick or run short of money or my partner dumps me.
- I think it will be wonderful to live in heaven. I can’t stand the idea that when I die nothing more happens.
- I think it is wonderful that god punishes sinners.
What there are really telling me is why they would like it if the Christian story were true, not why it is true. The universe does not conform itself to what you would like. Further, they don’t actually get these benefits by believing in Christianity. Prayer has been reputedly proven to be futile. Heaven is just a pipe-dream. The criminal justice system punishes criminals. There is no evidence any god does.
We are dealing with quite feeble-minded, infantile people suffering from Christian-induced brain damage. Logic is likely not going to be very effective.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A church is like an astrology club. A group of people get together and make up an entire body of knowledge and have fun testing each other on it, even though it has no connection to reality. A church is really no different, but it tries con others into giving it special privilege by bogusly claiming important magical knowledge. A church is even more ambitious. It tries to impose its beliefs on others by lobbying for changes in the law. To improve its status, it aggrandises itself with expensive architecture, elaborate costumes, magical paraphernalia… The astounding thing is how well they succeed at their bamboozling.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The engine of Christianity is bigotry. Christians use religion to cloak their bigotry.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Burial Superstitions
Christian bigots oppose Muslim cemeteries on the grounds Muslims don’t use embalming fluid or metal-lined caskets. They claim this practice pollutes the ground water. This is as nutty as Monsanto-controlled farmers complaining about their organic farming neighbours poisoning them with a lack of pesticides.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian assure me, that with absolute certainty, the creator of the universe will torture people for eternity for committing various victimless crimes. I can’t believe a creator of universes could possibly be so petty. Such vindictiveness sprouted from a poisoned human mind.
They also tell me this same creator placed all the gold on earth for anyone who wanted to dig it up.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The central feature of Christianity is a human sacrifice. The central ritual is cannibalism. When any other culture does this, Christians react in horror.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Usually when I talk of Christian cannibalism I am referring to ritual cannibalism in the liturgy. However, on 2014-01-13, a group of Christians in the Cameroons attacked a random Muslim man, hacked him to death and one of the party ate his leg down to the bone.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) source
Christian Car Salesman
Imagine a used car salesman who kept saying that a car was wonderful, the best, but would not you in on any details about it, e.g. mileage, its accidents report, a mechanic’s report, or even the year of manufacture. He acted hurt that you did not just believe him. That is a bit like talking with a Christian who refuses to give any evidence to back up his claims.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Cause of Recession
Americans are having a terrible time with their economy. The problem is, oddly, Christianity. Christians are hopelessly optimistic, gullible people who will believe what any charlatan tells them so long as it sounds pleasant. They have almost no interest in whether it is actually true. They have been trained in this sheep-like submission to crooks since birth. So they are vulnerable to politicians who lie to them that they can have their cake and eat it too — massive tax cuts, especially to the billionaires, no cuts in spending and pay down the debt. Honest politicians tell them they must pay higher taxes and accept across the board spending cuts to avoid the public debt dragging the whole country into bankruptcy. Christians turf these depressing but honest politicians out office. They prefer fairy tales.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians feel no guilt at lying and cheating to defend the faith because they believe it is highly important for others to believe the myths (even if they do not), so that others can be bilked or so that others will behave docilely.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is naïve to expect Christians to cheat less than others. Consider the outrageous con artistry of TV evangelists with their fake healings and phony promises of health and fabulous prosperity. Further, Christians believe the effects of any sin can be magically undone with just an ecclesiastical ceremony. To a Christian, sin is only temporary and thus does not really matter. Christianity is much forgiving than the law. It thus encourages sin and cheating.
What sort of scoundrel prays to god to fix an athletic contest in his favour? What sort of conceited snot claims his special talents were a gift from God to reward him for his wonderfulness?
Finally, remember that almost every successful con man dons the mantle of a pious Christian to lull his marks. That smarmy piety should you on your guard.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The cheek of Christians who have never even taken a first year calculus course lets them tell Stephen Hawking he is all wet about the age and beginning of the universe. They are shameless with there arguments from ignorance.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians have such cheek to tell Dr. Steven Hawking and Dr. Richard Dawkins they are wrong, when they have only an elementary school level (or less) understanding of mathematics and science.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Child Abuse
Christianity is a form of child abuse, just as surely as sprinkling LSD on a child’s corn flakes. Both leave the children delusional and traumatised. We tolerate it for the same reason Ethiopians tolerate non-consenting female circumcision/genital mutilation/unsanitary clitorectomy and Americans tolerate non-consenting infant male circumcision — we have always done it that way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Child Abuse
Christians are adult abused children. The Christian rule book requires parents to beat their children and to instill in them a terror of the god Jehovah. They brutally terrify their children with stories of hell fire. The adult Christian has an inner child that needs reassurance someone will protect them from the monster, Jehovah. Pretty well the only way you can do that is to show them Jehovah is a preposterous bogey man of fiction.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Child Abuse Complicity
A church typically exculpates itself for child abuse coverups by saying Mistakes were made. Passive voice is designed to avoid taking responsibility. Covering up and aiding a child molester and/or abuser is not a mistake. It is deliberate criminal act. A mistake would be failing to take a child’s isolated complaint seriously. Perhaps they mean We made a mistake. If we had been smarter we would not have got caught.
If any other institution but the church were found to harbour a child molestation ring, we would not think twice before shutting it down, no matter how prestigious the front. Since the criminal justice system is too timid, the churches caught doing this sort of thing need to be sued out of existence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
Christian Child Abuser
When I was about nine, I waited at the Ambleside swimming pool in West Vancouver for my Mom to come pick me up. An elderly Christian man pressed me with stories of god and hellfire. I could not leave the rendezvous spot, so I felt trapped. He pressed tracts on me. When my mother arrived, she was furious. I figured she was mad because he might have been planning to abuse me sexually, but she was concerned about an even more damaging form of abuse, attempting to permanently traumatise and brainwash her child with fear.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Child Abusers
When Christians abuse their children, I find it even more revolting than when psychopaths do. The Christian abuse is so unnecessary. Mild mannered people are under the delusion that Jehovah approves of and demands their cruelty.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Child Predators
Fundamentalists make no bones about it. They are after your kids, the younger the better. Pre-school kids are easier to scare. Pre-school kids are more trusting. Pre-school kids are not able to tell truth from nonsense. If you let them at your kids they will create just as much trauma as sexual predators.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What chumps Christians are to hand over 10% of their income to charlatans, to commit all manner of immoral deeds, all the while feeling profoundly virtuous, tricked into it like a naïve little boy afraid of invisible bogeymen.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian makes two claims:
- There is an intelligent presence in the universe that micromanages human lives.
- That Christians alone have an exclusive infallible communication pipeline to this entity both to petition it and to discover its wishes.
Christians pretend that if there is even the remotest possibility that (1) is true, then (2) must inevitable follow. That is both absurd and preposterously conceited.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Climate Deniers
It is little surprise that fundamentalist Christianity and global warming denying are strongly correlated. Fundamentalist Christians are schooled from birth in the art of wishful thinking and denying evidence that a god cannot be counted to rescue you from your folly.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians often argue that they derive comfort from Christianity particularly having an imaginary invisible friend in Jesus. Therefore it does not matter if it is true. They choose to believe it is true despite the evidence. Believing things that are not true will always harm you to some extent. If, for example, you falsely believe Jesus will protect you from venomous snakes, you might be tempted to buy a pretty yellow one as a pet. If you falsely believe Jesus will answer every prayer, you may be tempted to blow the rent money on renting a sports car. If you falsely believe Jesus will protect you from criminals, you might be tempted to walk down dark alleys at 3 AM. If you falsely believe you will live forever, you might just fritter your entire life away playing video games and watching TV. If you falsely believe that Jesus would not permit calamitous climate change, you will end up living in a desolate world.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian Con
Christianity is a con. If Christians had not threatened you with hell fire when you were too young to realise you were being lied to, it would be completely obvious. You would have little doubt Christianity is the mother of all cons.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is one big con:
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- Popes use it to con people to gild their palaces and cathedrals.
- Faith healers use to con their marks for their private jets.
- Genocidal maniacs and serial killers use it to buy respectability. Confess and all is forgiven.
- Priests use it to con and threaten children into taking off their clothes and allowing the priests to have their way with them.
Christians have conned people into handing over money by persuading them when they die they face eternal torment. The con succeeded wildly even though the Christians did not offer even a stick of evidence. In reality, death is no more of a big deal than an unwatered-plant or a up-turned goldfish. You experienced it before you were born and every time you had general anaesthesia.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian Con
In a con, a small group of con artists tell lies and make extravagant promises to the marks. The gullible marks give the con artists money or other valuables. The con artists do not make good on the promises. The best con artists are so smooth and practised their marks never notice they have been had. Is that not an accurate description of what goes on in every religion you have ever heard about? Religion is the original and most polished con. Though religion is a superstition and an error, more fundamentally it is a con. Christianity is such a highly evolved con that sometimes not even the con men themselves are fully aware they are crooks.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian Con
Like any con, Christianity works only if you don’t look at the spiel too carefully to see if it is plausible, true and consistent.
Like any con, Christianity works with carrot and stick. It makes promises it never keeps.
Like any con, Christianity appeals to greed, sadism and the dark side generally of the human personality.
Like any con, Christianity has to herd the gullible together and keep them away from the skeptical.
Ordinary cons are only after your money. The Christian con also wants you to hand over your children for sexual abuse. They also want to you surrender your will for general purposes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The best estimate of the number of planets in the universe is 1022 in other words 1 followed by 22 zeroes. The Christian is so conceited he figures his planet Earth is the only one in the entire universe supporting life. The rest were allegedly created by god purely for man’s entertainment. He does not believe in god. He believes in astronomical luck.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are so conceited that they imagine any voice whose source they cannot identify must be Jehovah himself.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians imagine they rate a gullibility/bullshit-forgiveness quotient 1000 times higher than anyone else. Where do they get off thinking should be treated so differently from the rest of us?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians often complain that atheists do not show sufficient respect for Christian beliefs. That is like a patient complaining that her psychiatrist does not take her belief that she is a werewolf sufficiently seriously. This is not a matter of respecting opinions. Christians are demanding atheists pretend to take their bizarre delusions seriously. Christians got in trouble by treating some fanciful ideas with far too much reverence. Christians refuse to acknowledge they have absolutely no evidence to back up any of their claims of fact. They are no different from people claiming to be werewolves who cannot show any evidence they are, just their heartfelt conviction and the observation that there are many other people who think the same way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I am astounded at the hubris of Christians who pontificate claiming to have the final word on the big bang when they don’t even know a quark from a hadron.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I have to laugh at Christians when they look down their noses at polytheists or idol worshippers. Why is believing in one imaginary inconsistent god any less silly than believing in many imaginary tussling gods? Why is believing in an invisible god that does nothing any less silly than believing in a visible god that does nothing?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It perpetually astounds me the way Christians have no embarrassment whatsoever about their conceit embodied in their assertion that the creator of the trillions of galaxies, takes time out each day to speak words of mundane Ann Landers-style advice personally to them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the most odious things about Christians and believers in general, is their monumental conceit. They believe they are the center of the universe and everything they see was custom created for their personal pleasure. In their view, no other species but man has inherent value. Other species have value only as they are useful to man. Prime Minister Stephen Harper is an epitome of the type. Their religion gives them an absurd sense of importance and entitlement. Even when science demonstrates this is preposterous, they cling to the lie. Only money and religious dogma are real to them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Scientists estimate there are 400 billion stars in the Milky Way Galaxy. It takes light 100,000 years to cross it. There are 125 billion such galaxies. We have visited none of them. Yet Christians arrogantly announce the entire universe was created expressly for Christians. It makes me want to whack them with a shovel for being so conceited. It is sillier than a microscopic jellyfish announcing the entire ocean was created solely for its personal delectation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I was watching an episode of Midsomer Murders about a lawyer who had been artfully conned into thinking a wine cellar full of fake wine was actually rare and costly vintages. I said to myself, that is exactly how Christianity works. Like any con, it preys on people’s greed and wishful thinking. It lures them with promises of a life of utter idleness with streets of gold.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When my mother was a young fashion model, she sent away $10 (a fortune at the time), for a device designed to make her breasts grow even larger. A package arrived in the mail containing a cardboard hand on which were printed the words massage will do the trick. Christians pull similar cons, promising far more than ample breasts, charging far more than $10 and not even delivering a cardboard hand.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I have discovered something quite peculiar — the people most opposed to promiscuity, the people who believe marriage is such a wonderful institution that they call it sacred, the people who believe that children should only be raised by two-parent married couples, insist most strenuously on denying marriage to others.
They see themselves as so superior to everyone else, they believe that allowing others to partake would defile the institution. Normally, humans want to share institutions they value. These Christian bigots claim to be strong supporters of the US constitution, but ignore the first amendment and insist on imposing their religious superstitions on everyone.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Let’s say you went to a Superman movie. There was a tsunami. Superman was capable of saving everyone. However, he decided to stay home in bed and drink a beer. We in the audience would gasp, What happened to make Superman turn evil? Yet when Jehovah, who is reputedly even more capable than Superman, does the same thing in real life, people pretend the Jehovah is good, loving and beneficent. They make excuses for their deadbeat god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The body has a natural contraceptive hormone called progestin. The body uses it so suppress a second pregnancy after one has already started. The secret of oral contraceptives is to use this natural hormone to prevent even an initial pregnancy. The church seems to think this hormone is wicked. Then, to be consistent, Catholic women should be forced to take drugs to suppress it, thus causing them to become fertile at all times, even when pregnant. If it is not a sin to be infertile when pregnant, then why not permit infertility at other times as well?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In the bible, Jehovah behaves much like Hitler. No matter what terrible thing he does, he demands his followers praise it, and pretend it is a great and wonderful deed. But this sucking up and pretending is just cowardice.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians know better. They have had the same benefit of education as everyone else, yet they spout crap about earthquakes being caused by their god punishing the wicked, as if the Japanese were unusually wicked, as if the Indonesians were unusually wicked, as if the New Zealanders were unusually wicked. What utter crap! Those smug Christian bastards deserve a shower of rotten vegetables or worse.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Crazies on Spaceship Earth
Imagine you were an astronaut living on a space station. A fellow astronaut, who was a Christian, got into the emergency dental kit and was high as a kite on nitrous oxide N₂O. He was smashing the life support equipment that controlled the O₂ / CO₂ balance. You said Cut that out; you will kill us all, you idiot! He replied, I don’t believe in the O₂ / CO₂ balance. I have faith in God, not man’s science! You would not put up with him. You would be justified in sedating him, confining him or worse if necessary. That is exactly what is happening here on spaceship earth with the Christian climate change deniers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Darwin Awards
67 foolish South African Christians were crushed to death when they went to see televangelist, T.B. Joshua in Nigeria who claimed to be a prophet, to know the future and to perform miracles. Multi-millionaire Joshua scrimped on construction of his hostel building and it collapsed. He told several different lies about the cause of the collapse. One of the lies was that a plane flew into the building 911-style and left no trace. He has also killed people by convincing them that giving him money for Jesus was more effective than HIV drugs. It is amazing the crimes people can get away with if they wear the right costume.
Moral of the story: never trust a known crook with your life, a lesson too late for these gullible Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Darwin Awards
It is quite distressing for us atheists to watch Christians killing themselves off for the silliest of reasons. For example:
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- Jehovah witnesses will knowingly chose death over accepting a blood transfusion for themselves or a family member.
- Some Christians force family members to handle poisonous snakes, all based on a verse in Mark inserted long after the rest of the bible was written.
- Some Christians avoid medicine that works in preference to, televangelist theatre, placebos and herbal medicine that do not.
- Some Christians rely on homeopathy (water pills).
- Some Christians think they are helping the situation when they pray.
- Some Christians believe a sky fairy protects them from the consequences of their foolishness, such as swimming in a rip tide.
- Some Christians still beat and mistreat their children to the point of death.
Christian Darwin Awards
On 2014-09-22, Freetown Sierra Leone was in the middle of lockdown to control an Ebola epidemic. People poured out on the streets after a local Christian leader said on the radio that people should Come out and shout ‘Jesus, Ebola is over’!. Christians threw all caution to the wind and ignored all Ebola-control measures. These fools and their families will be soon removed from the gene pool.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) source
In debates between Christians and atheists, all the facts in play came from science, not religion. Christianity contributes nothing to knowledge.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
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- ritual cannibalism ceremony
- a cracker remains unchanged smelling, looking, tasting, feeling like cracker, however, we pretend it is raw human corpse meat.
Psychiatrists study people who have their own unique delusions. Anthropologists study groups of primitive peoples and their beliefs/delusions. But nobody seems to study Christians and Muslims in the modern world, their delusions, what holds those delusions in place and how they are transmitted from person to person. So many people share the delusions and so much media propaganda rains on those who do not share them, it becomes impossible to look objectively at them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Delusions of Grandeur
Christians are so magnificently conceited they imagine merely asking for what they want might make the universe leap to obey. This is a delusion of grandeur, the sort of thing cocaine addicts indulge in.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Instead of teaching their children how to grieve, Christians teach their children denial and how to put pretend and put on a public face that they believe in the lie of eternal life. This leaves them even more incapable of dealing with death and even more vulnerable to the vultures who will extract money from them to perpetuate the myth of eternal life.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I get the strangest feeling that nearly all Christians have little trust that what they officially believe is actually true. However, they stick with the religion anyway, probably for reasons nothing to do with religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Dream Fog
Sometimes I dream about computer programming in my sleep. It is very frustrating. I am not clear on the goal and things happen that make no sense. When I wake up, the ineptitude of my dream thinking comes instantly clear. I suspect Christians live a perpetual dream-fog when it comes to science. When nothing makes any sense, no wonder they cling to the most simplistic explanations. Christianity can be looked on as a kind of retardation. The words cretin and Christian share the same etymology.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The most corny, nauseating bit of Christian tripe ever written is Wink Martindale’s Deck of Cards.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian Excuse for Procrastination
Trust God is the Christian excuse for doing nothing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If somebody tries to sell you something and threatens you bodily harm if you don’t buy, that means whatever they were selling you is crap. That is why they resorted to threats. It is still true when Christians do it. That is one of the reasons you know even Christians think Christianity is crap.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Normally, issuing threats of violence to convince people to hand over their money is called extortion, but when a TV evangelist does it, it is called spreading the gospel. Normally, promising a hundred fold return on investment and delivering nothing is called fraud, but when a TV evangelist does it, it is called preaching God’s word. Its a wonder this God fellow has any credibility left.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Some people fantasise about winning the lottery and buying a lakeside cabin. Christians fantasise about having an afterlife and owning a house made of solid gold.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Fear Of Atheists
Christians have traditionally killed atheists, shunned them or at least made their lives unpleasant. Yet they happily tolerate whackos who claim they can cure all disease with a handful of crystals without the aid of Jesus. Why the difference? In their heart of hearts, Christians know the atheists are right. The atheists threatens their beliefs that they fear they must espouse for social, not logical, reasons. In other words, if they fail to maintain the charade, other believers will reject them. The crystal people are playing the same confidence game, just a variant.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I have to laugh when Christians quote scripture in arguments with non-Christians. Surely they understand that nobody else’s scripture has any weight with them, so why should Christian scripture have any weight with anyone else?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a Christian fundamentalist were put in charge of the forests he would say, Cut as much as you want. Jaysus is coming soon anyway. He will first burn down all the damn trees, then replace them all.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
This actually happened when Reagan installed James Gaius Watt as Secretary of the Interior.
When Christian scholars finally had to admit the tail end of Mark (including the bit about handling poisonous snakes) was a forgery, tacked on much later, they decided it did not matter that it was a forgery because God must have inspired the forgers. The forgery was obvious because it did not appear in early copies of the manuscript.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
To a Christian, it matters not a whit if what he believes in untrue, irrational, preposterous, contradictory or impossible. All that matters is it makes him feel comforted when he thinks it. It is reminiscent of the addict’s attitude toward heroin.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians berate the Aztecs for their fascination with human sacrifice, yet Judaism, Christianity and Islam all celebrate a psychotic man, Abraham, who heard voices commanding him to sacrifice his son, Isaac, but was stopped at the last minute by a voice in his head he took for an angel. The central event in Christianity was the human sacrifice of Jesus. That is why the cross is the symbol of Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are such hypocrites. They happily reap the benefits of 21st century science while spitting on it, declaring scientists instruments of Satan and pretending to prefer iron age science. Let them experience biblical age dentistry!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In the dark ages, Christians had no interest in mathematics, so they took the last remaining book by Archimedes The Method, scraped the writing off the parchment, and replaced it with religious superstitious drivel — a prayer book. Nova estimated this act set human civilisation back at least a century. Modern science is working to reveal the original work.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
According to a FOX poll, 74% of Americans believe in after-death eternal punishment. I find this baffling given that nearly all Americans cheered their soldiers off to Afghanistan and Iraq to exterminate children using the most painful imaginable means — chemical burning.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
At the end-of-life, Christians are the ones most likely to demand extreme life saving measures. What’s with this? Don’t they believe in eternal life? It sounds like they don’t believe their BS either.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Christians are so fanatical about the sanctity of life that they ban contraception, why are they not in the least perturbed by children suffering from malnutrition or US soldiers butchering Afghan children by the millions for no apparent reason? How do they justify withdrawing medical care from seniors?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Inconsistency vis a vis the Constitution
Christians are unusually hypocritical when it comes to the US constitution. They believe strongly in a very broad interpretation of the second amendment. They are happy to sacrifice their children for it. Yet they completely ignore the freedom of religion provision of the first and fourteenth amendments which allows everyone to chose their own religion without interference or discrimination. Christians keep trying to force their religious superstitions down the throats of others using law. They seem completely unaware they are spitting on the constitution.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Junk Science is Still Junk Science
Christians seem to think that they deserve equal time for their medieval science even when they have zero evidence to support it. They no more deserve time than people who claim alien abductions without evidence, or people who claim Nazis live under the North Pole, or the stork theory of reproduction, again without evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Know They Sling BS
Even though there is far more evidence for the risen Elvis and for alien abductions than for Christianity, Christians still insist there is utterly no doubt about their claims.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I am told that one big disadvantage of golden Labradors is that they like eating feces. You cannot break them of the habit. No matter what proper food you give them, they prefer shit. This reminds me of Christians who turn their noses up at scientific truth, preferring instead to wallow in religious superstition and quackery.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Lack of Health Care
How is it possible for anyone who claims to be a Christian to oppose helping the homeless, universal medical care and old age pensions? Do they seriously want their fellows to die from lack of care? How do they reconcile that with what Jesus harped on?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A clergyman who writes a text giving false information about evolution is almost as reprehensible as a scientist who publishes falsified findings.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine a lifeboat containing a mixture of Christians and atheists. The atheists are frantically bailing out the boat. The Christians are frantically dipping their buckets into the sea and pouring the water back into the boat. It is rather strange that the atheists don’t heave the Christians overboard.
What do I mean by this metaphor? Christians call for increased production of greenhouse gases on a planet threatened with climate change. Christians use violence to force people to have more children on a planet that has not the resources to feed them. Christians call for subduing nature to destroy the habitat of endangered species. Christians claim that preserving trees is devil worship. Christians claim any damage we humans do to the planet does not matter because Jesus is coming soon to destroy it all, (or possibly repair it). Some even want to dismantle secular government and replace it with a Christian theocracy, effectively a Christianised version of Shari’a law. They are homicidal lunatics. They are so familiar, we ignore how dangerous they are. They are so nuts, they yearn for the end of the world. All two billion of them have to be neutralised in some way, ideally by convincing them to give up their delusions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian reasoning for the existence of god works analogously to this: You can’t mathematically prove all the women found dressed in nighties in a bawdy house are prostitutes, therefore with 200% certainty, they must all be virgins.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Like all magicians, Christians use distraction, trying to get people to look in the sky and deep time for god, but god is really an illusion created in the here and now by the Christian to relieve the gullible of their money or to trick a parent into allowing parents to molest their child.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Make Believe
Christianity is a form of make believe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Make Believe
Christianity is make believe for adults.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A BC Catholic teen got pregnant because the church kept her so ignorant she believed that you simply decided whether or not to have children. They consider her gross ignorance a Good Thing™ I think it is extreme malice.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Medical Priorities
A Christian would sooner spend $1 million on life support for someone who is brain dead with no hope of regaining consciousness, or forcing a patient in extreme pain with terminal pancreas cancer to stay alive than they would on patients with a good chance of recovery. Such are the times I want to slap them senseless.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In biblical days people assumed disease was caused by evil spirits. Treatment consisted in punishing the afflicted. Christians still subscribe to this primitive treatment of the ill when it comes to problems with the brain or the genitals.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Money Con
One of the Christian scams is to convince poor people they are poor because they don’t have enough faith in Jesus and the way to prove that faith is to send money to the evangelist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian Money Con
One of the world’s oldest cons is that if you give money to god, god will supernaturally bless you with abundance. The only people who get rich from this scheme are the con men who accept the tithes in god’s name. The people with the really big money, like Soros, are all atheists. They don’t succumb to wishful thinking.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is a rather strange conception — god as high interest savings account. Further, who needs the corrupt intermediary? You are much more capable and efficient than any TV evangelist of spending the money directly on god’s work.
Christians imagine others reject Christian morality because it is too strict. Not so. It is too crazy and too evil.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Jesus says he will torture people for eternity, primarily for one crime — not believing his cock and bull story, told by anonymous hearsay. It does not matter what good works you do. How just is that? What is so virtuous about gullibility?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Morality is Disgusting
Christians imagine that without Jehovah, there is no foundation for morality. Then how do they explain that atheists are more law abiding than Christians? Atheists make up 8 to 16% of the population but only 0.21% of the prison population. Christians who are a majority of 75% in the USA, make up 75% of the prison population. Further, the atheist Norwegians are closing prisons from lack of criminals. To Christians, this may be counter-intuitive. To atheists it is obvious. If you fill people’s heads with wrong ideas, they will behave in an irrational way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Murder Exception
If some people receive a get-out-of-jail free exemption on religious grounds, everyone should get it. The law is supposed to treat everyone equally. It is not supposed to create a privileged class.
So if John Christian can kill his kids by giving them quack medicine, so should John Atheist.
Looking at this another way, why are children left unprotected from whacko Christian parents but not from whacko Atheist parents? Surely Christian kids deserve equal protection. This is unconstitutional discrimination against Christian children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Murder Mysteries
Murder mysteries written by or for Christians follow a formula: there are two detectives, one intelligent and rational and the other not particularly bright. However, The dumb detective keeps burbling up a stream of information about the crime that they just pick out of the air with dreams or visions. They do no deduction or examination of clues other than possibly wandering around the crime scene. The information is always correct. The smart detective is humiliated by this. Nobody is ever skeptical, or accuses the dumb detective of acquiring the information in some underhanded way. This is Christian wish fulfillment.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are so self-centred, so narcissistic, so conceited. So long as all is going ok with them, they proclaim god to be just, kind, beneficent. Yet they know that is a lie. They blind themselves to the indescribable misery visited on other people, innocent people. They refuse to admit that either god is sadistic or god is imaginary, and hence there is nobody there to deal with all that misery, just us.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians so often assert their right to impose their religious beliefs, praying and customs on others. They justify this by saying This is a Christian nation. It isn’t. Democracies are founded on the principle of freedom of religion which includes freedom from religion. In particular, Christians chastise non-Christians for failing to honour Jesus at Christmas. How would they feel about being forced to honour Mohammed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I suspect Christians would be far more upset to discover that god calls himself Allah, than they would be if they discovered he did not exist at all.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
You have must better chances of winning the biggest lottery in your country every year or the rest of your life than of the Christians being right about God and the afterlife (which has about the same odds as Paul Bunyan and his blue ox babe being a true story).~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Christianity is good for all society’s ills, how come the red states have more crime, more VD (Venereal Disease), more teen pregnancy, more infant mortality, fewer donations to charity, shorter longevity…?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Americans claim, without their Christianity, there would be chaos. Yet Sweden is a much more orderly, peaceful and crime-free country than the USA and it is secular. The USA has more murders than any other developed country, more gun violence, more crime. Where is this alleged civilising influence?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The core of Jesus’s philosophy is to take no thought for the morrow. Abandon your family. Become a beggar. Almost no Christians do this. If any Christian’s son followed this advice, they would be horrified. Christians are such hypocrites to simultaneously worship Jesus and treat him like a lunatic.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Would you fly knowing the pilot thought the optimal course of action in a tight situation was to pray to Allah or Jehovah for their own immortal soul?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Pit Bulls
Imagine a pit bull tangled up in a fishing line. You do your best to free him, but he keep snapping at you, thinking you are trying to harm him. That is how Christians behave when you try to free them of crazy ideas that are hurting them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity works by browbeating children into pretending to believe the patently untrue. Once they have learned to do this, they are vulnerable to all manner of nonsense including mediums, quack medicine, faith healers, get rich quick by tithing scams, unfounded conspiracy theories, Republican voodoo economics, homeopathy and attacking other small nations and stealing their natural resources in self defence. They are plasticine in the hands of the professional con men. They will even had over their children to be molested or raped.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
Even if the Christians don’t manage to take control of your child now through their relentless TV ministries and family values programming, they are planting the seeds of a phobia of god as bogeyman they will use later in life during a window of vulnerability.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There are 60,000 religions. We in Canada give special status to Christianity. Like other religions, they pretend its stories and claims are absolutely certain even though archaeologists and historians say they cannot possibly be true. They offer promises of eternal bliss, in return for money. Yet there is no evidence they ever deliver. The churches claim to help the poor, but persuade the poor in the third world to give money to them. Ask yourself why is sexual abuse of children in the church so rampant? Because the government does not tax them, even atheists are forced to support them. The media treat them as a force for good. I consider them polished con artists.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Instead of searching for a lost child, Christians petition the sky god to do the looking. Instead of enacting mining safely laws, Christians ask the sky god to suspend the laws of causality to rescue the trapped miners. Instead of moving their belongings to high ground, Christians pray to the sky god that their homes be spared the flood waters. Praying is not only useless, it is counter-productive because it displaces useful action.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Debating with Christians is a specialty of psychiatry. The goal is to free the patient of a fear-based delusion shared by many of their peers. In turn, the patients and his peers are trying the install the delusion in you.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Right To Abuse Children
When drug-addicted or alcoholic parents physically or sexually abuse their children, society protects the children by eventually taking them away, yet it permits those same parents to conceive and abuse as many more new children as they please because Christians believe the parents’ right to reproduce is unconditional and overrides the right of the child to be free from abuse.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Right to be Nuts
Christians are as nutty as Morris dancers. They deserve the same respect and the same rights to act strangely. However, that does not include forcing their customs on others, especially children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Right to Inferior Daycare
In 13 states, all a person has to do is claim his childcare business has a religious affiliation and poof, all inspections go away and also all requirements for compliance with laws to protect the safety of his charges, including training, food safety, sanitation, criminal record checks, pedophile checks… Sean Faircloth: A Strategic Plan for Secular Success~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian Roadblock to Dealing With Global Warming
Christians are a major roadblock to dealing with global warming. Some of them naïvely believe that god would not permit such a catastrophe and is thus obligated, like Superman, to perform a last minute rescue, even though there is no evidence he has done so before, e.g. the great plagues, slavery, lynchings, great wars, Auschwitz, Rwanda, Iraq… Other Christians welcome any catastrophe sufficiently nasty to be labelled the end of the world because they imagine it means the faithful will get to do lunch with Jesus (and a billion others), immediately afterwards.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians like to torment teens by convincing them that sex is evil, masturbation is evil and even being horny is evil. This is sadistic. There is no fault in the teen. Raging hormones mean being horny out of your mind is absolutely normal at that age. Christians’ impossible demand that teens should have the sex drive of a nonegenarian makes teens both miserable and crazy. Christians pull this filthy stunt in order gain control over teens by inducing a phony guilt trip.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clergy have become synonymous with child sexual abuse and physical abuse. A native boy at a Canadian residential school sprinkled some salt on his porridge. The loose cap came off the salt shaker and the entire bottle dumped out. The presiding nun made him eat it all. He vomited. She made him eat all the vomit. This is the sort of the bullying, sanctimonious mentality that Christianity creates.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are the most hateful people I have encountered. They are vicious without provocation. It is no surprise then the most popular movie ever among Christians is the ultra-sadistic The Passion of the Christ by Mel Gibson. There must be a strain of hate even for Jesus underneath the surface.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I am utterly baffled how Christians can either believe such strange things or at least pretend to. I often ask them What could you tell me that would persuade me your god exists? They usually answer something along the lines I believe in Jesus 110%. If someone wanted to convince me that a particular brand of vacuum cleaner was the best, they would be quite happy to tell me facts about it and to arrange a demo. But with deities, Christians will not give me even a single reason why such a deity likely exists. Apparently the only reason they think so is faith/wishful thinking. They convinced themselves it would be a good thing if such a deity existed. That it would be nice has nothing to do with whether the deity actually exists.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians routinely lie about the scientific accuracy of the bible. They don’t care in the least if it is actually true. All that matters is Does it sound scientific? and Does it create a warm feeling in my tummy?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Churches routinely break the law and Christian insiders ensure they are not prosecuted. They do political lobbying and champion specific candidates and they demand the public illegally subsidise this activity with a tax break that nobody else gets for their lobbying efforts. The churches are demanding even more special privilege than they already have.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The more I study Christianity the more evil and loathsome it becomes. It is sewage sold as Perrier.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The purpose of hell is to terrify people into obedience and most importantly terrifying them into handing over money to the church. There is no evidence it literally exists.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Things have changed. In Canada, young Christians hide that fact from their peers to avoid ostracism.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian slander atheists by claiming they yearn for a value system where love and compassion have no part. Everything is cold card cash and greed. Oddly this is the value system of the political arm of the Christian church — the Republican party.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is not so much that Christians are a motley assortment of bigots, sniveling cowards, con men, superstitious twits, gullible idiots and people who manage to lead decent lives despite their poisonous beliefs, it is that they imagine they are superior to everyone else and that their false beliefs are what make them so damn superior.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I you are a Christian, you believe nothing you do matters. God will override anything he does not like or fill in for your lapses. Christians often think misfortune is god’s punishment, so you do not want to interfere. You tend to hand over all your donations to the church where they do little good for the unfortunate. You are mainly concerned with racking up cosmic brownie points.
Atheists do not have this crazy thinking.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Strangehold on Public Schools
When I was in public elementary school, I wrote an essay about some British boarding school boys sneaking out and drinking some wine. One my characters, whom I named Travers, said That’s ruddy good wine I was chastised, not for the theme, but for using the obscenity ruddy. You have to look back a few decades to see progress prying loose the Christian stranglehold on our schools.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Stubborn Bigotry
Christians refuse to accept that other people’s right to be left alone trumps the right of Christians to harass them for ignoring Christian dogma.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the darker consequences of Christian superstition is it discourages people from donating their organs after they die. Christians vaguely imagine they will need them or having them removed will be painful. That same nuttiness makes Christians try to preserve their bodies from decay after they are buried.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Survivor Conceit
Christians who get themselves in serious trouble, say crashing a plane in the wilderness, then survive invariably claim divine intervention saved them. The creator of the universe hand picked them to survive where normally he condemns people in such a situation to a ghastly death. It is a monumental ego trip. It never occurs to them to interpret their luck in a more mundane way with the anthropic principle. Some people in such a situation luck out and wander in the correct direction, most in the wrong one. Some people experience bad weather, some good. Some people manage to find water, some do not. Most people die. A small number survive. The only ones who tell tales of their adventure on radio are the survivors. There was nothing special about them, other than perhaps better survival skills. What is really annoying is the way CBC radio feeds their delusions in reporting the stories.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christians use a visual symbol, a man nailed to a cross of wood dying slowly. The problem is the Christians behave as if this symbol meant let’s string the bastards up.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The strange thing about Christians is they think it inherently more plausible and simple that a man in the clouds runs the universe with magic than the universe runs by natural law. For them, that is the default position. Even though they have no evidence for it, they are absolutely sure this is true, only because they imagine it would be wonderful if a capricious, sadistic god were in charge. It reminds me of the scene is some movie where the audience has to clap and proclaim a belief in fairies to bring Tinkerbell back to life. It is a pervasive primitive belief that what you believe to be true is a potent force in shaping reality. However, it just shapes your perception of reality.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists, even me, often inadvertently use terminology that reinforces the Christian myth, e.g.
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- for god’s sake
- for heaven’s sake
- give up the ghost
- god damn you
- god when you really mean nature.
- god to refer to Jehovah, as if he were the only possible god, and as if you tacitly concede he exists, a god, one of a set of fictitious beings with certain grandiose attributes, thus stubbornly lumping the god Jehovah and Apollo always in the same category.
- met his maker
- passed on
- passed over
- rest in peace
- Speaking of Moses, David and Jesus as historical personages when the evidence is they are fictional characters.
Almost every day some Christian threatens me with eternal torture. Almost never does he give me a reason why that threat might be genuine. It is as though he were threatening to sic a herd of flying pigs on me.
Could you imagine two paleontologists disagreeing on the age of some fossil threatening to murder the other’s children if they did not agree? Threats are a sign of utter desperation, that you have no facts to back your argument.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians have no evidence to support their beliefs, so like any other thugs, they resort to threats and violence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Token Animal
Canadians use the beaver, a monogamous industrious vegetarian as their emblem. The Americans use the bald eagle, a predator that steals its food from other predators. The Muslims use the bee. Perhaps the Christians should use the mosquito, a conceited mosquito.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is odd that Christians are so keen on torture. Have they forgotten their saviour was tortured to death by crucifixion?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christian Transform
I can’t explain it.
Nobody can explain it.
Jehovah must have done it.
This obviously not so. Just because you can’t explain relativity does not mean Einstein could not. Just because nobody can provide an intuitive model for quantum mechanics in no means adding Jehovah would help.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Because Christianity is a fairy tale, Christians come to expect the truth to be a simple as a fairy tale. They refuse to spend any work at all learning about how the universe really works. That would take effort. Instead they prefer to listen to creationist lies about science because that takes no effort.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine a fireman asked Where’s the fire?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
and a Christian answered On the fourth floor, suite 427.
The firemen dragged their equipment to suite 427 and discovered there was nothing there. The fireman confronted the Christian You lied to us.
The Christian answered Nope. With absolute certainty it is suite 427.
How do you know?
I don’t need evidence. I am a Christian.
But you pretended to know when you didn’t.
I was 100% truthful [What he meant was, I told you what I truly believed]. You have to have faith. That is why you cannot see the fire, but I can. It is like The Emperor’s New Clothes.
Is the Christian deluded or putting the firemen on?
Adults can donate their kidneys and corneas after they die. Embryos can donate their stem cells that others might walk. Christian superstition demands these valuable gifts be burned or buried.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Normally Christian beliefs seems so nutty, that I never entertain them. However, when I was a boy, there was a kid, K. two years older than me who lead a small gang, who almost every day of my elementary and junior high life, beat me up. I recently discovered that when he grew up, he was convicted for trafficking a long list of drugs. Later in life he became a wealthy real estate con man. When the authorities were closing in, he died of a drug overdose, possibly a suicide.
I thought to myself, K. is a classic example of the kind of person that Christians say get tortured for eternity. The odd thing was then I started thinking thoughts like this I don’t want him tortured on my account. I wonder if there is anything I could do to get him pardoned. He has surely been tortured adequately by now ( 19 later.) God is quite insane, completely out of control. Yes, K. was quite a sadistic kid, but eternal torture is way out of proportion to his crimes. These Christian notions of vengeance are so much in the air (especially when I was a child) that I slipped into them without thinking.
My rational mind reminds me that K. is dead. Nobody is torturing him. Jehovah the torturer is an imaginary bogey man.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian View of Christians
One of the most amusing things about Christians is that they imagine others see them as morally superior to everyone else. Christian morality is 3000 years out of date. Thankfully, even Christians ignore most of it. Their good behaviour is motivated by fear of torture. They imagine this makes them superior to those motivated by love. Christians ignore the statistics that show high Christianity implies high crime, high divorce, high teen pregnancy and high abortion. What sort of morality leaves it up to an invisible man to solve the world’s problems?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian vs Jewish Traditions on Asking Questions
17% of Jews are atheist. The Jews have a very old tradition of debating the Torah. This questioning gradually lead to abandoning naïve views of god. In contrast, Christians are discouraged from even asking questions, but less debating the answers. Christians value a cow-like stupidity and unquestioning acceptance. Cretin is derived from the French word for Christian.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian vs Satanist
There are tens of thousands of gods, some beneficent some evil. Consider the possibility the Christian god is one of the evil ones and the Christian church is an evil institution, pretending to be virtuous. Look at the fruits.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian vs Scientist
Christians complain that scientists only deal with a subset of reality. Scientists complain that Christian lie by claiming their wild speculations are absolute truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are at their worst when someone dies, exploiting the bereaved for money for magic ceremonies and pummeling them to convert when they are at their most vulnerable.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian Wealth Distribution
Unscrupulous people manage to trick gullible people into handing over their money. Over time then, Christians will tend to be both the richest and poorest people in the USA, but under-represented in the middle.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian! You Are A phony
Hey Christian! You are a phony. You don’t believe most of that nonsense you give lip service too. It is just that you think pretending to believe it helps your status in the community. You are a hypocrite, liar and coward. Challenge yourself:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Explain to someone dying of some particularly nasty disease, e.g. pancreatic cancer, that your god could heal them in an instant, but because he loves them, chooses not to. Prepare to be spat at for peddling your bullshit. Explain why your church does all it can to prevent him/her from seeking help to die early to cut out some of the suffering from terminal illness.
- Go to Africa and explain to some 6 year old abandoned orphans that god loves them too, though he won’t provide any food and he lets cruel men sexually abuse them. Explain why you are 25 kg (55.12 lbs) overweight and have never donated so much as a dime to help feed these kids.
- Go to Afghanistan and explain to mothers why soldiers who belonged to your church came to kill their pre-school children. Explain how you know your god is so much more merciful than theirs.
Christianity = Smallpox
What would you think of someone who deliberated harboured small pox and infected others? Christians harbour delusions seriously harmful to mankind and deliberately attempt to infect others with them, especially their beliefs that god will automatically clean up any environmental mess or damage made by man, including climate change.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is an Anti-Moral Force
Christians claim that you need to believe in Jehovah to behave morally. They ask, what other motivation to be have well is there other than fear of being roasted alive after death? I counter that belief in such a monster makes people behave even worse than they would otherwise.
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) more
- The School of the Americas is run by Christians. It teaches the arts of torture and terror to South American dictators. The torture arts were perfected by the church for extracting confessions from suspected heretics and heretics.
- Most of the soldiers who went to Viet Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq were Christian. They slaughtered civilians, men, women and children who were no threat to the USA. They were able to do this because the civilians were a different religion and hence considered worthless.
- Jews invaded and occupied Palestine in 1948. They justified this crime using their holy book. Historically, Christianity is a schism from Judaism.
- Muslim suicide bombers likely would not have attacked on 9/11 if they were not convinced they would immediately enjoy an afterlife. Islam is a splinter religion from Christianity.
- Like all immoral people, Jerry Falwell convinced himself that his own sick desires were also his god’s. So all that belief in his deity did was give him more certainty to commit evil.
- Animals and humans were taking good care of their offspring for eons before Jehovah was even conceived.
- In 1985 I sold my fully-paid for four-bedroom house and all my belongings and donated all the proceeds to help with the Ethiopian famine. I most certainly was not motivated by fear of or expectation of reward from a non-existent god. I was motivated by seeing film of the suffering.
- Surely you do not claim atheists Voltaire, Carl Sagan and Richard Dawkins are immoral. Surely you do not claim famous Christians like Hitler, Pope Ratzinger (pope of pedophiles) and Fred Phelps were.
Christianity and First Nations People
10,000 years ago, long before the Old Testament was even a set of oral stories, long before the Christians admit the world even existed, people were crossing from Asia to settle in North America. They have their own history that has nothing to do with Christianity (until the Christians came and gave them gifts of blankets seeded with smallpox and stole their lands). How could the myths of a desert people on the other side of the world have any relevance to them? What stupendous arrogance of that pathetic tribe to trumpet that their local customs were the only acceptable customs, beliefs and myths for the whole universe, when none of them had ever travelled more than 50 km (31.07 miles) from their birthplace and had utterly no idea what was going out outside their back yard!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Can Be Cured
Please fund research for the mentally-disfiguring disease of Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Can Be Cured
Yes, we can find a cure for Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Causes Bad Behaviour
Not only is Christianity untrue, believing its lies makes 2/3 of people behave worse than they would have otherwise.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Causes Brain Atrophy
Perhaps one of the most negative effects of religion is it causes the brain to atrophy. Having a conversation with a Christian is a bit like having a conversation with a badly-programmed Chatty Kathy doll. They just start spouting meaningless gibberish and go on that way for sentences at a time.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Causes Divorce
The highest divorce rate is in the states with most conservative religious views. This suggests these views are unrealistic and toxic to relationships.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Causes Insanity
Christianity causes insanity, in the legal sense of being unable to distinguish right from wrong. Most Christians consider it more wicked to get a blowjob, masturbate, abort a fertilised egg or smoke a joint than to torture and kill a child in Iraq.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Causes STDs
The highest STD (Sexually Transmitted Disease) rates are in the states with most conservative religious views. This suggests abstinence-only is unrealistic and counter-productive.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is a Choice
People choose to become Christian. People choose to become bigots. They have no excuse.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity the Couch Potato
Fighting Christianity is like fighting a 453.59 kg (½ ton) cretinous couch potato. You strike and your arm is engulfed in the pasty flesh. It stolidly endures simply because of its bulk.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If I told you about a man who thought sex was disgusting, who had never done anything in sex but the missionary position, whose sex acts always last less than 3 minutes, you know he is a Christian.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christianity Game
Christians play a game where they try to spin every horrible or insignificant event as if it had deep positive meaning. They can’t say She died of cancer. That sucks. They need a fairy story/lie like God needed another soprano for the choir.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is in Bad Taste
I would reject Christianity on taste alone. It is kitsch. It is corny. It is ham-fisted, subtle as Hee Haw. It is silly. It is the Patsy Kline of religions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity in a Nutshell
Basically, Christianity is a con game to get people to hand over their money. Threatening torture after death helps reel in the dumb ones. Once rubes are reeled in, the preacher can steal them from other churches by telling them that hell was a lie all along. The key to Christianity is getting parents to sell the con to their kids while they are still too young to realise how silly it is.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is Just Another Religion
As a Christian, you believe every other religion is a con. Its founders and priests pretended to speak for god to gain power over others. What is so different about Christianity that makes you so certain it is different? Do not the pedophile scandals give you pause about its integrity?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Lacks Any Appeal
Christianity is such nonsense that the only way I could see anyone falling for it is by deliberately avoiding learning anything about it. Scholars know it is as loony as an Action Comic plot. Yet Christians pretend not to notice.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Makes Death Worse
Death is naturally sad, but Christians have made it terrifying.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Makes Life Less Tolerable
It seems to me, if I were broke and suffering from nausea, incontinence and a toothache, that it would just add to my misery to imagine a vengeful invisible man in the clouds were persecuting me with these troubles.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is a Mental Illness
Christianity is a form of mental illness. We don’t treat it as such because it is epidemic. The crazies have taken over entire countries.
There is a tendency to want to excoriate the Christians for their revolting behaviour, but it is just a symptom of their delusions. Most of them did not choose to be deluded. They were brainwashed into it with horrifying threats and, very often, beatings. Christianity officially teaches that beating children is required behaviour.
So hate the delusion and have compassion for those afflicted by it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Is Not Monotheistic
Christians claim they are a monotheistic religion, yet they have a father, son and holy ghost. Further, they worship Mary and hundreds of saints in the churches using graven images. That sounds like polytheism and idolatry to me.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity Is Not Monotheistic
Christians like to claim their religion is better than others because it is monotheistic. Strictly speaking, it is not monotheistic. They have god the father, god the son, Jesus, Mother Mary, the holy ghost, the angels, the devil, the demons, Moses and the saints. But only the monotheistic religions have crusades and jihads because their master god is petty and vain and cannot tolerate rivals That is nothing to be proud of.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is Not a Special Case
All Christians are atheists with respect to the Norse god Thor and the Hindu god Hanuman. They even applaud me for being that sort of atheist. The only sense that matters to them is atheist relative to Jesus. If I were debating Hindus, then my atheism toward Jesus would be applauded or taken for granted and my atheism toward Hanuman excoriated. To an atheist like me, Christianity is just another of the 60,000 religions created by man, nothing special about it at all. Christians don’t realise how provincial they are in their debating, insisting on treating Christianity as a special case.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity older that Aztec
Most people would consider it absurd and barbaric if the Aztecs continued to practice their religion of human sacrifice to this day. I consider it even more absurd that Christians practice their ritual cannibalism religion, unmodified, even older than the Aztec religion to this day.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity as Parasite
A parasite is a creature that lives off its host. It does not care if its host suffers or dies. By that definition Christians are parasites on planet earth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
No matter how ridiculous Christianity is when you analyse it, it still terrifies people who were taught it as toddlers. The fear of hellfire is very convincing. It might help to remember that priests of almost every one of the 60,000 other religions sell their religions the same way. Those threats don’t scare you only because you have not been repeatedly exposed to them. I read the Qur’an cover to cover. It gave me nightmares for months. Even though I rejected it logically, the images of torment were so vivid, they still snuck into my subconscious. There is nothing unique about the Christian threats. There is no reason to take them any more seriously than Muslim threats.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are perfectly ordinary mentally healthy people whose mothers deliberately traumatised them as toddlers with a fear of a bogeyman who was planned to roast them alive for eternity. Their foolish mothers thought this treatment would in some strange way be beneficial. This trauma behaves like a virus. It controls the mind and browbeats the poor Christian to infect others. The terror overrides reason, much the way a fear of snakes or spiders does.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity vs Atheism
The difference between Christianity and atheism is this. When a Christian convinces you he is right, he immediately hits you up for 10% of your income for the rest of your life. A atheist does not. An atheist does not even ask you to show up once a week for singing or to go evangelising.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity vs Islam
Though Islam is more hostile to outsiders than Christianity, Mohammed is a much kinder sympathetic character than Jesus. Mohammed claimed no divinity, just that he took dictation for god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity, a Near Perfect Con
As cons go, Christianity is a remarkable achievement. It victims rarely demand compensation or prosecution of those that took them. It has such prestige, that even those who know it is a con, usually succumb to social pressure to respect it and pretend to take its claims seriously and remain silent about its criminality. It enjoys an untouchable status similar to the Mafia in Sicily or the drug cartels in Bagotá.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity: a Backward Step
In one way, Christianity was a big backward step from Judaism. Jews were concerned with what you do, how well you followed the Torah — the law, the instruction. Modern Christian are far more interested in what you believe that what you do. Christians are quite happy to endlessly forgive child molesters so long as they profess the correct beliefs, e.g. that they have been saved or born again or slain in the spirit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity: The One True Religion?
Even if there were a god, there is still the small matter of why should we think that Christianity alone of all the 60,000 religions got it right? What makes Christianity different? — The claim Jesus is God (to the Muslims he is a prophet with the same status as Moses). The problem is, the archaeological evidence says Jesus started life out as a character of fiction, with stories gradually added, hardly the evidence you would expect of the one true religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity’s Biggest Problem
Christianity’s biggest problem is that Christians cannot get their story straight.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A person who is not too bright or who has a tenuous hold on reality is vulnerable to Christians. He takes them literally when they tell him the devil is plotting to harm him, the devil lives in him, that he will be much happier after he is dead, that there is a bearded man in the clouds spying on him at all times, that he will be punished for eternity for masturbation or even thinking about sex or that he is personally and fully responsible for the torture Jesus underwent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and Cannibalism
Because of their death superstitions, Christians hold cannibalism, even of people who die by natural causes, to be a more serious crime than murder.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and Causes
Christians have a schizophrenic view of causality. They believe humans have free will, namely their actions have no previous causes, but they believe everything else, including the universe itself, must have a previous cause.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and Climate Change Deniers
Christianity and climate change denial often go together. Why? Both involve wishful thinking. Christians count on not dying with only the remotest chance of success. Climate change deniers use wishful thinking to convince themselves there is only a very small chance the earth is in danger. They are pathological optimists. They make a virtue of lying to themselves, calling it faith.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and Contraception
Christians are irresponsible wanting to avoid contraception given that the earth has many times more people that it can sustain. What is unbelievably outrageous is them demanding to interfere in the family planning of non-Christians, as if they knew better.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and Leprechauns
When I was a little boy, my dad told me a bedtime story about a man who managed to capture a leprechaun. He used intensive interrogation techniques to get the leprechaun to show him where his treasure was buried. The man then wrapped his gold scarf around the tree to mark the spot. He then somehow extracted a magic unbreakable promise from the leprechaun not to disturb the scarf. The man then went off to get something to transport the treasure. When he got back to the forest, he discovered that every tree now had an identical gold scarf. The leprechaun had kept his word. The man was a not-that-bright thug and thief who fully deserved his disappointment.
This story reminds me of Christians who tell me that I should join their religion because ancients wrote in a book that Jesus was born of a virgin, a miracle with no possible explanation other than divine intervention. What they relentlessly ignore is that those same ancients also alleged that thousands of other august people were born of a virgin too.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and Republicans Use the Same Con
You can see how the Christian con works most clearly in the way the Republicans played it during the 2009 health care debate. Loudly, dripping with theatrical emotion, they beseeched God to intervene to deny the poor health care. The idea was to sell the notion that health care for the poor was evil, even though Jesus himself reputedly spent most of his time healing the poor. Since God never speaks, the unscrupulous can always safely speak on his behalf.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and Science
Christians often claim they reject science. They may even claim that all scientists are in league with the devil. Yet these same Christians use telephones, cellphones, computers, electricity, airplanes, cars, pharmaceuticals, canned food, refrigeration, microwave ovens, central heating, modern dentistry… If they were honest, they would reject all the fruits of science.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Are Easy Marks
It is no coincidence that con men so frequently target Christians. Christian are easy marks because they have been conditioned since birth to trust someone just because they frequently say thank you Jesus. Christians have been trained to believe outlandish claims without evidence. Christians have been taught to expect fantastic rewards without effort. Christians have been instructed it is improper to ask questions or doubt authority. Christians are softened up from a lifetime of being conned by the church without complaint.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are Legally Insane
Kristianity causes insanity, in the legal sense of being unable to distinguish right from wrong. Most Kristians consider it more wicked to get a blowjob, masturbate, abort a fertilised egg or smoke a joint than to torture and kill a child in Iraq.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Are Mentally Ill
There is little difference between a Christian and a mentally ill person suffering from delusions. A Christian suffers less stigma because there are so many sharing the affliction. Christians are far more dangerous because they act in concert cross-stimulating a common delusion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Are Not Serious About An Afterlife
If Christians truly believed in an afterlife, they would be eager to die, like Muslim terrorists. But they are more cautious and they cling to life even more than people who openly deny an afterlife.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are Soulless
Christians like to loudly proclaim they are 120% sure they have a soul or that someone they despise lacks one. I don’t know how you tell given that souls are weightless, invisible and completely undetectable. Proclaiming you have soul as is as silly as proclaiming you have a 38.10 cm (1¼ ft) undetectable penis superimposed on your usual one.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Are Such Utter Nitwits
Christians are such utter nitwits because they believe they can, purely through faith, live forever. Why don’t they try something a little easier to start, such as using faith, wishful thinking and prayer to fly up onto the roof?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians At NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration)
If a Christian fundamentalist were put in charge of NASA, he would fire all the scientists and hire a farmer who said, All ya have ta do is fill a big pipe with dynamite, point it at where ya wants ta go, light the fuse, an’ pray.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Behave Worse
A university study discovered that Christianity caused 1/3 of its practitioners to behave better and 2/3 to behave worse. Would you prescribe a drug that made two thirds of the patients sicker and had the side effect of causing delusions?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Behaving Badly
During the dark ages, Christians had everything 100% their way. Yet people behaved worse that at any other time in history. Murder rates were 30 times higher than now. How can Christians possibly claim their religious dogmas are necessary for public morality? As the tide of Christianity has ebbed, war, murder and rape have all subsided.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined
Christians Cause Sexual Dysfunction
Christians love terrifying and bullying children. No wonder so many adults have sexual dysfunction problems.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Completely Ignore Jesus
There are no Christians, only people who claim to be Christian. There is hardly a single sentence attributed to Jesus that Christians do not all ignore.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians as Cowering Children
Christians are like children frightened of the dark, clutching their teddy bears, trusting them to protect them from all harm.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Dedicate Their Lives to Creating Misery
The Christian propaganda machine pumps out the notion that Christians are the good people and everyone else is not. Just think, are Christians truly just the same, more likely or less likely that average to make life miserable for others?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Don’t Believe Their Own Lies
There was a newspaper article about a 12 year old girl who missed her dead father so much she hanged herself to be with him in heaven. Even Christians recognise this as a tragic story. Even they see what she did as foolish. Even Christians know in their hearts this afterlife story is bullshit, or else they would find the story endearing and the little girl brave and loving. So isn’t it time to stop teaching this crap to impressionable children? Isn’t it time to stop teaching it to soldiers too?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Imagine They Are Qualified to Control Others
One of the most serious consequences of a Christianity infection is the subject believes they are more qualified than other people to run their lives and attempts using means legal and illegal to control others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians in Nature
If you ever go into the wilds with a Christian they will not talk about what they see. They will instead distract themselves with fantasies about an imaginary man in the sky or their coming afterlife. They behave like a teenager with a an MP3 player glued to her ear as she canoes. They want to be cocooned from experiencing the here and now.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Know They Are Frauds
It is pathetic that Christianity is wrong on so many points of fact. It is infuriating that the leaders of Christianity are well aware they are perpetuating a fraud. It is alarming that evangelical Christians want to terminate freedom of religion and impose their beliefs on everyone through force of law.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Love Inconsistency
Atheists go apoplectic debating with Christians. They prove to the Christian that he must be wrong, beyond a shadow of a doubt, by pointing out how his beliefs are not consistent. The Christian is not in the least impressed. He has been trained since birth to embrace inconsistency. He feels no shame in believing mutually incompatible things or the logically absurd. The Christian decides if something is true only by how it feels in his gut, which has nothing whatsoever to do with logic. An atheist debating a Christian is the similar to a parent reasoning with a daughter about her choice of boyfriend. The daughter’s attraction has nothing to do with reason. It is similar to why it is so difficult to reason a child out of fear of monsters under the bed. The attachment to Christianity is emotional not rational.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Making Things Worse, Yet Again
During the black plague in Europe, Christians tortured and killed randomly chosen innocent people hoping to convince their god to call off the plague. Christianity made the problem much worse than it need have been.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians as Mildly Retarded
Christians are like a mildly retarded younger brother who well into adulthood keeps on believing the stories their older brother told them about Santa Claus and the bogey man under the bed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians more Malicious Than Criminals
Christians since the beginning have repeatedly endlessly that they are far more moral than non-believers. They have everyone cowed, afraid to point out how evil they truly are, as if it would be impolite to notice or call them on it. It is not as though they are exceptionally virtuous people with a few flaws; they hurt more people than the criminal classes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians On Evil
Christians will be the first to tell you that man, not god is responsible for all the evil on earth, even though god is allegedly omnipotent and beneficent. Oddly though, Christians are first to block any government attempt to alleviate that misery.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians on Fisheries
If a Christian fundamentalist were put in charge of the Department of Fisheries he would say Kitsch all you want, any way you want. If Jesus kin find fish, they must always be abundant, maybe just hidin’.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians on TV
Think about a Christian you have seen on TV. Ostensibly, they were trying to sell you some crackpot idea, e.g. that you could pray away your cancer, or that you could use a green handkerchief to triple your income, or that a book that was wrong on every point of science or archaeology was perfectly reliable. But always, appeared at the bottom of the screen, an appeal for money for God. You have seen their mansions, so you know where that money really goes. However, when a scientist comes on TV and starts telling you mind-blowing things about the universe, there is never such an appeal for money. Christianity is really about conning people out of money. The whacko ideas are just the bait. Science is about sharing discoveries.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Still Primitive
Christians talked of civilising the heathens. In particular they looked down on those who did human or animal sacrifice or who committed cannibalism. Oddly, they failed to recognise the central feature of Christianity was a human sacrifice and that communion is symbolic (though claimed actual) cannibalism.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians As Stupid Sports Fans
Christians are extremely boring to debate with. All they do is tell you their feelings, as if that any relevance whatsoever to truth. They never offer any reasons to support their assertions. They are like rabid sports teams who cannot quote a single fact to support their claim their team is the best. They imagine their own enthusiasm should be totally convincing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Torment the Dying
There is nothing so pathetic as someone faking a smiling face, or telling stories of preposterous optimism in the face of certain doom. It makes the doom seem even worse. It implies the doom is so awful, you cannot even acknowledge it. What a cruel stunt Christians pull on someone who is dying!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians Trains Anders Breivik
Christians won’t want to embrace Anders Breivik, the Norwegian summer camp shooter, but they are the ones who trained him to have absolute confidence without evidence. This is the heart of terrorist thinking. He may be motivated by politics, but his insane conviction is rooted in religious training.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians vs Satanists
The main difference between Satanists and Christians is Satanists don’t claim to be morally superior to everyone else. The second difference is Christians imagine they have a right to meddle in the private lives of others, based on their misappropriated moral authority.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians vs. Scientologists
Since neither Scientology nor Christianity can present any evidence for their beliefs, I conclude that the odds either is true is vanishingly small. Since there is no truth in either religion, it makes sense to judge the religions by how well their adherents behave. In that department, the Christians have a long history of killing and torturing non-believers, supporting slavery, exploiting people in the third world and enabling pedophilic rape, something the Scientologists have not done on a mass scale.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians, Get Stuffed
Hey Christian! I have a bone to pick with you. First you tried to con me out of my money. Then you tried to get me hand over my kid for you to boink. Then you insulted me with gibberish and silly promises and idle threats, laughing at me, expecting me to fall for your holier and wiser than thou routine. You are playing one of the oldest, most polished cons. Get stuffed!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The winter solstice has been celebrated in all lands that have winter since the beginning of time. To a primitive mind, the days getting shorter and shorter could well be the end of the world. Suddenly it turns around. We are saved! Whatever magic we used must have worked.
There is not much work that needs doing at that time of year. It is a good time to party, eat, drink, visit, play. The Christians have tried to hijack this and act as though there is something terribly wrong with anyone who does not put a towel on their head and put a plastic camel in the front yard. They stole customs from other cultures and religions and pretended to own the symbols, e.g. gift giving, the yule log and the Christmas tree. They try very hard at this time of year to put on a full court recruiting press. Of course, corporations have even more successfully hijacked the season.
Christmas (despite the name) is not the exclusive property of Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Christians borrowed nearly all their Christmas customs, especially from the Romans. However, they often act as if they are the sole custodians of Christmas and are authorised to chastise non-Christians for the way they celebrate it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christmas Lapse In Taste
At Christmas, all the rules for good taste in music fly out the window. Nothing is too corny, kitsch, overwrought or amateurish for endless repetition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christmas music is an attempt to install absurd beliefs with mind-numbing repetition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I detest Christmas music. But it is not because of associated trauma as a psychologist on the CBC hypothesised.
Christmas pop music is repetitive, simplistic and schmaltzy. There should be a law allowing only one airing for each song per season.
The second reason I detest it is it lets Christians impose their rather pathetic religion and propaganda on everyone else. Freedom from religion is ignored for the month of December. Christians get to rule the world and force their kitsch (mindless propaganda) on everyone else.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Around Christmas I have to turn off my radio to avoid being suffocated in schmaltz.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christmas Was Never Christian
Christians decry the way Christmas has become secular and commercial. They forget that in the 1700s in England and America the churches did not celebrate Christmas at all. Christmas was a combination of Saturnalia, Halloween, New Year’s Eve and Mardi Gras. The main activities were drinking, feasting, trick or treating and licentiousness.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christmas Without Christ
Christmas is primarily a celebration of retail sales. That function shadows everything else. Christmas shopping starts in September. Then there is the traditional meal, the lights, the tree, the stockings, the cards, the decorations. None of these have any religious significance. Christians try to hog Christmas as theirs exclusively, when it belongs to everyone. You don’t have to buy into the nativity or church going. When atheists post billboards saying Who needs Christ at Christmas they are just pointing out the obvious fact that Christmas is for everyone, not just Christians and that you can participate fully in Christmas without any religious component. Christians, of course, are completely welcome to celebrate Christmas with the Jesus stories. Christians such as Sean Hannity claim such a billboard insults them. They assume everyone is Christian and the message is aimed only at them, with no other purpose than to poke them in the eye. That makes no sense. Just as Christians aim their billboards at Christians, atheists aim their billboards at atheists. Christians are high handed. They want to censor what atheists say to atheists simply because they disagree.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Church and HIV
Let us say that an virgin girl is pushed into a marriage with a much older man with HIV. In that case, the Catholic Church says, this is an indissoluble sacrament. They must not use birth control to prevent the birth of HIV-infected children or to prevent infecting the wife. The church had the same attitudes toward syphilis when it could not be cured. This sounds like something Nazis would cook up. How dare they get on their moral high horse when they are deliberately infecting children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
From the point of view of capitalists, churches are the perfect business:
- They don’t pay taxes.
- Customers keep on paying until they die.
- Customers automatically up their payments if their income rises.
- Customers have no expectations.
- The product sold, a promise of a eternal bliss after death, costs nothing to produce and does not have to be delivered.
- Almost no costs, just a meeting hall to collect the cash.
More accurately they are the world’s oldest con.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Church Control Of Marriage
The church has incredible cheek to demand that it has the right to decide who can partner up and who cannot and further to demand tribute for an expensive ceremony for anyone pairing up. For centuries the church has claimed anyone who ignores their impudence is living in sin~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Perhaps one of the less obvious, but most serious, crime of the church is tricking people into being submissive to oppression. Slavemasters forced Christianity on slaves to make them meek. Modern day American blacks submit to inequality and financial oppression because the church teaches them too. The pattern is repeated throughout the third world. Part of the lie is convincing the marks that life does not matter. It is short, just a test for eternal life after death.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In order to control people, the church frightens them about perfectly ordinary things like puberty and death. This is so out-in-the-open and so traditional we don’t usually notice what a cruel, evil thing this is.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Church Gets Away with Pedophilia Scandals
If any other institution but the church had been caught in mass pedophilic rapes, sexual and physical child abuse, all those responsible would have been driven out of society and all the institutions involved, disbanded.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Averaged over all churches, only 29% of contributions go to real world helping. Televangelists such as Joyce Meyer are lower, about 10%. By comparison 91% of Red Cross contributions do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Church Meddling in Sex Education
The churches have no more business meddling in the sex education needed to contain the global AIDS epidemic than epidemiologists have censoring the sermons of pastors.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Have you ever looked into what it takes to found a church or new denomination? Have you ever wondered why people keep founding new churches, pretty much the same as the existing ones? Have you ever considered what the official church designation gets you legally?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- You don’t pay taxes.
- You get to legally beg money from people and legally accept the donations. You don’t pay taxes on that.
- The Church designation gives you remarkable legal immunity. You can tell the flock any silly thing you please, including things that would harm their health. You can rape children. You can swindle the elderly out of their life savings.
- You can con people into giving you money using any lies you could conceive of, including, of course, false promises. You will not be prosecuted.
Church Proved Impotent
In the dark ages everyone found out the church was completely impotent when it came to the plague. It had no power at all to influence god. Today we have forgotten that lesson.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
93% of churches in the USA are still segregated.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Church Supports An Evil Dictatorship
Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe is the most psychotic, sadistic dictator alive today. Guess who are his main supporters? All of the 130 Christian churches!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Church Urges Genocide
Rwanda is the most Catholic country in Africa. During the genocide, priests and nuns broadcast from their church radio stations urgings to murder fellow citizens.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Churches Want To Control Who Pairs With Who
For centuries, the churches convinced the population that no relationship was legitimate without church blessing. They convinced everyone, believer and atheist alike, that forming a relationship without this blessing was an unforgivable sin and that any children born were illegitimate bastards The notion is so universal that not even atheists noticed how high-handed and patriarchal it was. To this day churches strive to retain the power to decide who can pair up with who, blocking same sex couples for instance or interfaith marriages. They want to control everyone, not just their own flocks.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
How did the insanity of infant circumcision get started? Circumcision was used as a tribal badge, a way of telling if someone was in or out. That seems odd. You’d think a tattoo more easily visible would work better. Given that Jehovah demanded anyone who put an adult penis in his mouth put to death, it seems odd he would demand rabbis put bloody infant penes in their mouths. Jewish parents, for religious reasons, put their sons through the pain and health risks (herpes) of circumcision. If they did it for any strong reason, we would likely lock them up. It is bizarre that, in the law, irrational motivation trumps rational. Further, if anybody but a mohel sucked on an infant’s penis, he would be locked up. We make a special religious exception to the law.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Why would parents hand over their newborn son to an unsanitary and painful procedure such as circumcision? They do it to prove they are dedicated members of the religious community. It is like a tribal tattoo or scaring.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Circumcision is Assault
In my view, male or female circumcision without the informed consent of the circumcised should be considered an assault. The courts are beginning to agree with me. They convicted a man of assault who tried to remove his son’s foreskin with a carpet knife. The Supreme Court of BC refused to hear his conviction. Mohels still are getting away with it, even when they are infected with herpes and suck the blood out of the penis wound with their mouths causing infection.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) source source)
Circumcision Without Consent
Eventually, it will be a crime to circumcise a male or female without their consent, even an infant. Claiming religious tradition as an excuse will be as irrelevant as using it as an excuse for burning someone at the stake.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Claiming to Know
Christians like to pretend they know all manner of details about god, and his thoughts, yet they cannot even produce evidence of his existence. How can they know anything about an invisible, undetectable being? This is all just made up. They are just as silly as if they claimed to know whether fairies like sugar or honey on their cornflakes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Claiming to Know the Mind of God
The job of someone who studies moral philosophy is to tell you about the history of what people believed on such questions as the morality of war. They are BSing if they pretend to know the mind of god on such matters.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Claiming the Moral High Ground
When Christians protest the presence of a female atheist student by pouring a bucket of urine over her and burying her washroom in feces, how can they claim the high ground that Christianity is necessary for anyone to behave morally.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) The March of Reason 2 of 5
Claims and Evidence
The more grandiose the claims a religion makes, the less evidence it can muster to support them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cleansing the Earth of Christians
If Christianity were such a great religion why does everyone fantasise about god cleaning the earth of them by hoovering them off into the sky?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clear Water ⇒ God
A woman once told me that the fact water was colourless was proof of the existence of god. I retorted What colour would water be if there were no god?. In the Christian view, god assigns colours to objects purely on artistic grounds. It is completely arbitrary.
Science has a much more complex view. Quantum mechanics says that a material can only absorb or emit energy in discrete packets called quanta. These may correspond to visible light, invisible ultraviolet or invisible infrared. You have probably been to a mineral museum lit by black (ultraviolet) light. The minerals glow in the dark. They are absorbing quanta of UV (ultraviolet) and emitting quanta of visible light. Which wavelengths (colours of the spectrum) they absorb and emit depends on the states of the electrons in clouds around the atoms. The precise colours can be predicted mathematically as part of the science of spectroscopy. Water could not be other than colourless given its chemical composition. It neither emits nor absorbs. It will never change. I learned this in grade 11 chemistry in Canada.
So ironically, if water had been anything other than colourless, it would have sent the scientists reeling. If water turned pink every Easter, I think that would convince almost everyone of the validity of at least some Christian claims, but it does not and nothing remotely like it happens either.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clergyman = Con Man
Asking could a physicist also be a clergyman is roughly the same as asking could a physicist also be a con man.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Since the clergy claim to be able to convert wine into blood and wafers into the flesh of a dead man, we should call them by their proper names: magicians, shamans, con men…~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clinging to an Imposed Religion
When the Europeans colonised North America and Africa they imposed Christianity on the people living there. Oddly, now the pressure is off, indigenous people still cling to the imposed religion. It is disgusting.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clinging To Delusion
Deluded people maintain their delusion by fastidiously ignoring any evidence that counters the delusion. They treat those trying to prick the bubble of delusion as enemies. The delusion gives them a sense of great importance and power. It is always to some extent, a delusion of grandeur, even paranoia (that the universe would single them out for attack). Delusions are much simpler than reality. They are a way of filtering out an overload of information.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clinging To Delusion
If a con man spiritualist reveals the tricks of cold reading that he uses to simulate talking to dead relatives, his audience will be furious. They desperately want their delusion. They imagine they gain comfort from the deception. Christians are much the same about clinging to their delusions even when they are pretty sure they are empty. Richard Dawkins interviews Derren Brown on Cold Reading~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clinging To Error
When you confront a religious believer with errors and inconsistencies in their beliefs, how do they typically react? Irritation and anger. They don’t want to hear what you have to say. It is not like a belief in which grocery store has the cheapest cheese, or why Cro Magnons displaced Neanderthals in Europe where people are happy to learn corrected information. People strongly want to hold onto religious beliefs whether they are true or not.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Clones are Just Twins
Because of their notions of invisible souls, Christians imagine that issues such as the civil rights of clones are necessarily complicated. Yet nature produces clones naturally, every time it creates identical twins. We need treat artificial clones no differently.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When I was a teen, my mom warned me to stay away from Christians, whom she considered dangerous and insane. Of course, I rebelled by sneaking off to go to various churches to interview the people there to find out why they went to church, why they believed in a god and what they thought this god was like. I discovered that people could not answer my questions. They had only the vaguest notions about their religion. Essentially, they went to church because their parents had started taking them there as very young children and they got into the habit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine going to San Francisco and visiting the Golden Gate Bridge. There you meet a scruffy fellow sleeping on a park bench who introduces himself as Jehovah Jones, chief architect of the bridge. You take this golden opportunity to learn more about its construction back in 1930.
You ask How did you compute the ice and wind loads back then without computers? He replies What’s a load? You ask How did you arrange the order of construction so that it would hold up before all the suspension cables were in place? He replies What did you have in mind? You ask How did you manage to set those huge pillars partly under water? He replies We just dropped ’em from heliocopeters if I recall rightly. It begins to dawn on you this man is a fraud. He knows absolutely nothing about bridge construction.
In a similar way, Jehovah the god demonstrates no understanding of science, quantum mechanics, astronomy, geology or biology though he claims to have created them all. God is allegedly omniscient so he is supposed to have complete knowledge of all science. He too is a fraud.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is odd that Christians look to the most ignorant, least educated people for the source of all their information about science: Jesus, Moses, Mohammed etc. did not even know the earth was a sphere.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Coffins are irrational.
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- You make a fine piece of furniture, then destroy it. It would make much more sense to recycle coffins.
- The body rests on a pillowy cushion of satin, as if it were a newborn with exquisitely sensitive skin.
- The coffin is often lined in lead or concrete to delay the body’s decomposition. To what end?
- The body is filled with various poisonous fluids to delay the body’s decomposition. To what end?
Christians claim to extremely value absolute truth, yet they blatantly lie and cheat to support this truth. Surely they know they are doing this. What stops them exploding from the cognitive dissonance? Are they just simple con men who don’t believe a word they say? Or do some of them believe some of their own lies?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Collapse of the Churches
People are leaving the churches in ever accelerating numbers. Why?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- People feel uncomfortable with the church’s traditional teachings, e.g. hating homosexuals, suppressing women, demonic possession, encouragement of child abuse, opposition to birth control…
- Through the Internet, people are exposed to thinking outside their church, including science, atheists and non-Christian religions. They come to realise the foundations of the church are fictions.
- Once the church acted as a community centre. It was the community theatre, gym, meeting hall, food bank, centre for activities for the elderly… Now, it is an expensive building used only an hour a week. The church is shirking its traditional responsibilities.
Collecting For the Benefit of the Non-Existent
If I were to start collecting money on behalf of fictitious endangered Patagonian fire-eating fish, I could expect to cool my heels in jail, but if I did the same thing on behalf of a non-existent god, I will be applauded as a virtuous person, no matter how I spent the money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Collecting Money For God
This collecting money for god is such a scam. Allegedly, god created the universe. Surely he could create unlimited wealth if he wanted to. Further, not a penny of the money goes to god. Further, only a minute fraction of that money goes to good works. The rest goes to pampering the sellers of god, god’s con men. Even Mother Theresa collected money for the poor, then spent most of it on convents and gold altar decorations. Just look at the mansions, jets and limos of the TV evangelists and the megachurch pastors. That is what the boobs are buying with their tithes. They are lured with false promises of riches and pie in the sky after they die. My Christian landlady assured me she was completely certain she would have easy-to-clean solid gold countertops in her house in heaven, based on wishful thinking?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I look on combating Christianity as an endless chore, like doing the dishes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is so common to hear people to say something like, It is more comforting to me when I think of things as… That horrifies me. You don’t get to choose what you would like to be true. Religion has conned people into thinking the universe is a like a restaurant where you determine how it works by choosing from a menu or you just make it up.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Comfort Not Truth
Religion is a virtual thumb to suck. Comfort is all that matters, not truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Comfort or Truth
Atheists sacrifice comfort to find truth; Christians sacrifice truth to find comfort.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Comfort over Truth
In religion, comfort is all that matters, not truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If all you want is are comforting lies to help you deal with aging, losing your sex appeal, death etc. Why not make up your own? They can be ever so much more pleasant than the sour heavens religious people invent. And you don’t have to kowtow to anyone or pay them money for lying to you.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Comic Book Christians
Christianity is the comic book version for those who had trouble with second grade science.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I can hardly wait until science discovers the life is common in the cosmos and gains a foothold even on planets very different from earth. The Christian scoundrels will be scrambling to claim their scriptures never did claim earth was unique in the entire universe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Commanded By God
Religious fanatics behave worse than anyone else when they are given power because they are delusional imagining every crazy notion that pops into their head is a command direct from their god. That belief compels them to commit unspeakable atrocities they might even consciously find repellent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The ten commandments included some pretty minor sins and left out some major crimes like: rape, forced marriage, incest, polygamy and allowing someone to die when you could have helped them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Common to All Religions
Here are some features you will find common to almost all religions:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Hatred of homosexuals. Religionists believe that mistreating gays will convince them to marry and breed new members of the religion.
- False promises of what will happen after you die to extort money.
- Treating women as second class.
- Traditionalists. Distrust social or scientific change.
- Emphasis on faith. Distrusting reason. Obey, do not think for yourself.
Common Cold of Mental Illnesses
Christianity is the common cold of mental illnesses. It is a persistent set of delusions remarkably impermeable to contrary evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Common Cold of Mental Illnesses
Christianity is the common cold of mental illnesses.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Common Intelligent Life
What is going to happen when we discover that life and intelligent life, are common both in our galaxy and in the universe?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- We might re-evaluate how precious we consider life. It is super abundant, so perhaps not so sacred.
- The Christian notions of the universe being created solely for their delectation will look pretty silly.
- The notion that Christianity is some privileged religion will look preposterous.
- The notion that humans are the most important animals on the planet may be shaken.
- We may change our attitude to preserving the planet and protecting endangered species as we pick up on the galactic ethic.
- We may have to get used being treated like children by a galactic bureaucracy.
Comparing Four Religions
The three big problems to face in life are aging, sickness and death. Unless you can deal with them with equanimity, you are going to have a miserable time of it. The Buddhists tackle these problems as the central activities of their religion. The Jews, Christians and Muslims sweep them under the rug. They ignore aging and disease. All four religions try to pretend death does not exist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Every once in a while, I encounter a Christian such as Nancy Ford, Deacon to the city of Victoria who expresses enlightened attitudes. But she is like a stopped clock that is correct twice a day. Christians attitudes are based on tradition and faith (i.e. just made up without evidence). It is just a fluke when they are sensible, rational or compassionate.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the great puzzles is, if Jesus were the most important person in the world, pulling off spectacular miracles, why did none of the 21 historians of his day ever mention him or events associated with him, like the 3-hour darkening of the sun (ok, maybe it just ducked behind a cloud), or the zombie saints, or the triumphal donkey ride? It gets stranger. There were about a dozen would-be messiahs wandering around at the time of Jesus. All of these losers made it into the history books, even though they were not a patch on Jesus. Why? The more you study, the more obvious it is that Jesus started as yet another of the dozens of mythological resurrection gods, and only later, in 161 AD at the Council of Alexandria, did his believers decide he would sell better as a historical figure.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is completely bullshit. Even discussing it with Christians is like playing with their poo in public.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Complicit In Child Rape
Pope Ratzinger has been caught in coverup after coverup of priests molesting and raping hundreds of children of both sexes. If you tithe to the Catholic church, the world’s biggest pedophile ring, you are complicit in these crimes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
Complicit In A Lie
If a reporter permits a lie to pass without so much as an eyebrow twitch, he is complicit in that lie and should be held responsible for lying too.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Compromise With Christians
When I was eight, I wanted to attend the YMCA (Young Men’s Christian Association) summer fun program. I watched my Dad fill in the form putting a dash in for religion, then modifying it by turning the dash in the bar of a G and spelling out ANGLICAN. I had never heard the word before and I asked what that meant. Dad said they might not let me in if we did not pretend to have a religion and Anglican was a historical family religion. I was quite horrified that my Dad would lie that way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
To me, it is obvious the people running the churches, especially the TV ministries, are running a con. Just look how they spend the money on luxuries. Why would you believe a word they say? Why would the existence of gods, heavens and hells even be a consideration, considering the source?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Con Man Argument
Christians like to claim that believing without evidence is especially virtuous. But then believing in the Easter Bunny laying eggs, Santa’s toy factory at the North Pole, the Loch Ness Monster and that Adolf Hitler (born:1889-04-20 died:1945-04-30 at age:56) is alive and living in Argentina are extremely virtuous acts. That is nonsense. It is a con-man’s argument.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Con Man Strategy
Con men convince their marks that believing in the improbable without evidence is a virtue. It makes their marks easier to gull.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Con Man Tricks
Imagine all the excuses a famous con man like Bernie Madoff may have given for why his marks could not see the books. Christians have a classic dodge to sell the god con. God will punish anyone who tests him. That must be one of the most brilliant works of con artistry in all history.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Every Christian should study up on con men, by reading a book like Maria Konnikova’s The Confidence Game: The Psychology of the Con and Why We Fall for it ... Every Time They will learn about the psychology of con men, their tricks for deception and why they are successful at conning almost everyone. This will inoculate them against con men both secular and religious. They will be surprised to learn how organised religion uses the same techniques as traditional con men.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Con vs Violence
Intelligent criminals prefer to con their victims rather than bludgeon them. The church uses cons to extract money, to persuade people to hand over their power and to cover up sex crimes against children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Con without Verification
Christian con men chose to honour their vacuous promises and empty threats in a way that nobody could ever check up on them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Conceit Gland
Christianity causes the conceit gland to swell to twenty times normal size. It presses on the pleasure centres in the brain stimulating them creating an addiction similar to cocaine. This explains why Christians are so bloody obnoxious and so irrational.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conceited Religious Half-Wits
Religions are galling because silly ninnies imagine they are vastly superior to me because they believe idiotic dogma. It is annoying having half-wits look down their nose at me.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Among the most contemptible Christians are those like Pastor David Webster of Prince Albert Saskatchewan. He survived a plane crash and leapt to the conclusion the god Jehovah had rescued him and deliberately smote everyone else who died in plane crashes. He is so conceited that he decided that not only did the creator of the universe take time out of his busy schedule alter the natural unfolding of the universe for his benefit and that god Jehovah decided that he was the only person worth saving.
It would seem to me, that if Jehovah truly favoured Mr. Webster he would have spared him the trauma entirely. Surviving an air crash is a daily event. So is dying in an air crash. Neither is in the least miraculous, though it might feel that way to someone enjoying a narrow escape. Who dies has to do with the physics of the crash, not the preposterously high esteem Christians survivors hold themselves.
Mr. Webster so inflated his ego by this event, that he fancied himself favoured like some prophet of old and presumed the god Jehovah had personally called him to start a ministry and that Jehovah had delivered him a wife who believed his crap too.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Pope Francis bans condoms on the grounds they block the creation on new Catholic contributors. However, they also stop AIDS which kills the unborn, children, mothers and fathers. Even if Pope Francis has no interest but crassly engorging his coffers, he should promote condoms.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Confession is a highly immoral sacrament. The sinner confesses to a crime such as child molesting. The priest is bound to secrecy no matter how much damage the sinner is doing. The priest assigns a token secret penance, typically saying three Hail Marys for molesting. The sinner makes a donation. The priest does some magic and presto, supposedly it is as if the sin never happened. The sinner is washed clean, eager to sin again. But of course the effects of the sin are unchanged. Confession does nothing to make amends to the victim or to discourage the sinner from repeating.
This just shows you what a con the church was all along. They fool the congregation into believing they can magically undo sins in return for cash. It is just a trick to pull in the rubes. It is a doubly wicked con because they not only rip off the congregation promising and not delivering, they lead them into moral degradation. Finally, the priests learn secrets on everyone that they can hold over them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) The Dark Box: A Secret History of Confession
There are many reasons why Catholic confession should be discontinued. Some of them have to do with child molesting:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) The Dark Box: A Secret History of Confession
- Priests are left alone and unsupervised with seven year old children where they cannot be disturbed.
- Priests intimidate children by demanding they divulge sins.
- When priests give each other confessions, they became honour bound not to report the child molesting confessed. The entire priesthood becomes complicit in the coverup.
- The typical penance for child molesting is saying three Hail Marys. All priests come to see child molesting as an ordinary and minor sin.
- Any sexual details divulged can stimulate a new sexually-starved priest to join in.
Conflicts Between Scientists and Christians
In computer programming, things get most interesting and fun just after you discover you have made a mistake and you get to use your wits to track down the bug. The odds of getting a Nobel prize in physics are greatly improved if your experiment shows the exact opposite of what you expected. Scientists thus have not nearly the fear or embarrassment at being found wrong that Christians do. If you tell a Christian his argument is unconvincing because it contains a logical fallacy, he feels insulted, even wounded. If you tell a scientist the same thing, it is more like pointing out a calculator error, no big sweat. He is happy for the correction. The famous computer scientist Dr. Donald Knuth offered an escalating monetary reward for any time anyone ever found an error in his programming. He wanted to find his errors and correct them.
A Christian has essentially placed a bet on which religious framework is true. If he is wrong, he will roast for eternity. If anyone suggests that he bet on the wrong horse, he panics. He takes this accusation of incompetence very personally because this error is so grave, that it deserves eternal torment. The error says something very important about him — what the true god thinks of him, the ultimate report card.
If you reject an argument a scientist makes, the game goes like this. You state why you think his assertion is false. He gives additional reasons why the assertion is true, and he explains the flaw in your reasoning. You go back and forth pointing out the flaws in each other’s logic. If the evidence is overwhelming either way, one of you is obligated change his mind. If the evidence is not overwhelming, you talk about what sort of experiment or evidence-gathering could settle the matter. It is cheating to refuse to concede when the evidence overwhelmingly goes against you. It is cheating to counterfeit, doctor, lie about or use lawyerly tricks to mislead about evidence. Failure to observe these rules can result in the other party exploding in rage.
If you reject an argument a Christian makes, from their point of view, you are disrespecting them. If you held them in sufficiently high esteem you would trust what they told you, just on their say so. You are being impertinent. You are accusing them of lying. Christian arguments are basically assertions that show that something is at least remotely plausible. The beauty of an idea is much more important than how well it conforms with observations of the physical world. It is a Platonic way of thinking.
Further, there is no need to check accuracy if the feeling of truth is sufficiently intense (to know it in your heart). Your beliefs are things you choose, like your diet. You don’t change your beliefs just because somebody advocates something different, no matter how glib they were. You don’t pick your beliefs because some so-called expert told you some colour change in a test tube proved they were true; you pick them because they fit you because they are comfortable because they feel right. You certainly do not publicly disown your own beliefs cherished and nourished over a lifetime, maybe even handed down through the generations. That would be irresponsible flouting of tradition and a disrespect for your own integrity. You don’t just change beliefs like a leaf in the wind no matter what the so-called evidence (that you may not even understand). You must have faith in your convictions.
This attitude, the complete lack of interest in what is actually true, only what you wish were true, drives scientists to apoplexy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conformity and the Holocaust
Psychologists now think the driving force behind the Holocaust, was not hated, sadism or fear — merely conformity — the desire to fit it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Confucianism is a much more dignified religion than Christianity. No tall tales, no miracles, no crazy threats, no off-his-rocker deity, no nonsense you have to pretend to believe. It simply explains how to behave well.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Confusing the Imaginary With The Real
When I was six, I liked drawing creatures I imagined lived in other parts of the galaxy. One, that I dubbed the Meadle, had a mantis-like head, giant dragonfly wings, and three legs. My mother forbade me drawing any more three-legged space creatures since they could be easily confused with creatures with giant penes. I thought my mother had a sex-obsessed mind. Christian too make up imaginary beings, angels, devils, gods… Even at six, I was fully aware my creatures were pure speculation. Christians, even as adults, claim theirs are absolute truth, even though they can present no evidence of any kind that they exist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There is an unhealthy dichotomy in world views. The scientific view sometimes overreaches and claims anything it does not yet understand must be fraud or insanity. On the religious side, people pretend to fully understand the most fantastic woo when they have nothing but imaginative conjecture. It would be more mature to presume their are many things we do not understand and have not even conceived, that we have no business on pontificating until we do know what we are doing. Nearly always when the religious present us with unsubstantiated woo, it is nonsense or fraud. However, we must not let that numb us to the possibility of discovering something radically new.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conned With Consent
When a televangelist tells you that if you send him $100 or more he will send you a free gift of a bar of olive oil soap made by a genuine Palestinian in the Holy Land, what is really happening is the is trying co con you into buying a bar of soap for the outrageous price of $100. By definition, if you have to pay for something, it is not a gift. If you bite, you have been had. He will not wire the money to god as vaguely promised. He will spend it on himself and his ego. If you want to do what is sometimes called god’s work, give it to a group with a proven track record of spending money efficiently to help the poor or preserve the earth. Televangelists are parasites who con the well-intentioned, indirectly stealing from the poor.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conning the Aged
At a certain age, it dawns on you the odds of ever having sex with a being remotely close to your fantasies is, for all practical purposes, zero. You are then susceptible to religious con men who promise the desired experience and more, in an after life or a do-over reincarnation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conning Free Labour
The churches are among the most efficient and lucrative cons ever devised by man. One of the features that make such cons so efficient is they also con the workers into working almost for free and expect none of the spoils, unlike a traditional secular con where everyone involved gets a cut.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conquering Fear Is All It Takes
If we are to convert Christians into atheists, we don’t have to convince them their gods are imaginary, but rather that they do not need to fear death. Their fear makes them cling to the nutty and quite undesirable idea of eternal life.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Like all con men, religions get huffy when you expose how they deceive and exploit their marks.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
No matter how much evidence to the contrary they see, marks of confidence schemes, secular or religious, insist they have not been had. They can’t bear the humiliation of admitting they were wrong, even if it costs them still more money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Consider two people applying for conscientious objector status. One is a Christian who belongs to one of the conscientious objector sects. The other is an atheist.
The Christian is essentially saying I suffer from a mental delusion that there is an invisible man hiding under my bed. I am afraid of him. Others have told me, without evidence, that he will torture me if I enlist. Further, members of my church will shun me if I enlist.
The atheist is saying he believes is wrong to kill people, especially children and civilians and he would simply freeze if forced to do so.
Which of the two is more sincerely a conscientious objector? Which is of the two is more likely to get the exemption? The Christian does not even have a reason. He has a voluntary mental illness, that he is promoting as a disability.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In a forum on optimism broadcast on CBC radio Ideas, featuring Giuseppe Iaria, I believe I heard him say that cheetahs were not conscious. Yet they respond to all manner of stimuli. They react alertly. Perhaps he meant that they don’t have an internal experience. They are like computers — doing computations but not actually feeling anything. By what possible means could he know that? That assertion used to be stated in explicit religious terms as cheetahs have no souls. I think he is just repeating the old anthropocentric Christian assumptions that god loves us best, therefore we must be fundamentally better than other creatures.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Man has been trying to make sense of consciousness for thousands of years. The Christians came up with the idea of a homunculus in the sperm and in the brain and the soul which exists independent of the body. That is probably the closest model of what the average man has of consciousness.
I think the way to attack the problem is this: We need to subjectively assign a number 1 to 10 for how conscious we think we are. We then would measure the brain with NMR (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance) and other scanning techniques to see if there is anything physical happening that correlates. Then we can look for those patterns in fish and turtles to determine how conscious they are.
Pain and suffering are the practical aspects of consciousness. You treat a conscious chicken compassionately, but there is no need to treat an unconscious mechanical chicken that way because it cannot feel pain.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Consequences of Dismissing Science
Most Americans believe religion over science. This is bad news for Americans. This belief will erode their military and financial power. The biblical level of science is capable of generating only the standard of living enjoyed 3000 years ago. Of course, the rest of the world is relieved. The Americans have abused their rôle as #1 superpower. It was unexpected of them to abdicate without apparent pressure from the outside. Like the British, it will take them quite a while to acknowledge their loss of status.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Consequences of Prayer Working
If prayer were effective, every soldier on earth would be tortured to death.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If you want a religion, try Buddhism. It makes way more sense that Christianity. You still get to pretend you will not die and you don’t have to be an asshole.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When people concoct a religious worldview, or other complex lie, they can never fill in sufficient detail to explain everything or to ensure everything remains consistent. In contrast, reality has no such problem.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Consoling with Lies
Christians tell me they believe because it is consoling. However, Christianity consoles with lies. God will not rescue you. Trusting in supernatural aid will just get you in trouble. The truth will always be better for you in the long run than even the most beautiful lies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Constantine The Idiot Christian
Emperor Constantine was a Christian and an idiot because he actually believed the false promises of Christianity. To defend Constantinople, he held up Christian relics, believing they had magic power to frighten off enemies. These little bits of bone and wood, of course, had no effect whatsoever and the city fell.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Constantine Lie
Legend has it that Emperor Constantine had a vision of a cross in the sky and a dream of Jesus. He ordered his troops to paint crosses on their shields and they beat the much larger army of Maxentius. Then Constantine built a giant triumphal arch right next to the Colosseum in Rome. The monument depicts the battle in bas relief with not a cross to be seen. This legend is yet another Christian lie.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Constitution Says All Religions Must Be Treated Equally
Christians who tell Muslims they should keep their mosques away from ground zero are saying that Muslims are inferior, wicked, guilty, unclean… — in some way second class. It boils down to Christians are OK; Muslims are not. The constitution is clear. Religions must be treated equally. It is the only way to keep the peace.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is odd that Americans make reference almost daily to their second amendment rights. Yet for some reason, they completely ignore their constitutional first amendment rights. This is because Americans want to violate the first amendment rights of others and don’t want others to violate their second amendment rights. In both cases, Americans are trying to enforce conformity, for the sake of conformity, namely gun ownership and Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
We have three sorts of constraint on behaviour:
- Crimes for serious tortes.
- Manners for consideration.
- Sin to enforce religious superstitions.
Sin a game played by members of a given sect. It is irrelevant to everyone else. They like to pretend that cutting your lawn on Sunday is terribly wicked, worthy of death. Non-believers would say cutting your lawn before noon is inconsiderate because of the noise.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Constraints on the Universe
The universe does not care if you like the way it works. The math describing how it works may well be elegant, but there is no reason it has to be. It well may be comprehensible by physicists, but there is no necessity for it to be.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I would feel some contempt for an old woman, standing on a stool, screaming her lungs out at a non-existent mouse, but I feel a great deal more contempt for a Christian cowering in terror at a non-existent, sadistic and all-benevolent god.
What makes it worse, these old bats deflect their rudimentary charitable urges to con men faith healers and televangelists harbouring dreams of unearned riches. They lobby to ensure bullies experience no interference beating up young presumed GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual or Transgendered). They do their best to make the lives of unwed mothers as miserable as possible. And they feel so profoundly virtuous for spreading misery.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Contempt for Worshipers of Evil
The old testament describes the creator of the universe as unspeakably evil. I have nothing but contempt for anyone who worships such an evil god. Cowardice is the only conceivable motive. It partly explains why Jehovah’s followers are so badly behaved themselves.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One reason I find Christians contemptible is they say I don’t care about the truth. I want to believe the bible. I have a right to believe whatever I please. They are like little children who believe if they wish hard enough they can fly. They care only about what they wish were so, not what is actually so. They are a cult of deliberate self-deception and lying to others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Continual Fear of Death
As far as we know, humans are the only animals aware that they will inevitably die. Humans react to this realisation with a similar sense of panic that an animal feels just before it is killed. To deal with the continual stress, humans put up a valiant defence — fantasies of eternal life after death and gods to manage the transition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Family values have nothing to do with what you do. They are about stopping other people from doing things your church disapproves of. So when a Republican beats his wife, or forces his wife to have an illegal abortion, or blows a policemen in a toilet stall, there is no violation of family values from his point of view.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Converging on the Truth
If people value truth, they will eventually converge and agree. If people worship stuff they just make up, then they will be at each others’ throats.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conversations with God
If you were in a bus, and a man assured you he was chatting with god, would you want to sit closer or further away? Why then do you want to cosy up to similar schizophrenics, reputed to have killed thousands in ancient times, and take moral instruction from them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Most religionists cause no trouble to others. They just hurt themselves by harbouring delusions. The troublesome ones are the fundamentalists. They believe they have the right to control and bully others, forcing their crazy beliefs on others. This means two things:
- We need focus on converting only the fundamentalists.
- We don’t have to convert them to atheists, just to mild religionists.
We atheists think mainly about arguments to debunk the notion of god. We need something less drastic, that merely debunks fundamentalism.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Conviction ⇏ Truth
It is just as easy to feel certain about something that is not true as something that is true. Your conviction is not evidence for its truth. Further, there is the problem that conviction is easy to feign. It is the persuasive tool of con artists. Anyone who attempts to use it in place of evidence is suspect.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a Christian wants to convince me of his beliefs, it is not enough that he convince me has beliefs are possible. It is not enough to convince me they are plausible. Like a scientist, he must convince me his beliefs are nearly certainly true. To do that, he must have some solid reasons why his beliefs are true and why competing beliefs are not true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Different people find different arguments convincing. For example, atheists like evidence and plausibility, whereas Republicans are susceptible to appeals to the herd instinct and Christians as susceptible to appeals to authority and are convinced something is true mainly if that is what they would most wish to be so.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
This may explain why the Christian conception of heaven is so kitsch. Christians prefer it that way.
Convincing the Stupid
The big problem with religion is it convinces stupid people they are absolutely right about something that is demonstrably false.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When Kenneth Copeland told his flock not to get vaccinated for measles, he hurt not only his own flock, but spread measles to the entire community. I think Copeland should be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a licence. And those harmed should sue him for every penny he has conned.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Desecrating a corpse is petty vandalism, like throwing rocks at a rusting car in a junkyard, or shooting tin cans discarded at a dump. A corpse is already in the process of putrefaction. Yet Christians are so superstitious, they consider desecration even more offensive than murder.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I think it highly improper of Christians to demand that rescue workers risk their lives to retrieve corpses from remote, dangerous places then send the bill to the taxpayer. It is a violation of church and state to force the general taxpayer to pay for a Christian religious burial rite. If Christians are worried that some believers will not be able to pay to retrieve corpses, they should set up a fund to cover the indigent. To me all this ritual magic with bodies is medieval superstition, akin to a childhood fascination with bodily secretions, especially when there are massive searches to find badly decomposed, buried bodies that are dug up and then reburied elsewhere, not even viewed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The most peculiar thing about Americans is that they show far more respect and concern for corpses than living people.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Correlation of Christianity and Stupidity
Christians usually have sub-normal IQ (Intelligence Quotient) I am not sure if subnormal people are attracted to Christianity to attain a sense of importance or if Christianity destroys the intellect.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When the milk went sour, my distant ancestors in Scotland had no idea that bacteria caused it, so with complete conviction, they blamed fairies and witchcraft. That is no more ignorant than the way today’s Christians insist on using the god Jehovah as a sort of cosmic caulk to fill in any gap in our current knowledge.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cosmic Santa Claus
Why does this nutty belief in some wish-granting Cosmic Santa Claus (god, Jesus, saints, spirits, dead people…) that you can petition telepathically (prayer) have its hooks in so deeply.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Given the vast size of the universe, lusting for cosmic significance is a vain goal. Politicians go for big-frog-in-a-small pond significance. They fight wars to claim temporary dominance over chunks of the surface of our blue marble — spaceship earth. Their single-minded desire makes them trample others, including their own wives and children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The idea that the creator of the universe would be more fascinated with you and your behaviour than even you are is the ultimate conceit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cosmically Conceited Christians
Christians hang on to the primitive conceit that mankind is the center of the universe, that everything was expressly created purely for their enjoyment. We now know this is utter nonsense, but the Christians still refuse to give up petty, conceited picture of the universe. The Centre of All Things .~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In earlier times, people dealt with Christians trying to impose their brand of religion by killing them. Today we are roughly equally effective by pointing out the flaws in what they are selling.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There is a country song where the singer crows that she is a good Christian woman complaining she is better than everyone else and should be treated better than ordinary people. This exaggerated opinion of themselves is one of the reasons I find Christians so nauseating.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There is no difference between a bat shit crazy person and someone who joined a religion with only one adherent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cowardice and the Afterlife
Humans are such cowards that they willingly allow themselves to be conned by those claiming death is not real and claiming to know the precise details of how the afterlife works.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cowardice Over Mortality
Humans are such cowards when it comes to facing their own mortality that they willingly allow themselves to be conned by those claiming death is not real and claiming to know the precise details of how an afterlife works.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I have such contempt for Christians. They are such cowards when it comes to death. They make up preposterous stories to reassure themselves. They get together once a week to do nothing but repeat these stories frantically chattering and chanting trying to convince each other that they are actually true. When will they grow up? They are behaving like three year olds.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Even if you do believe in the ogre Jehovah, how dare you worship a god who stands by when infants are raped.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are utterly disgusting. They are afraid of a bronze age bogeyman. They cower in fear at an imaginary monster, like 3 year olds afraid of dragons under the bed. They know perfectly well it does not exist, but they are too afraid to take the chance. So they keep paying extortion money to con men who tell them it is real. Pathetic!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Think how many crank food fads there are. I remember one, Adele Davis, who believed you should your cook meat overnight at barely warm temperatures. One of these obsessive cranks got to the Jews a long time ago to create the silly Kosher rules for them. Everyone should be free to eat crank diets, but not to impose them on others, or inconvenience others for them. They are just traditions. They don’t deserve to be taken nearly so seriously.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Crazies Treated As Sane
If someone went to a psychiatrist and announced that the spirit of a long dead shaman had taken over his body and that an invisible entity that hovered in outer space was planning to torture him for masturbating, how might he be treated? With hospitalisation and antipsychotics? Not if that shaman were named Jesus and the entity Jehovah. He would be sent out into the world as a perfectly sane man.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Crazies Treated As Sane
If someone went to a psychiatrist and announced that they had joined a cult that practised cannibalism and blood-drinking, how might he be treated? If that cult were Christianity, (which believes in a lame miracle that a cracker becomes the literal corpse of Christ, even though it still looks like a cracker), he would be sent out into the world as a perfectly sane man.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Crazies Treated As Sane
If someone went to a psychiatrist and announced that they were hearing voices that told him what to do and threatened to torture him for non-compliance by roasting him alive, how might he be treated? With antipsychotics? Not if that voice called itself Jesus. He would be sent out into the world as a perfectly sane man.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The crazier the church, the more likely it is to claim it has sole claim to truth, and that they have all the answers. The moderate churches don’t make such wild claims. Atheists say We don’t have the answers. You will have to think this through yourself. If these were brands of toothpaste, you would understand why the gullible boobs always buy the fundamentalist brand.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Crazy = Religious
If a visiting psychiatrist from another planet, who had never heard of earth religions, were presented with summaries of various earthling beliefs, he would not be able to tell the lunatics and the adherents of religion apart.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are crazy and dangerous because they have no common sense. They believe utterly horrible things are god’s will. They fight desperately for evil. They believe in an unspeakably cruel god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are just as delusional as most people incarcerated in mental institutions. The differences are:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Christians do not realise they are suffering from delusions.
- Christians don’t receive any treatment.
- Christians are numerous. They organise to resist treatment for their delusions.
- Christians have their full energy and they are free to go about in the world acting on their delusions. Therefore Christians are much more dangerous.
- Christians are not usually stigmatised as delusional. People dealing with them are not properly on their guard. Christians get taken far too seriously.
Crazy Like a Jew
An eruv is a string that encircles a home or town. Jews believe it enables them to carry objects out of doors on the sabbath that would otherwise be forbidden by Torah. Not only Christians are insane. Why would the creator of the universe care if you carried your keys? What possible harm does it do to anyone? Why would a string be sufficient to persuade the creator of the universe to overlook this transgression? What possible difference could it make? Eruv-believing Jews are as nutty as mental institution inmates snapping their fingers to keep the tigers at bay.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians and other sellers of ideas that are not true resort to two desperate techniques:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- They try to convince you there is some slim chance that what they claim is true, then if you admit that, claim that they have just proved it must be true, absolutely and for sure.
- Since they don’t have any logical arguments, they resort to ones that are bat-shit incoherent. They try irrational arguments.
Creating a Child
Creating yet another child, where there are still abandoned children without parents, especially when that child is created through artificial means to stimulate fertility such as in-vitro fertilisation is cruel, hard-hearted, vain, selfish and anti-environment.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The desire to create gods is innate. A child will pretend his teddy bear or pet goldfish has super powers to protect him from bogeymen. Jesus is an invisible friend for adults.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Science has already created life. Using off the shelf chemicals geneticists1 constructed the DNA for a bacterium and planted it in a bacterial shell. It took off living and reproducing — a new species of bacterium. In principle we could do the same thing with any other life form. This is not quite the same as creating life completely from scratch, but it does give us the god-like ability to create new species of plants and animals. We are already tinkering with the DNA of the next generation of children in a small way to correct defects.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Creating Life is not Magic
Even though humans have created new forms of life with a DNA sequencer, Christians continue to insist only Jehovah can do that.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If you are for any reason having trouble determining right from wrong, here are some rules of thumb:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- The Golden Rule: Just think about what it would be like if someone else did to you what you are doing to them.
- The Kant rule: Think about what the world be like if everyone in the world behaved as you did.
- The Death Bed: On my deathbed would I be proud of having done this? Would I want everyone to know about it?
- Inaction: Most of morality is about failing to act when you should. Does this need doing? If I don’t do it, will it very likely get done, anyway? What is my reasonable share of the work?
Every North American Indian tribe has its own creation myth. But they have a feature in common with Christian myth, that the creator created everything purely for the enjoyment and convenience of humans. What a conceited notion!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Every culture on earth has its own creation myth. What are the odds the only accurate one would come from a desert tribe living in the bronze age?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Creation science was created from the imagination back in the bronze age and was never updated no matter what we learned. Scientific knowledge doubles every two years, based on experiments to discover what is really true. Creation science won’t let you do anything, not even make a round wheel. Science makes our whole technological world possible. You would likely not even be alive without it. I find it baffling that anyone would prefer the completely erroneous, completely useless, creation science.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine a group of creative anachronisms who wanted to relive the times of 1000 BC. They went into it whole heartedly. They used 1000 BC medicine, sanitation, food, clothing, customs, religion, lack of electricity, lack of fuels, no metals but bronze, child beating, wife beating, slave keeping, law, religion… total immersion. Then they decided weekends were not enough, they wanted to do this full time and force everyone to join in. These loons, who have not yet even tried the experiment themselves, are called religious fundamentalists.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Members of the Society For Creative Anachronism make believe it is 1000 AD. Christians make believe it is 1000 BC.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Creator of Lions
Watch a video like Wild Lion Ganglands about lion behaviour. From a human morality point of view they are utterly degenerate. It is hard not to hate them they are so alien, so pointlessly cruel. But Christians assure us this behaviour is the handiwork of a loving god. No it is not. If a god created them, the god is a twisted sadistic fuck.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Creator of the Universe
Claiming the universe has a creator means just that. It does not have to be an invisible man with a beard, named Jehovah, who likes boinking married virgins. It need not be conscious. It could be a computer, a fundamental principle of physics, a function of quantum mechanics, Ganesh the elephant… An argument for a creator is not an argument for Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If there were a god who wanted to be believed, he would have to show evidence to everyone, not just a few selected people who could well have lied or been mistaken. A demonstration for each generation should be adequate or a single impossible object for all time. But nothing. Apparently god does not care if anyone but some illiterate desert dwellers believed him.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Credibility of Psychics
Given that every famous psychic who claims to communicate with the dead has been exposed as a fraud, it is odd the lesser known psychics have any presumed credibility. Believers are like children who insist that magicians really do saw women in half, no matter how many times they see how the trick is done.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What would you call an institution that told lies to frighten or trick people into giving it massive sums of money providing nothing of value in return? What would you call an institution that pretended to offer care for children, but actually physically abused, terrified, molested and raped them? I’d call it criminal. You’d call it the holy church.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
Christians assert that only they are truly moral. Yet when you look at the statistics, it is the very opposite.
- Disproportionately more Christians are in jail.
- Christians commit disproportionately more murders. Louisiana, the most religious state, has double the murder rate. Presumably, part of the problem is Christians don’t take murder seriously, since they believe nobody actually dies.
- Christians have disproportionately more divorces.
- Christians have disproportionately more teen pregnancies and more repeat teen pregnancies.
- Christians have disproportionately more abortions.
- Christians have disproportionately more sexual offences involving children.
This represents a complete failure of Christian morality.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)source
Christianity is a criminal conspiracy. Once you understand that, most of their bizarre behaviour begins to make sense.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A Criminal Enterprise
It all makes sense when you realise the Catholic Church is a criminal enterprise, just like any other cult.
- It extorts money from people with threats and false promises.
- It uses threats and false promises to persuade parents to look the other way when priests abuse, molest and rape their children.
It such an old con game and such a slick one, with such excellent public relations, that people forget what its primary activities are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
Criminally Delusional Christians
The average Christian is just as delusional as anyone incarcerated in an institution for the criminally insane.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Criminally Insane Christians
Imagine that someone went to a psychiatrist and announced that they had joined a cult that followed the religious beliefs of an obscure primitive iron age desert tribe. The cult’s holy book required members to murder those who made even minor violations of the social or dress code, even those outside the cult, attacking in groups to bash the victim to death with rocks and possibly to bury him or her alive in stones or by burning the transgressor alive. How might he be treated? With a stint in an institution for the criminally insane? If that cult were the Christians, he would be sent out into the world as a perfectly sane man.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Criminally Insane Christians
Imagine there were a pill that instantly cut your IQ in half when you took it. It allowed your pusher to control you, by making you susceptible to his every suggestion. It also made you mindlessly cruel by eliminating all doubt about your what you were told. That is what religion is.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Criteria For Heaven
Surely Christians can’t be serious that entry to heaven is based on which branch of which religion you subscribed to. Given that nearly everyone takes up the religion of one’s parents and given that religions work hard to prevent their adherents from learning about any other, that choice means almost nothing about the person. Surely such a winnowing would have to be based on something far more substantial.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Egyptians had it right when they worshipped crocodiles. The crocodile is one of the few large creatures with a chance of surviving man’s environmental destruction if we don’t hunt them to extinction first.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In Madagascar the people worship crocodiles. The feed them great chunks of meat hoping the crocodiles will bring a big harvest. These people are not nearly as crazy as Christians. Christians worship a god they cannot see or detect in any way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What would you think of a corporation that:
- persuaded its customers to invest 10% of their income, but never gave them anything in return.
- traumatised children, abusing them physically, sexually and mentally.
- encouraged lynchings, beatings, murders and burning alive of those who refused to act as agents for the corporation.
If you would not approve of such a corporation, why would you excuse the same behaviours in the world’s churches?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- If you catch a guy telling you BS stories to talk you into giving him money…
- If you catch a guy raping a child…
- If you catch a guy blatantly lying to you…
Can you decide he is a crook and decide not to trust him, or are you obligated to study his life to find every good thing he did to see if it compensates? People tend to treat professional Christians the second way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Whomever designed English noticed that Christians, whose symbol is the cross, are often cross scolds.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One way to decide what is true, is to make a presumption, then check if it jibes with the observed facts. Does the presumption fit with the facts? Are there any inconvenient facts that conflict? Does the presumption neatly explain or predict the facts? Check for yourself what happens if you presume Christianity is nothing but con whose purpose is to extract money from the gullible and to hand over their kids for sexual and physical abuse. This could be true both if there is or is not a god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Romans used crucifixion as slow torture. It usually took the victims 3 or 4 days to die. Oddly, Jesus expired within a day. The gospels give no hint as to why he was so fragile. However, it does suggest the possibility that Jesus did not fully die.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Crucifixion as Entertainment
In ancient times, people thought no more of going to a crucifixion for entertainment than modern day movie goers would of watching Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Why are Christians so obsessed with the crucifixion? That is their favourite art subject. That is the symbol of the entire religion. You would think the resurrection would be more important. The Christian con artists are milking your empathy to create guilt and obligation. That can then easily be used to convince you hand over money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If there were a loving god, he would never take your daughter from you with cancer.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Think how many millions of times have Christians prayed to their god to save them. Can you think of even once when he did? Think of all the people burned alive, consumed by disease, raped and murdered. If this god exists, he has a heart of stone.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What god would design a world where baby sea turtles, as soon as they are hatched must run a gauntlet of shrieking gulls and amassed ghost crabs where most are torn to pieces? If there were such a god, it would deserve contempt and pity, not worship.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What sort of compassionate intelligent designer of the universe would have set hordes of mosquitos to torment the caribou, blood sucking leaches to invade the rectums of hippopotamuses, spiders to paralyse and slowly dine on their living victims, or pancreatic cancer to torture old ladies?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Both Allah and Jehovah are reputed to be infinitely kind and merciful. But that cannot be true. According to the religious traditions, the creator of universe created everything including the bubonic plague, Ebola, pancreas cancer, Guinea worms, mosquitoes and black flies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What a vicious lie to tell a child that her mother abandoned her to go on a permanent luxury vacation in heaven.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Anyone who teaches children that there is an invisible bogeyman under the bed is as either a mentally deficient ninny or a sadistic bastard. This includes most Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Jesus is like a cruel Santa. He bullies people into begging for presents then never delivers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Cruelest Con
Convincing believers that being horny is a mortal sin was the cruelest and cleverest trick the church has yet invented for dragging their marks about like pigs with nose rings. Extreme guilt make the imaginary punishment seem all the more terrible, real, deserved and probable. In that blubbering state believers are putty in the hands of the church ready to hand over any a lifetime of protection money to forestall the threatened torture. I find it odd that only a tiny minority of the general population seem to notice that churches are blatantly criminal enterprises — the world’s oldest con. It natural for criminals to deny their wrongdoing with all manner of lies, affect offended innocence and to falsely attack their prosecutors.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cruelty of I’ll Pray For You
I’ll pray for you is a socially acceptable way of saying no when someone asks for help.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Pope Urban II sent Christians off to kill everyone, Jew, Muslim and Christian living in Jerusalem in the Crusades. He was a bit like modern Zionists, imagining he had holy title to Jerusalem, even though Christians in the time of Jesus were a tiny minority, and Muslims had occupied it for hundreds of years.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cult Leaders Have Confidence
It is odd how people with truly crazy ideas like Savaranola, Hitler or Ayn Rand can collect cult followers around them. It appears the main thing they need is absolute confidence in the correctness and completeness of their simplified view of the world.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is quite frightening when someone joints a cult, how their personality changes, how they become illogical, how they give up their friends, how they give a large amount of money to the cult. It is just as distressing when someone joins a Christian cult. It is so common, it easy to miss just how damaging to sanity it is. It is like they have had a lobotomy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cults to Avoid
You would probably want everyone to steer well clear of a cult that practised sexual abuse of children, ritual cannibalism and whose main rite consisted of consisted of contemplating torture. Yet you accept it as perfectly natural when it comes wrapped as a respected religion — the Catholic Church.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity can be cured. Donate today!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is utterly daft, but that fact escapes most people because it is so pervasive and familiar.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is utterly daft. The Aztecs used to cut out a sacrificial victim’s heart to slate the lusts of the deity. The ancient Hawaiians would throw a virgin into a volcano. Christians put on a elaborately embroidered dress. They get some boy attendants to dress in frocks. They flounce about waving incense. They think this will propitiate Jehovah. Seriously! Why because the performance made him laugh?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is utterly daft. You would think it would be folly to elect politicians suffering from delusions, but because the Christians have such power, only people without delusions are excluded from office.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Damn You Christians
Damn you all to hell, you meddling Christians! You twits who fear an invisible man in the closet spying on you when you masturbate! How dare arrogant, delusional idiots like you presume to dictate to me how I must handle my end-of-life decisions!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Damned Meddling Christians
Christians are so smug and arrogant that I want to smack them senseless with a shovel. How dare they interfere with the end-of-life decisions some poor woman like Gloria Taylor dying of ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis) on a feeding tube, whose hands cannot move, who was not even be able to speak to curse her tormentors. How dare they claim to know more about her situation than she did. How dare they try to impose their barbarous iron age religion superstitions on her.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Danger of Science
Religion retards the advancement of knowledge by throwing up superstitions to confuse. Science advances knowledge. The problem with science is it often gives us too much knowledge too quickly before we are wise enough to use it. For example, we used the knowledge of engines to pollute the planet and bring on global warming. We used knowledge of logging to destroy the world’s forests. Einstein gave us the atomic bomb and we built a hair-trigger system to wipe out life on earth. Despite the many marvels, science is also giving us the tools to drive ourselves extinct.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I have the same get-me-out-of-here feeling when I encounter a person who tells me that Jesus is real that I would on encountering one who assured me that Dr. Who was real. If this person is that deluded, what other dangerous notions do they harbour?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dark Age Christianity
In the dark ages, Christianity has no competition. God intervened no more than he does today, but people roasted others alive in god’s name far more frequently.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Everyone has seen the Darwin awards where people do really stupid things and kill themselves. Every Christian deserves one too. They trust preachers who know nothing at all about climate change and ignore the scientists who do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Delivering a Christian from his delusions is a bit like removing a tooth. You have to push it to one side as far it is will go, then push a tiny bit further, then pull it back to the other side. The trick is to get the tooth moving a little, in any direction.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deadbeat God = No God
How could you possibly tell the difference between a non-existent god and a god that did not do anything, did not answer prayer, did not intervene to override physical laws, did not appear physically…?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When disaster strikes, you would think religious people would notice their benevolent gods either abandoned them or did not exist. In either case you would expect them to abandoned their gods. But they do the exact opposite. It is as though they all suffer from Stockholm syndrome.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dealing with Death
If you are someone who has trouble with death, who finds the Christian siren song of endless harp playing appealing I suggest you set up a tropical fish tank. Many species of fish live at best only a couple of years. You will get used to your fish dying. You will get used to the idea we have only a limited lifespan. It will seem only natural the same will happen to you with no great ceremony. You will see that death is ordinary and not at all mysterious.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dealing With Ghosts
If someone believed the ghost of their dead mother was watching and criticising their every act, you’d think they would seek professional help excising the painful belief, even if they thought it were probably true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dealing with Liars
My rule of thumb is to stop believing anything someone says, once I have caught them in even one lie, (not counting white lies told to spare feelings or for politeness). Ever after, they are going to have to present evidence. I will hereafter not take what they say on face value. This rule usually makes me discount any Christian within the first 15 minutes of the encounter.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dealing With A Priest Pedophile
Imagine you were working in the Catholic church and you discovered a priest forcing or threatening children into sexual acts. What would you do? Here are some the most likely things I would expect of you:
- Tell the police.
- Tell the child’s parents.
- Ensure that the priest is never left alone with kids.
- Talk to the kids and teach them how to defend themselves.
- Get to the bottom of what has been going on and collect evidence.
- If the priest were a personal friend, you conceivably might tell the priest if he does not cut this out right this minute you will go to the police.
Things I would not expect you to do:
- Tell absolutely no one.
- Make no effort of any kind to convince the priest to stop.
- Help the priest cover up his crimes.
- Bully the kids into silence.
- Conspire with others in the church to find the priest fresh pastures where he will have a fresh start where no one is aware of his proclivities.
However, how do staff at the Catholic church behave? Aid and abet the coverup. Why? I suggest it is because most of the staff are pedophiles or peeping-pedophiles too. What they did makes no sense from the point of view avoiding scandal. One rogue priest the church could easily survive, but not of the whole church aiding and abetting his crimes. They are each covering for each other. How else do you explain their behaviour? Even after the scandal breaks they keep making excuses for the culprit. That suggests the culprit has something on all of them too.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians cling to the notion that faith in Jesus or expensive coffins will protect them from death. They die just like everyone else. They rot just like everyone else.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) What happens after you die
The thing that bothers me most about death is that my todo list will remain undone. On the other hand, in the months preceding my death, likely I will not make any progress on it, so extra time would not help.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Death After Life
Christians believe in life after death. Atheists believe in death after life and life before death. Christians have no evidence; atheists do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Death Bed Conversion
Christians claim that nearly all atheists have a death bed conversion to Christianity. This makes no sense. Why would absolute twaddle suddenly make sense on one’s deathbed? And why Christianity? Why not Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism, Buddhism? They all offer after-death goodies considerably more pleasant than Christianity promises.
This belief suggests that fear of Jehovah and his hell is by far the biggest selling point of Christianity. Christians are cowards motivated mostly by fear of an imaginary deity. What childish twits to be taken in by such a transparent con! They are as naïve as the cannibals worshiping a volcano god in a black and white B movie.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Death Before Life
Christians needlessly fret about how horrible it will be to cease existence. They forget they have already done it for billions of years without trauma prior to their births.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Is Death Certain?
I am an atheist and I am not certain that I will die and I think it unlikely that I will live indefinitely either. I would prefer the certainty of finite life, that most atheists share. The reason for my uncertainty is quite different from any I have ever heard.
Consider Wheeler’s many worlds hypothesis. Quantum uncertainty allows the universe to split in all possible (to be defined by quantum experts) directions from every point in space time.
You could classify branches by how quickly they lead to my almost certain demise. Though the probability densities get absurdly thin, even after centuries, there are likely some chains that would keep me alive. I am dead in nearly all universes, but in a few branches I live on, day after day.
I pity the mes in the ones where I linger indefinitely, though it might fun for the mes who get a rejuvenated body and mind, with some erasure of memories that haunt me like a sore tooth my tongue cannot stop probing.
The inspiration for strange ideas like this come from a class in theoretical probability (including Lebesgue measure) I took in fourth year university back in the 60s. It is also inspired by people often encountering me alive and being absolutely astounded. They are positive I had died. I speculated some sort of cross-pollination of many worlds, though obviously there are more mundane explanations. Further, I contracted HIV back in 1985. Every year the doctors would say I had at most one more year. I am still here, yet all my friends, who nearly all became HIV+, are dead. This is mildly spooky and is consistent my paranoid hypothesis. Again, there is no lack of mundane explanations.
Quantum Mechanics are so flipping weird, I don’t feel all that certain about anything a universe than contains them. The one thing I am sure of is that I am baffled. Without fully understanding quantum mechanics, I don’t think I can close the matter.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Death Of A Child
How could anyone who has been present at the death of child possibly believe in a benign loving deity?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Death is not Scary
Fear of death is irrational similar to fear of being trapped in a coffin underground. Your consciousness will not experience either, even if your body does.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religion is a collection of lies for denying the unpleasant end-of-life. If people were braver, less inclined to fanciful imaginings or had some faith that artificial intelligence could postpone death indefinitely, there would be no more need for such lies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If ever you get a telephoned death threat, consider. Why would someone about to murder you tip you off so you can prepare to defend yourself? Why would he leave his phone number in the phone company records traceable to a threatening call? The same applies to email death threats. I speak from experience. I have received about 3200 telephone death threats, nearly all from Christians and I am still here.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Death — the Black Hole
Death is like a black hole. The closer you get, the faster it pulls, the faster you move into it. Once you fall in, nobody can see what happened to you. Even if you managed to survive, there is no way you will ever manage to tell about it. Though no one can observe your demise, the math makes it certain.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Death? So What?
Death is no big deal. Billions of people have done it, along with untold trillions of animals and plants. It is only your own death that is a big deal.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In debate, usually the atheists challenge Christians by giving their reasons why they think there are no gods, in particular Jehovah. Then Christians threaten them with torture for disagreeing with them. Then they make baseless ad hominem attacks. Why do Christian, off the bat, resort to cheating? Don’t they have any evidence to support their view? How can they look in the mirror and claim to be supporting absolute truth, but only have lies and cheating to do it?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Debate, the Saving Grace
Other than Zionists, Jews are so much more reasonable than Christians. The Old Testament is much crazier than the new, so how could this be? Christians are taught blind belief and obedience. Jews are taught to debate and think.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Debating Con Men
When you debate a con man, never forget the con man has no interest in discovering the truth. His job is to conceal it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Debating is Futile
Watch a debate between an atheist and a Christian. No matter what either says, the atheists in the audience applaud when the atheist makes a point and the Christians in the audience applaud when the Christian makes a point. There is no change in the proportion of atheists and Christians over the course of the debate. The choice appears to be a matter of team loyalty rather than reasons. It almost seem that people do not have reasons for their choice. It is more like choosing their favourite flavour of ice cream, strawberry or chocolate. It is just a preference. They have no idea why they think the way they do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Debating Mental Patients
When you debate fundamentalists it feels like you are debating mental patients. You are. These are people with borderline OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) and borderline schizophrenia, all untreated. You would not expect to cure OCD or schizophrenia using only logic.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Debating With Christians
Debating with Christians is like debating with small children. The difference is children are rarely under the delusion they know everything already.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
Debating with Criminals
It is difficult for Christians and atheists to debate civilly because each considers the other to be a brazen criminal.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Wizard of Oz was one of the best books ever written on the bogosity of Christianity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians don’t understand. If somebody came up with a legitimate criticism of evolution, scientists would be ecstatic with excitement. The story would be everywhere. Discovering something new is what scientists live for. Christians have quite a different approach to information that challenges their beliefs. They use censorship, scorn and threats to suppress the information.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Deceased, Funeral Director
When someone dies, people fight over what the deceased would have wanted in terms of funeral arrangements. The deceased is the only person whose feelings do not matter. They will not be attending.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I have the same problem with god as with other products sold in late night TV infomercials — he does not perform as advertised, or more accurately, he does absolutely nothing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deciding to Be Straight
To those who claim sexual orientation is a choice, tell me about the day you decided to get turned on more by girls than by boys. Be honest! It just happened. A tsunami of sexual desire swept you away.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deciding if God Exists
For atheists, it is all about the evidence whether there is or is not a god. For Christians, it is all about whether having a god would be a good or a bad thing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The two most important statistics measuring the decline of Christianity are:
- Reduced Sunday school enrollments. This is where people are most vulnerable to having irrationality inculcated.
- Reduced Easter Sunday attendance. This is where the annual shearing of the flock occurs to fund the activities of the church.
Of lesser importance is fewer people claiming to believe in some sort of supernatural deity that did the initial work getting the universe started.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religion and superstition are free to compose their world view without constraints of truth. They can make it as exciting, intuitive, flattering, personal or terrifying as they please. In contrast most of what science has to say pretty mundane. The human mind prefers the drama of religion and societies will drift off into superstition unless constantly pulled back.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Decorating a Lie
No matter how you decorate a lie with musically exquisite alleluias, hosannas and Lord, Lords, it is still a lie.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If the eye were the result of intelligent design, the blind would not have to wait millennia for an appointment with Jesus. They could get them fixed in at most two appointments at the nearest shopping mall Visions outlet.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Defending Against Truth
Not only does Christianity teach falsehood, it teaches how to defend against truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Defending a Con Man
When a friend falls under the spell of a con man, they will vigorously defend the con man, even after their bank account is emptied. Why?
- They don’t want to admit they were stupid enough to be conned.
- They desperately want the goodies the con man has promised. If they pull out, they will definitely not get any goodies. If they hang in there, there is a slim chance they might get some.
- They find the con man charming and feel guilty about condemning him. What if they are wrong?
- Lot’s of other respectable people still believe the con.
Hint: every clergyman, priest and televangelist is a con man. He makes make false promises to induce you to give him money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Defending the Faith
Those fundamentalists who answer doubt of their holy books with violence are tacitly admitting they have no evidence or reason to defend them. They are publicly declaring them fragile. That is surely even more damaging to the reputation of the books than the criticism. They are demonstrating to the world that even adherents do not trust the books.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Defending the False
There are thousands of holy books. Christian pick out one, discard the rest without reading them and claim that one is inerrant, despite the overwhelming evidence almost every line of it is fiction. They get away with this utilising dogged repeated assertion and threats.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Defending Separation of Church and State
One strategy to deal with Christians trying to destroy separation of church and state is to let them set up their theocracy. Within days, the various denominations will be fighting and killing each other just as they did in the early days of the USA.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Atheists and Christians never see eye to eye when debating because they use different definitions for the word true. Atheists mean something that is actually so. Christians mean something that makes them feel good when they believe it. It also means something that makes people behave well when they believe it. Whether it is actually so is secondary. This is why Christians consider it acceptable to lie to defend the truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Define Young Girl
Religious prudes will accuse someone of sexually abusing a very young girl. When you dig into the matter, you discover he had consensual sex with a 19-year old. This sort of exaggeration is a scurrilous lie.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Scientists like to pretend they have solved the problem of consciousness. But all they have really done is to redefine it to something simpler.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Defining A Miracle
For a miracle to occur, something highly unusual must happen. Either unusually few or unusually many cures would be of interest. The catch is the number of spontaneous cures is the same with or without prayer.
What Christians effectively like to do is claim that someone winning the lottery is a miracle. No, that is rare as ticket buyers go. What would be a miracle is if nobody won the lottery for years at a time, or if there were 100,000 first place winners each time, (or more likely fraud).~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition Of American
Americans are species of Christian who believe it is a more serious crime to have sex with an 18 year old than to shoot them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Atheist
atheist: someone who does not buy the stories churches are selling.
anti-theist: someone who thinks that churches, televangelists, faith healers and the like are harmful and works to stop them exploiting people.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If you haven’t noticed, I am an anti-theist, as are most of the famous so-called atheists, such as Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris.
Definition of Atheist
If you have faith, a firm conviction that there exists a supernatural, eternal being who spies on you and punishes you for breaking his rules, you are a theist. If you have such faith, but believe your god does not intervene in the universe, you are a deist. If you have no such faith, then you are an atheist. You don’t have to be 100% sure, just lack conviction in the existence of god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Atheist
The Romans called the Christians atheists because they did not believe in their gods.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Atheist
The word atheism, to a atheist, simply means without a belief in any god. It comes from the Greek a without and theos god. However, to a Christian it has a quite different meaning. An atheist is someone allied with Satan to defeat Jehovah in battle and destroy all Christian values, including sensible ones like avoiding killing and helping the poor. Christians have the odd idea that atheists believe in Jehovah just as strongly as they do. This distorted picture of atheists was created by the church to justify killing atheists. However, in modern day there are two types of atheists, those who like to keep their beliefs to themselves and those who try to talk Christians and Muslims into giving up those beliefs for which they have no evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Belief In God
When someone says they believe in God, they don’t mean they believe some intelligent designer created the universe, but that a particular book sponsored by a particular religion is the final authority on all matters of science and morality.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Believing in God
When a person asks if you believe in god, he means do you believe that his holy book is infallible?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of a Christian
A Christian is a person who lies to defend a religion he knows is false.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of a Christian
A Christian is someone who imagines he is so superior to everyone else that they should submit to him to let him micromanage their lives. He takes his direction from a book that he has never read, that he mostly ignores and that he falsely imagines he knows by heart.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of a Christian
Christian: noun: the sort of person who points out to all assembled that someone present has just had a bowel accident, just in case there was any person who failed to notice the foul odour.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Christian
The words Christian and cretin come from the same root. A Christian is someone who pretends to be brain damaged. He is so convinced of the virtue of faith without evidence, he will lie to others to fake it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Christianity
Christianity: the exaltation of ignorance.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Christmas
Christmas is to Christians as the full moon is to grunions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition Of Death
Death is when the internal dream generator shuts down.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Emotion
Emotion is how the brain keeps track of what is significant. LSD overwhelms the brain, making even a grain of sand pregnant with cosmic significance.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Entertainer
Entertainer: noun. A person who tells lies for a living, such as a storyteller, politician, comedian or clergyman.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Evangelism
Evangelism is a commercial for an invisible product that does not do anything.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith
According to Dr. Peter Boghossian, faith is claiming to know things you do not know. So, if you say Life would be empty without faith what you are actually saying is Life would be empty if I stopped pretending to know things I do not know. Really?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith
Faith is believing without evidence. For the Christian, faith is the highest virtue. For the atheist, it is the ultimate foolishness. For the con man, it is the ultimate opportunity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith
Faith is deciding what to believe depending on much you wish it were so, not by how much you think it is so. It is contempt for truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith
Faith is the deliberate lack of critical thinking. Faith is intentional gullibility. How can people be so bullied as to think this is a Good Thing™?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith
Faith is preferring wishful thinking to thinking.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith
Faith is pretending to believe an authority when you strongly suspect he is lying.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith
Faith is relying on someone who does not know either.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith Healing
Faith healing amounts to saying Go away you nasty disease or I’ll ask my invisible friend to beat the crap out of you. in a way that impresses the heck out of the patient.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Faith in God
When people talk about faith in god, they really mean faith in what some con man told them about god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of For Religious Reasons
When someone says they believe something for religious reasons, you can more accurately translate that as It is not literally true, but I and a number of others, think it would be wonderful if it were true, discounting any non-obvious negative consequences.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Freedom Of Religion
Freedom of religion amounts to freedom to indulge a mental illness/delusions and to inculcate them in children. It is the freedom to lie and to persecute arbitrary scapegoats. It is thus not inherently a good thing. It is a compromise, an uneasy truce, to keep people of different religions from killing each other. If religions dwindled, then freedom of religion would be treated the same way the as the freedom to refuse treatment for mental illness. The right to infect children would be curtailed, and those actively dangerous would not be permitted to refuse treatment.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Freedom of Religion
In the USA, freedom of religion means the right to praise Jesus in any way you please.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Fundamentalist
Fundamentalists: nobody is surer they are right and nobody is more often wrong.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God is the adult version of monsters under the bed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
The god Jehovah is the grownups’ version of monsters under the bed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
The god Jehovah is in the same category as King Kong, Godzilla and the Gorgon Medusa — mythical monsters.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
The god Jehovah is the projection of the Christian desire to deny pleasure to others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
The god Jehovah is the projection of the Christian desire to micromanage the lives of others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
The god Jehovah is the projection of the Christian desire to punish those they cannot control.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God is something that my enemies use an as excuse to behave monstrously.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God is a Star Trek Replicator in the clouds. Just ask for what you want and it appears in seconds. It can also handle large requests like Mercedes Benz’s, or a replaced heart. The only catch is, it is always out of order.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, an ancient con, particularly effective for separating little old ladies and seriously ill people from their life savings.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, an authoritarian voice that only psychotics can hear that commands them to commit crimes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, an imaginary bogeyman and peeping Tom. Parents try to discourage their children from masturbating by telling them god is spying on them 24/7.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, an imaginary friend for simple-minded adults.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, an imaginary parent for adults who are afraid to ever be alone.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, the bogey man in the sky used by Catholic priests to terrify children into silence about their sexual assaults on them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, a magic wish-granting genie. Alleged friend of con-men who exploit this special relationship to solicit funds from the gullible without providing any service in return.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, the mythical excuser that suspends normal morality, turning murder and rape of children into a virtue in time of war.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of God
God: noun, supernatural being who spies on people and rewards and punishes them disproportionately. In other words, the adult version of Santa Claus.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Hell
I imagine hell as being trapped eternally inside the It’s A Small Small World Disneyland attraction.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Idolatry
Idolatry is defined as trusting an object, person or idea to transform life for the better. What is the alternative? Trusting an imaginary being. So idolatry is not quite as foolish as it is made out to be.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Islam
Islam: the exaltation of cruelty.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Law
To a scientist, a law is a mathematical summary of how the universe has invariably been observed to behave. To a priest, a law is a commandment from God as to how the humans ought to behave.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Magic
Magic is the art of persuading people that they saw things that didn’t happen. Ditto for religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Morality
If you think of morality as just an arbitrary list of taboos, (such as Leviticus), of course, science cannot help you determine what is moral and what is immoral. However, if you think of morality as a list of rules of thumb to make a society run more smoothly for the benefit of all, then science can tell you which rules will have which salutary effects on happiness.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Morality
Morality is how you must behave if you want my approval.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Morality
When the religious right use the term morality, they mean condemning people for their private sexual practices. When atheists use the term, they mean not harming others, consideration for others, treating even your enemies fairly and leaving the world in good shape for future generations.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Myth
A lie implies trying to trick others into thinking something untrue is true. A myth, is just a fictional story, made up to entertain, instruct or persuade. The author makes no pretense it is true. Originally, before Christianity, Noah was a myth, but then Christians tried to fob it off as literal truth. The myth became a lie.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Person of Faith
When someone says I am a person of faith, what he means is I am a gullible boob who will believe absolutely anything with absolutely no evidence at all, hardly something to confess publicly.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
An Christian says to himself, I pray X happens. He means, I don’t think this will happen by itself so I am calling for divine intervention to make it happen. An Atheist says to himself, I hope X happens. He is just clarifying to himself his desired goal. This may help him plan the best actions to make it happen. When there is nothing you can do, both approaches are equally efficacious. In other words, even if you pray the universe just unfolds as it would have anyway. Prayer does nothing. If it did work, Allstate would offer a discount for being Christian. When there is something you can do, the atheist approach is more effective, rather than relying on a non-existing deity to do the work. That’s why Allstate does offer a discount for installing an intruder alarm, but nothing for praying to god to keep intruders away.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
Doing nothing while pretending to control the universe with your mind.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
Doing nothing while pretending the creator of the universe finds your yammering about your petty desires and pathetic little life fascinate him when he knows everything already.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
Doing nothing while pretending you have the ear of the creator of the universe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
Doing nothing while pretending you have the full attention of the creator of the universe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
If you must pray, do it in a rocking chair. At least then you will accomplish nothing twice as fast.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
Prayer is a way of insulting the creator of the universe by pretending to waste his time with trivia, babbling on and on about what he already knows. You treat him the way your mother treats you, phoning then talking non-stop not letting you get word in edgewise.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
Praying is just an obsessive compulsive disorder left untreated for religious reasons.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
Praying repeatedly is undiagnosed obsessive compulsive disorder.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Prayer
When a Christian says I pray that X happens. he is asking his god to deal with it. He is washing his hands of doing anything useful to make it happen. He is not requesting that anyone help. When an atheist says I hope that X happens. he is simply announcing his preference to one and all how he wants things to turn out. He is asking anyone in earshot to do what they can to help. He will himself do what he can to help. He has absolutely no belief that the desired thing will happen via supernatural intervention.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Purpose
The word purpose is a slippery word. It has many meanings. For example:
- It can mean, does X have any benefit to some being? The purpose, from the point of view of earthworms, of humans is to grow trees that drop leaves to eat.
- It can mean, is X earmarked for some project? Does that pile of rocks over there to be used in the retaining wall or is it just discards.
- It can mean, was X constructed to achieve some end and what was that end? Does this pointed flint have a purpose?
- It can mean, presumably a god created this. Why? What is the purpose of the universe.
The concept of purpose presumes some being enjoying X as a means to an end. To be clear, you need to be explicit who that being is because the answer differs for different beings. People often pretend to be looking for a universal purpose, when they actually mean a purpose for an imaginary god, or that they imagine the universe itself is a god-like consciousness.
When apologists say The universe must have a purpose, therefore god exists. they are playing word games. The notion of universal purpose presumes a god. So they are basically presuming the existence of god to prove the existence of god to sneakily beg the question to trick people into accepting the notion of god, a rather dishonest bit of circular logic.
When you ask What is my purpose. What you are really asking is What task has god assigned to me?. Since there is no god, there is no such task. You have to choose some tasks yourself. If you don’t choose any, you will lead a useless life. The tasks you choose will presumably be much more suitable and useful than ones a church would assign to you. Further, you are free to change them at any point. It much preferable to being assigned some immutable, dreary purpose like selling Christianity door to door.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
doing stupid things in the name of a deity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
A masochistic desire to surrender to a sadistic, unjust master.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
A pathological attraction to that which is patently untrue.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion : noun, a phobia of an elderly, white-bearded, invisible man who likes to hide in clouds, spy on teenagers masturbating and torture people.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is an early attempt at science, now extremely obsolete. Imagine 2000 years from now people who insist on using only year 2013 science. If was good enough for granny, it is good enough for me. They are the neo-Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is the belief that the universe is capricious, that it is not predictable, that it does not work with mathematical laws.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is believing in something that is clearly not so. Similar beliefs include racism, attitudes toward drug enforcement, the efficacy of prisons, homeopathy, alien abductions, attitudes towards the poor… Oddly, of these, only religion has a good reputation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is believing things for which their is no evidence and pretending to know things you do not, then burning, torturing or in a profusion of ways harming those who refuse to go along with your delusion. Making excuses for it is stark raving bonkers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is about belonging to a team and surrendering your mind to the group. To belong to the group, you must at least pretend to believe whatever the group believes. What you believe has nothing to do with reason. It requires numbing the brain with cant provided by the group. The most intelligent people can’t stand this thought-denying strait jacket and leave.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is a claim to know things with absolute certainty without any explanation of how these things were discovered or any evidence why they are true. It as silly as claiming with absolute certainty there are 23 different Higgs Boson particles without any supporting experiments or math.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is a cowardly response to the fear and sadness of dying. It is a comforting lie. Yet it is such a silly lie that nobody but suicide bombers truly believes it. It makes death all the more frightening, since, if death were not a truly terrible thing, why would we lie about it?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
A religion is a cult that has enough money for a PR (Public Relations) department.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is empirical claims by a large group of people that are presumed certainly true without evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is how the herd instinct expresses in humans.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is like penis enlargement spam. It is a torrent of lies, that you can’t stop legally even though there is not even the tiniest shred of evidence to support the outlandish claims. Gullible twits keep buying it because they wish so strongly it were true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is like some twisted rôle-playing game where long ago the players forgot it was all make-believe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is man’s worst invention. What about war? We humans did not invent that. Hornets and ants were waging war for millions of years before humans stepped out on the planet.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion is promoting made-up stories as absolute truth then harming people who do not believe them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
A religion is a set of customs, values, ceremonies and beliefs for organising a society. The problem comes from arrogance when members believe theirs in the the only religion, that they are right and everyone else is wrong and as such they have a right to impose it on everyone else. They are the analog of fanatical bowlers who believe bowling is the only legitimate sport and attempt to ban baseball, basketball etc. and make bowling mandatory.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religion: a mental illness kept out the DSM-III for fear of upsetting the majority who have it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religion
Religions are gigantic parasites on the body politic. It is only a matter of time until austerity demands they give up their privilege. It used to be that churches provided services akin to the modern community center, soup kitchen, homeless shelter, abused women shelter… They do longer do that, but still get paid as if they did.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Religious Freedom
Religious freedom protects you from interference when you want to do nutty things for religious motives. It does not really apply if you want to do sensible things for religious reasons. For example, if you were a Mormon and you grew vegetables in your back yard for religious reasons, nobody is likely to interfere. But, however, if you decided to hack off your labia and clitoris with a rusty razor, or treat your brain cancer with nothing but priest-blessed water, many people might be tempted to intervene. Religious freedom protects your right do silly and self-harmful things for religious reasons.
However, it does not protect your right to do harmful things to other people, including your children. It is debatable whether it should allow you to do nutty things to your children like make them wear doilies on their heads so they will be beat up at school. It does not give you the right to impose your religious beliefs or practices on anyone else (even if you are utterly convinced yours are divinely correct and everyone else’s are unspeakably evil). In particular, you may not force others to pray to your god or show deference toward it/them, or even acknowledge its/their existence.
Religious Freedom Restoration is completely different. It primarily permits Christians to persecute homosexuals and non-Christians and permits Christians to impose their religious observances on others in schools and public places.
Personally, I don’t think you should even be allowed to impose your religion on your own children. That should be their decision when they come of age. You can, of course, teach your children about your religion, but you should not use threats, violence or force to shove it down their throats.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definition of Special Pleading
A debating trick favoured by Christians. They claim a exception to the general rule without giving any justification for the exception. Normally blind faith is completely unreliable, but when Christians use it to determine truth, it is infallible.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Wikipedia definition Nizkor definition Rational Wiki definition Logically Fallacious definition
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- atheism: does not believe in the existence of any god, including Satan. The term has no implications about morality. An atheist may or may not be opposed to religion. It is analogous to someone who does not collect stamps.
- secularism: concerned with separation of church and state and the rôle of religion in public affairs
- humanism: concerned with ethics, without resorting to religious arguments.
People who have a firm conviction that there exists a supreme Being, are either Deist or Theist. Deists are people who believe in a supreme being, a creator who does not meddle in the affairs of the universe. They see god as a like a clockmaker who designed and wound up the universe and let it run by divine physical laws. Theists are people who believe in a supreme being who intervenes in the day-to-day operation of the universe, in particular answering prayer, rewarding the virtuous, punishing the wicked and impressing with miracles.
Technically, atheists are everybody else, anyone without such a firm belief, including anyone who rates it merely likely or unlikely there is a supreme being. However, in popular use, atheists include only people confident there are no supreme beings.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definitions of Atheist
The ancient Romans fed Christians to the lions because they were atheists, who refused to worship Jupiter and his friends. Muslims slaughter Buddhists because they are atheists, who refuse to worship Allah. American Christians persecute anyone as atheist who does not worship Jesus. Religious folk clearly use the term atheist in a much weaker sense than we atheists do. We atheists refuse to worship or even believe in the existence of any gods.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Definitions of Fundamentalism
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Belief in the total incompetence of scholars of your religion in the current day, and the divine inerrance of those centuries ago.
- Fear and hate of people who do not have the exact same religious beliefs as you.
- Pretending to follow some holy book literally, while ignoring at least 90% of it.
Definitions of Morality
The term morality refers to three different things:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Imposing ancient rules of conduct derived from iron-age religions on others.
- Deciding what to do when short and long term interests call for different actions.
- Arranging group behaviour that benefits all, but which would be detrimental if most in the community did not co-operate.
In the old days before self-defrosting fridges, defrosting would take several hours. For the first few hours, nothing would appear to be happening, but drop by drop the ice was loosening. Then suddenly it would come crashing down in big sheets. I hope a similar process will erode Christianity and eventually bring it crashing down.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When I was in high school, monotheism was presented as some great intellectual advance. Nonsense! It was a degeneracy, a triumph of simplistic dichotomous thinking.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deists vs Theists
Deists are people who believe in a supreme being, a creator who does not meddle in the affairs of the universe. They see god as a like a clockmaker who designed and wound up the universe and let it run by divine physical laws. Theists are people who believe in a supreme being who intervenes in the day-to-day operation of the universe, in particular answering prayer, rewarding the virtuous, punishing the wicked and impressing with miracles.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A Deity vs My Deity
The deist claims not only that a god exists, but he has special knowledge of what that deity desires. He claims nearly every other deist who makes that claim is wrong. Yet he expects us to kowtow to him alone merely because he has argued that it is possible a deity could exist (not necessarily his).~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deity Without Afterlife
Even if a deity existed, that is not of much consequence unless there was also a afterlife. Clearly a deity does not punish or reward in our actual lifetime. Without an afterlife, there is no particular reason to placate him.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Qur’an erroneously states that fresh and salt water do not mix. You can take a group of Muslims to watch a river enter the ocean, or perform an experiment in the lab to demonstrate this is not so. However, they will still insist fresh and salt water do not mix. They are so afraid of social disapproval and violence from fellow Muslims, they will lie about what they just saw. Further, I have heard Muslims citing this lack of mixing as proof of the divine scientific wisdom of the Qur’an. It is like crazies hammering nails into their heads to keep themselves stupid.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deluded in Public
Christians go on about their religious delusions, in public, to strangers. It is a bit like someone on the bus telling you about the colour and texture of their bowel movements or their techniques of masturbation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Delusion the Universe Is Fair
One of the symptoms of infection by a god virus is a delusion that the universe is fair.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are not just wrong, they are delusional. They cannot tell right from wrong. They cannot tell logical from crazy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Delusional World
The problem with Christianity is that it creates an alternative reality, a delusional world to live in. Christians frantically lie to each other to maintain the illusion. They ignore the pressing problems of the real world and in the process seriously harm non-Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
People with delusions cling to them strongly. They will not even consider the possibility they might be wrong. Why?
- They get to feel superior to those who do not share the delusion. The fewer people accept the delusion, the greater the effect.
- Delusions are often all-explaining. They greatly simplify the universe without actually giving any ability to predict it. The deluded get to feel supremely wise.
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- If the deluded believe in prayer, they will rely on it rather working toward the goal.
- If the deluded believe in an afterlife, they will sacrifice normal pleasures.
- If the deluded believe the bible is the commands of god, they might kill a gay person or a non-virgin bride, then pay the legal consequences.
- If the deluded believe people or demons are spying on them and working to flout them, they make their lives miserable defending against non-existent enemies.
- If the deluded believe in creationism, they exclude themselves from many scientific or medical careers.
Delusions of Grandeur
People who pray are suffering from an extreme delusion of grandeur, that the creator of the universe takes correction from them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Delusions of Grandeur
Why is it that when people hear a voice in their head the first thing that comes to mind it, It is god, the creator of the entire universe come to personally visit me, the most important being there ever was. I am surprised people are so overtly grandiose. It is bit like imagining it must be Queen Elizabeth or President Obama when they hear a knock on the door. I would think they might presume something more modest such as a ghost, a shaman, a demon, a guru, a neighbour, the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency), an angel or their own subconscious. Imagining you are on par with Moses is self-flattery gone mad.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Delusions About Your Significance to the Universe
Giving up your belief in the Christian Sunday school god means giving up the fantasy that the creator of the universe cares about you and your petty concerns. There is plenty of love in the universe if you open yourself to others and if you are willing to care for yourself with the same kindness you might care for a child. If your are a cruel dictator, treating yourself worse than you would dream of treating any other person, then any amount of deluding yourself the creator of the universe adores you will not possibly be able to compensate.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deists complain that we atheists show them lack of respect. What sorts of things do they expect us to do to show respect?
- Not contradict them.
- Show deference to church officials.
- Not make fun of their beliefs.
I don’t show this degree of respect to anyone, not even the leaders of my country, not even famous scientists. To encourage people like me to rise to this level, you would expect then the deists would show this exaggerated respect in return. What do they do instead?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Ad hominem attacks accusing atheists of having no morality.
- Ad hominem attacks accusing people who question religion as evil.
- Accusations of vague crimes.
When Christians demand respect for their religion, they are demanding that other people pretend to take it as seriously as they do. They want people to lie. They can’t stand it that other people think their religious is not only wrong, but preposterous.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Demanding What Is Easy For You Of Those For Whom It Is Difficult
It is tempting for those whose hormones no longer course to demand celibacy from others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Demons and Gods
Men pray to imaginary gods to protect them from imaginary demons. The Christians thus spend more effort convincing the public of the existence of demons than of gods.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Denial You Were Conned
People who have been seriously conned often refuse to admit it. Why?
- They can’t face the fact they have been conned. Instead, they throw good money after bad on the off chance it is not a con.
- They don’t want to admit to others what chumps they were, especially to people who warned them about the con.
- They don’t want others finding out how stupid they were.
- The con men are charming people. They don’t like accusing them no matter how strong the evidence.
- The con men have convinced them it is somehow wicked to doubt the con and virtuous to be taken by it.
- All their friends are still taken by the con and try to convince them there is nothing to worry about.
Religion is one of the most successful cons. It is legal. Anything goes. It has its tentacles into government and can thus operate out in the open.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Denying the Evil In The Holy Books
Every time a religious fanatic commits some ghastly crime, people from his religion will proclaim that sort of behaviour is not condoned by their religion or their holy book. That is not true. In holy books, invariably the deity kills and tortures non-believers or commands his followers to. For example, very little else but such killing of infidels happens in the Old Testament, the foundation of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Believers surely are aware of this, but they pretend it is not there.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Denying Pleasure To Others
The Christian’s greatest joy would be to destroy every pornographic image on the planet, except his favourites. His joy comes from denying pleasure to others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Catholic church convicted Galileo Galilei of heresy in 1634. This was 40 years after Columbus, 100 years after Copernicus and 110 years after the reformation. The church to this day spreads FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) to block the advance of science. Science, without consciously meaning to, debunks religious myths, which erodes ecclesiastical power and wealth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Denying the True Self
Every person has a true self. If he tries to be someone else, he is miserable. The church creates so much suffering by convincing people they should all be subdued and identical, the way that church wants them to be.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Why work to deprogram Christians?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- To stop them from harming others.
- To free them from painful delusions.
- To stop them from interfering with science education.
- To stop them from interfering with ameliorating climate change.
- To clear the world of lies and false information.
The main atheist strategy for converting Christians is to wait for one to attack and attempt to sell them on Jesus. They then try an irritable counter attack. Instead of going after the hardest nuts first, it might be more productive to go after the low-hanging bananas.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God is supposed to guide the stars and answer prayers, but he is 100% undetectable. Even Christians admit this. Stars follow Newtonian mechanics. There has never once been any sign of a star twitching at the hand of some supernatural tweaker. Every study of prayer shows it is ineffective. The same thing happens whether you pray or not. God is not performing his two key duties (or any others). There is no sign of his existence, not even of his past existence. The most logical explanation is he does not exist or has left the building.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Deserving Con Men
A secular con man, such as a Republican, convinces his fellows he deserves special treatment because of his inherent superiority. A religious con men convinces his fellows he deserves special treatment, including being given money tax free, not because he is so wonderful, but that he is the representative of some powerful and deserving supreme being who appointed the con man to speak on his behalf.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Deserving Wealthy
Christian doctrine says one should help the poorest of the poor first. Yet I have noticed that North Americans have nothing but contempt for the homeless. However, they are extremely generous to someone whose house has burned down or whose house was destroyed in a flood. The principle seems to be that when the wealthy lose, they are the most deserving.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians, and even more so Muslims, designed a horrible hell — having your flesh burned off, only to have it replaced so it could be burned off again. But the design of heaven could use some work. There is nothing to do in heaven, except play harp and sing Christian music. There is no escape. There is no sex. There is no marriage. This hell to me.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Desire To Be A Slave
The desire that a omnipotent bully of a god exist is a yearning to be a slave. That has nothing to do with whether such a god exists, but it says volumes about those who fantasize about one.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Desire for Son to Become a Priest
In some parts of the world, a mother’s fondest wish is for her son to become a priest. The woman is so bamboozled, she is willing to give up grandchildren and push her son into a life of crime. As a priest he will lie to people that he knows for certain that various impossible things are true. As a priest he will extort people with false promises of eternal bliss and empty threats of eternal torture. His victims are the poor, the ignorant and the gullible. He will create needless guilt and anxiety by browbeating children into thinking acts that harm no one are serious crimes. And, of course, he will either rape and abuse children or aid and abet others to do so. Logically, priests should have less prestige that bank robbers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Why would someone desperately cling to such obvious nonsense as Christianity? It would have to be someone so terrified of non-existence that they would rather experience hell, or someone who could not let go of the fantasy of being reunited with someone who had died.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Desperate For Heaven
The man most convinced that a god will shower him with boons after his body rots is the man whom fortune treats most shabbily now, like a compulsive gambler utterly convinced a slot machine, with absolute certainty, will soon pay out simply because it hasn’t ever done so before.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Despising Wishful Thinking
If I decided what to believe based on wishful thinking, rather than what the evidence pointed to being true, I would intensely despise myself, thus I can’t understand how Christians live with themselves.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Destroying Common Sense
Con men needed a way to destroy their marks’ main defence — common sense. So they invented religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Destroying Musical Taste
One of the more unfortunate effects of modern Christianity is the way it destroys all vestiges of musical taste.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If people cannot produce evidence and reasons for what they say, that is a pretty good indication they are BSing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In a murder mystery, you detect the criminals by looking for inconsistencies in their stories. You look for motives to lie, dissemble or exaggerate. You take hearsay with a large grain of salt. You look for physical evidence to back up or refute testimony. You look for corroboration. If you brought the same skills to religion…~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is not unreasonable to settle a dispute by checking how either side’s story fits in the big accepted picture of reality. The correct view should normally be consistent with the big picture. However, this technique does not work when religion is involved because the big picture is just a fiction and as such has only weak internal consistency.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The devil is just an excuse for making fooling life decisions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Everything you have learned about the devil from songs was just made up by songwriters.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Devil More Likely Than God
If there were a god, why do so many really horrible things happen to innocent people out of the blue? That sounds more like evidence for a supreme devil than a god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Worship of Satan is even more idiotic that worship of Jehovah. It has meaningless rituals, silly costumes, unsubstantiated belief. It does not even have some hypocritical virtue like Christianity does. It is so insulting when Christians accuse us atheists of devil worship, as if we were even crazier than they are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are dichotomous thinkers. They divide all propositions into either true or false. Scientists tend to think about degree of accuracy. They might say Newton’s laws are true at least to 10 significant digits, but they fall apart when objects start moving near the speed of light. Then you have to use relativistic equations to get good results. We many eventually find yet another approximation to reality that is good to 20 significant digits. Even then we will still use the simple Newtonian equations when dealing with car crashes and Einsteinian ones for controlling GPS (Global Positioning System) satellites. Christians seem to think Einstein proved Newton wrong. No, he found an even more accurate approximation for an extreme condition. Newton is just as correct as he ever was.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
People seem to be ridiculously polarised. Either they refuse the accept the possibility anything ever happening to them that is not fully understood by science, or they are completely gullible believing any supernatural/religious tales without any evidence to support them. Surely there is a middle ground where you acknowledge that science has only begun to understand the universe and that humans are smart enough to understand only a minute fraction of what is so.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Difference Between an Christian and a Psychotic
The only difference between a Christian and a delusional psychotic who thinks an invisible being is out to get him, is Christians have published a book about their delusions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Difference Between Christians and Atheists
The difference between a Christian and an atheist is that Christians believe 59,999 religions are bogus and atheists believe 60,000 are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Difference Between Religion and Science
Religion makes claims without evidence. Science makes claims with repeatable evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Difference Between Religion and Science
Religions desperately fight against changing, even when what they are doing is clearly not working. They have an obsessive attraction to tradition. When science discovers it is wrong, it changes, at worst within a generation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Difference Between A Scientist and a Believer
A scientist believes whatever has the most evidence. A religious person maintains loyalty to what his mother taught him. He will only abandon it when it becomes absolutely implausible. A perceived truer alternative is not sufficient to abandon the original beliefs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Difference between a Scientist and a Christian
To a scientist, what matters is what is true. What you believe is irrelevant. To a Christian, what matters is what you believe. What is true is irrelevant.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Difference is Evidence
Every religion thinks it is the best, the only truth. Atheists are no different. The difference is atheists have some evidence to support their claim. Nobody else does.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Different Arguments for Different People
Atheists bombard Christians with arguments that atheists find compelling, why atheists find Christianity repulsive and wrong. However, the sort of people who succumb to Christianity are not the same sort that do not. They may abandon Christian superstition for quite different reasons than would persuade an atheist. We need to interview ex-Christians to find out what ideas helped them break free and compile them sorted by effectiveness.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Different Lie To Each Culture
If there really were a god, why did he tell a different lie to each of 10,000 cultures?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dinosaurs on the Ark
Given that no human fossil has ever been found anywhere near a dinosaur fossil, it strikes me as absurd to claim dinosaurs and man roamed the earth together. It is even more absurd to claim that man domesticated all the giant meat-eating reptiles enough to wrangle them onto Noah’s ark.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Direct Government Church Subsidy
The German government collects an income tax and hands the money over to the churches. The tax is long standing and not quite as outrageous as it first sounds. If you belong to a church you must pay the tax. Your money goes only to your church. If you don’t belong to a church you don’t have to pay it. You don’t get to decide on the amount. If you don’t pay, you can’t belong to the church. About 70% of church revenues come from church tax. This is about (in 2010).
Proponents of the tax say it allows the churches to be independent. They don’t have to bow to consumer pressure with crass entertainments as they do in the USA. It is not just Germany who does this: Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Sweden, Switzerland do as well. Romania is considering instituting one. The government is subsidising the churches by collecting the taxes with the full force and authority of the state, using its knowledge of income and forcing a uniform tithe. The good news is, the whole game is backfiring on the churches. They are losing members because members don’t want to pay the tax.
In Canada and the USA, churches and televangelists don’t pay property and income taxes. This means even atheists are forced to subsidise the churches. A church is a type of club. The government should not be funding it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religions, usually somewhat under the table, teach the faithful to kill their enemies and rivals. Religions create enemies where there need be none. Religions teach their followers to impose superstitions on others. As technology makes it easier for even lone individuals to wreck mass havoc, you don’t really want unnecessary enemies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religious people spawn child after child, even when they produce nothing but severely disabled children, such as autism, retardation, Down’s syndrome, cystic fibrosis, cerebral palsy etc. Then they expect the rest of us to care for the children or subsidise their care. This is monumentally cruel and irresponsible. This may sound callous, but I think the condition for getting help from the government should be sterilisation of both parents. They have no right to impose such misery on their children motivated by their selfish desire to breed or some mad attempt to placate a sadistic deity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Disagreeing with Sam
Sam Harris and I agree on most matters. We disagree on the following:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Differences with Sam Harris Sam Roedy Issue Islamic suicide bombers are primarily motivated by a desire for heavenly reward. Marital fidelity of strangers is my concern. George Bush’s account of what happened on 9/11 is accurate. People who hold other views are crazy. My morality is very close to an objective universal morality. Attacking Afghanistan was legal and justified. Spirituality is a crock.
I am astounded that anyone would believe something so silly and lacking evidence as a god, but I am even more astounded that Christians would pick one of the most petty, irrational, inconsistent, partisan, callous, sadistic, cruel and petulant of all possible gods to worship. Have they never read the bible?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
No amount of reason will be as effective a string of personal catastrophes in persuading someone that his god does not exist. Discarding faith is preferable to acknowledging his god hates him or could not care less about him.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A true scientist will not discount some phenomena based solely on the fact he can’t think of a mechanism to explain it. He bases it on the quality of the evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Of necessity, most churches discourage people from seeking imaginary visits from Jesus or interpreting voices in their heads as Jesus. Otherwise, people will make up their own doctrines, put them in Jesus’ mouth and ignore those of the church.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Discovering a Leprechaun
If a tiny person who looked like a leprechaun were discovered in Ireland, it would not change much. No laws of science would need to be revised. However, If we discovered evidence of the god Jehovah, absolutely everything would change, since Jehovah often overrides the natural running of the universe, by his own inscrutable reasoning. This is one of the reasons that the notion of a god is dismissed so casually. There is far too much observation of a universe without any sign whatsoever of such overriding. Amateurs who think they have seen such evidence simply don’t know how to compute probabilities correctly.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The majority religion always discriminates against the minority religions. For, example in Syria today, Muslims behead and crucify Christians. Christian Americans beat Muslims with baseball bats. All religions believe they are justified in violence against others because they have the perfect truth and nobody else knows anything. In fact, they are all equally ignorant. They are all mostly wrong. What we need to do is teach all religions how foolish they all are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The more you study the world’s religions, the more apparent it becomes they are all total bullshit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Discussing Private Matters
One of the least attractive features of Christians is their complete lack of shame or embarrassment about discussing the details of other people’s marital fidelities in public, even on national TV. To me this is an intrusive and as in bad taste as exposing details of domestic disputes over who left the toilet dirty or who emitted too much gas as they slept. It is a private matter.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Let every Christian be dis-delusioned!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Disease as Punishment
One of the cruelest habits of Christians is telling people with cancer or other serious diseases it was a punishment from god. They have no evidence for that. That is so cruel to pile on somebody already suffering.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The most terrible lie that Christians tell each other is that the god Jehovah speaks specifically to believers in the form a disembodied voice in their heads. These nitwits then mistake any grandiose voice in their head for the infallible guidance of the creator of the universe. They blindly do whatever the voice commands, even if it is utterly contrary to common sense or scripture. Abraham just about butchered his son Isaac from this error. They never do any checks. If the voice sounds like Charlton Heston, that’s all they need. They don’t even check if it knows scripture. Why would they be so stupid? Vanity. The notion that the creator of the universe and you are on a first name basis and he is coaching you to a magical future is intoxicating to the ego. These twits work hard to avoid looking at the mountains of evidence this voice could not possibly be the actual creator of the universe. They become for all practical purposes schizophrenics controlled by imaginary voices.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
During the bubonic plague, Christians murdered the Jews, motivated by they whacko religion. In their sick view it was a sin to tolerate the presence of Jews.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
To be a Christian you must agree to drink human blood and eat human meat. That is so revolting, I cannot understand how anyone could comply. That is the sort of thing the Manson cult did.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Any time a Christian survives a flood or plane crash and they are later interviewed on the radio they will say something like I don’t why god saved just me and killed everyone else. I am so thankful. How revoltingly conceited to imagine they were superior to everyone else. How disgusting to think it a wonderful thing everyone else was killed but not them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Churches are much like dishonest businesses. The collect money based on promises they do not keep (promising prosperity, health or eternal life). They spend the money on themselves for ornate buildings, elaborate clothes, cars etc. They produce nothing. They increase intolerance, bigotry and hatred. They encourage scientific ignorance. Why should they get preferential tax treatment over ordinary businesses or clubs? I would think that special treatment would be unconstitutional. It favours large churches over small and god-based religions over secular philosophies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If you feel disillusioned, you must have been harbouring some illusions in the first place.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If you feel disillusioned, you must have been illusioned.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Let every Christian be dis-illusioned!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
All you should really have to say to the Christians is, Begone you lying dirtbags. You made this all up as part of your con to rip me off. I am not buying such silly crap!, however, you can’t get them off your back that easily.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dismissing Nearly All Gods
Most North Americans dismiss all of the 60,000 god myths but one. The only thing that distinguishes the one they single out from the rest is that their parents exposed them to it at tender age and told them it was true. Had that not happened, that particular god myth would have had no power above the rest. It would appear just as absurd as all the others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dismissing The Unexamined
I can’t get over that religious people have no shame whatsoever about their arrogance. They claim 60,000 of the world’s religions are bunk, except one, the one they fell into by accident of birth. They make this claim without even examining so much as one of the religions they rejected. That is like someone claiming the Lada is the best automobile when they had never driven or ridden in anything else.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine if a sect got going that claimed the Disney animated characters were real. They used the films as evidence. They found people in mental hospitals who had encountered them in divine visions. They gained new recruits by spiking people’s coffee with LSD then using hypnotic induction. As the sect got larger it became taken seriously. They could force universities to host debates such as: resolved Goofy is Pluto’ father Others considered them crazy and tiresome, but they were such dedicated evangelists it forced everyone to humour them and debate topics as Prayer to Mickey is highly effective or There is only one religion and Mickey is its god and Walt its facilitator. These people would be less crazy and far less dangerous than Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
William Lane Craig makes all kinds of claims about god without evidence, then says he is not delusional because we cannot prove what he says is false. Had he told us that there is a giant blue teddy bear at the center of moon, that would be a clearly a delusion, even though there is no way to disprove it. It is a delusion because Craig would have no reason to suspect the presence of the teddy bear. He just made it up. He would have no evidence for his assertion. That is why it is a delusion, not because no one can disprove it. His claims about god are just as absurd and baseless.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Disrespecting a Cheese Sandwich
I can’t respect a religion that cons people into buying a cheese sandwich for $28,000 because the burn marks on it vaguely resemble a bearded man.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Distaste For Both Christians and Nazis
Christians have threatened by life thousands of times more often than Nazis have. So it is no great surprise I dislike both groups roughly equally.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Distrust the Delusional
We consider it poor form to discriminate against someone based on his religion, yet we consider it common sense to discriminate against someone who is delusional. Surely it is unwise to trust someone whose religion asserts the end times are near and that the end of the world is a Good Thing™ to captain a nuclear submarine.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Divide and Conquer
Divide and conquer! It is much easier to debunk Apollo than gods in general. We must look where religions differ and attack those differences. In doing that, we enlist the entire rest of the religious community as allies. They are already atheists to each others gods. Similarly, focus on the differences between Catholics and protestants and various protestant sects. It would not hurt to have the entire religious community echoing our arguments about how foolish they all are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Illusionist Criss Angel daily performs magic that is much more impossible than anything Jesus reputedly even attempted. We are supposed to believe Jesus is the son of god based on anonymous third hand reports of his performances/miracles. Then should not Criss’s performances/miracles performed live also convince us that Criss is even more divine than Jesus?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
On 2010-06-14, when lightning destroyed a 18.90 metres (20.67 yards) Touchdown Jesus statue near Cincinnati, no one invoked divine displeasure at the kitschy artwork.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I have to laugh at Christians with bad breath and flatulence preening themselves with the knowledge they were divinely created.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Do as I Say, Not As I Do
The irony is Santa admonishes kids to tell the truth, but he himself is a lie. Talk about sending your kids mixed messages.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Do It Now
It may take centuries to wipe the last vestige of religion from planet earth. That is no excuse either for or against procrastinating.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Do You Believe?
Here are some questions to probe your belief in a deity:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Do you believe a deity created the universe including itself?
- Do you believe a deity intervenes in your life changing what would otherwise happen naturally?
- Do you believe that Jesus Christ died, his corpse started to rot, then he came back to life after three days?
- Do you believe it is possible to petition a deity or other supernatural being successfully to make your life more pleasant?
- Are the clergy/pope capable of intervening on your behalf with a benign deity?
- Is there a deity that cares how humans behave?
- Does the church have special ability to guess what the top deity (if any) in the universe wants?
- It is true that there is exactly one deity in the universe and he calls himself Jehovah?
Do You Need God To be Moral?
Religious people claim you need to pretend there is a god watching you all the time to behave morally. But this is not so. Secular countries have much lower crime rates than religious ones. In the USA, religious people are disproportionately represented in prisons. Evangelicals have a much higher divorce rate. The religious have higher teen pregnancy rates and higher abortion rates. Child abuse and sexual abuse is higher in religious households and even higher in very religious households. Jehovah himself is a bad role model. He has no impulse control. He tortures and murders like a reincarnation of Jeffrey Dahmer. Religion is essentially lying to yourself with comforting wishful thinking. That cannot help but warp your moral sense.The Damn Commandments
One of the causes of Christian immorality is confession. The sinner confesses to a crime such as child molesting. The priest is bound to secrecy no matter how much damage the sinner is doing. The priest assigns a token secret penance, typically saying three Hail Marys for molesting. The sinner makes a donation. The priest does some magic and presto, supposedly it is as if the sin never happened. The sinner is washed clean, eager to sin again. But, of course, the effects of the sin are unchanged. Confession does nothing to make amends to the victim or to discourage the sinner from repeating.
This just shows you what a con the church was all along. They fool the congregation into believing they can magically undo sins in return for cash. It is just a trick to pull in the rubes. It is a doubly wicked con because they not only rip off the congregation promising and not delivering, they lead them into moral degradation. Finally, the priests learn secrets on everyone that they can hold over them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Doctor of Bullshitology
You would think a doctor of divinity would be a historian who specialised in the study of the religious beliefs of various peoples, but it is actually a degree in bullshitology. It is a game where people compose a collective work of fiction.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Doctor of Harry Potter
When evangelists claim themselves to be Doctors of Theology, just what knowledge did they study? What they spout is all made up. That is like being a doctor of Harry Potter.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Doctors or Amateurs
You have a choice between having doctors do abortions or amateurs doing them. Stopping abortions entirely is not possible because even the most rabidly pro-lifers arrange them for their daughters they get pregnant. The pro-life movement is about making it dangerous for other people to get abortions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dodging the Question
Christians say the origin of the universe baffles them. The only solution they can think of is a sky fairy did it. Christians are generally quite ignorant of the machinations of the universe. Scientists, in contrast, can think of dozens of other possibilities. But, the Christian hypothesis poses an even bigger question. Where did this magic fairy, much more complicated than the universe itself, come from? They announce the question is not valid. They might as well have said probing into the origin of the universe is out of bounds. They have nothing to say about how Jehovah created the universe, only some broad-brush strokes, that are not even correct. This is just a bit of verbal legerdemain to dodge the question.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Does Beauty Imply God?
Christians tell me their evidence for god is Just look around and see the flowers. Obviously because they are so beautiful to the human eye, they were created by a supernatural being named Jehovah [who lives on a cloud, likes to watch teenage girls and boys masturbating and who tortures people after they die.]
My question is What did you expect to see if there were no god? Evolution predicts a competition between plants to persuade insects to spread their pollen and larger animals to spread their seeds. It expects a riot of perfumes, shapes and colours tuned to the visual range of insects (which includes UV ). Did you even consider the possibility the flowers’ beauty is intended for bees, not you? Consider that the flowers and bees were here on earth long before humans. Also, do not confuse cultivated flowers like the pansy with wildflowers. Horticulturalists evolved domesticated flowers through artificial selection over the centuries to appeal to the human ideals of beauty.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Does God Exist?
If nobody can even define what god is, it makes no sense to talk about whether he exists. It is like asking if huffalumps exist.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When the ancient Mayans were faced with a century-long drought, they had only one way to deal with it — human sacrifice. Of course, sacrifices had no effect, but that did not deter them from escalating the intensity of the sacrifices. They refused to look for alternative solutions. The is one more example of how religion makes people terminally stupid.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The reason Christians are so keen on imposing unconstitutional Christian prayers at the start of public meetings is as a dominance display, to tell the atheists and non-Christians that the Christians are in charge and they had better head to the back of the bus. There would be no point in it if the non-Christians did not mind.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians vilify Islam because it aims to convert everyone on earth. I always thought Christianity had the exact same goal.~ Roedy
Donate To Cure Christianity
With your donations to fund research, someday Christians may think again.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Don’t Expect Respect
I respect your legal right to believe in Christianity, but by no means does this imply I respect you for doing so. I think you are as dotty as the little old lady who assures me leprechauns have set up house at the foot of her garden.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In the movie 2001, HAL (Heuristic Algorithmic), the AI (Artificial Intelligence) computer goes insane. It turns out the reason was its programmers had lied to it. This is a metaphor for what happens when you feed a person a nest of lies, otherwise known as Christian dogma. It destroys their general ability to think.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Who would want to join a religion that demanded you knock on doors of people who strongly did not want to talk to you? What woman would want to join a religion where she had to give up all her civil rights to become a drudge and doorstop? What parents would join a religion that required handing over their kids to the clergy to molest? It is amazing the Jehovah’s Witnesses can find even a single convert.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians have utterly no idea just how dotty they are to the non-believer. They sound like children making up absurd stories. Being asked to debate the existence of god, with a straight face, is like being asked to debate the possible existence of a miniature troll under the bridge over the garden pond. It is a preposterous assertion without evidence that should not need to be refuted. Atheists humouring a Christian with a debate about god is similar to a psychiatrist prompting for details about a patient’s delusions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Doukhobors were a religious sect in the headlines in BC Canada in the 1950s. They liked to protest by stripping naked and burning down their houses. They wanted to home school their children in Russian and religious doctrines. They believed in communal ownership of property. The Social Credit BC government of the time took their children away and put them in prisons called residential schools, where they could only see their parents through a fence. They were punished for speaking Russian. Similar to the residential schools for first nations children, the caretakers physically and sexually abused their charges and fed them small quantities of revolting food. To this day, the government of BC has refused to apologise.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Downside of Islam
Islam teaches people to be huffy. It teaches hundreds of new petty reasons to feel outraged and justified in killing others. It ensures Muslims cannot play well with others.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dr. of Divinity
The difference between a Dr. of Divinity and a Dr. of Unicornology is the Dr. of Divinity refuses to admit he studies fiction.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Drake Equation
The Drake equation estimates there are about 10,000 intelligent civilisations just in our Milky Way galaxy alone. There are 60,000 religions on earth, so you might guess there are 100,000,000 of them in our galaxy, presuming the other civilisations are stuck in legacy superstition like us. What are the odds one of our earth religions is the true religion? When you consider the entire universe, the odds become infinitesimal. That means the odds of Judaism, Christianity or Islam being the true religion are negligible.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Islam considers it very wicked to draw Mohammad. As a result, nobody has the foggiest idea what he looked like. Presumably he has typical Arabian features, but that is it. So how can anyone draw him and how can anyone looking at a picture know it is Mohammad? Mohammad is a very common given name. So even if the picture is labelled Mohammad, how is anyone to know the drawing is not one of those Mohammads?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian literature is so insulting, both to the intelligence of the reader and to the creator of the universe who allegedly approved the dreck for publication.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dripping With Insincerity
The very thought of Christianity makes me nauseous. It is so sickly sweet, dripping with insincerity and kitsch. It is the spiritual analogy of cheap sugar donuts.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Driving Out the Moneychangers
When Jesus drove out the moneychangers from the temple, it was actually an outdoor market covering 14.16 hectares (35 acres) surrounded by porticoes and packed with people. Imagine a single person trying to pull this off today — not very likely. They would need a gang of thugs. Further, they would not get very far before security intervened.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What does it take to convince a Christian to drop his belief? Same thing that did it to Darwin — the death of his daughter, Anne. Christians live in a warm fuzzy bubble imagining they are protected and loved by the sky god. When loved ones start dying horribly, that belief becomes untenable. Their folly does not dawn on them until their loved ones die. They don’t get it just watching others suffer. Does god hate them for no reason or was god a childish fantasy?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Dropping religion does not mean ignoring everything in life that science does not cover. It just means dropping the BS, the lies, the claims to know that which is unknowable. It means dropping the arrogant certainty.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Drugs and Christians
Consider people who take illegal drugs like cocaine, heroin, LSD, ecstasy…
- They claim the experience is highly pleasant, worth any cost.
- They try desperately to talk others into joining them.
- Users talk among themselves in a private jargon that makes almost no sense to anyone else.
- Sometimes, they have a fairly tenuous hold on reality. They consider voices in their heads, intuition, some book, some other realm of existence of greater importance.
- They tend to reject science, medicine and law.
- They tend to be paranoid, believing in demonic possession, that they are being watched by some nebulous entity and that some dreadful doom is about to happen.
- They imagine they can safely do dangerous things like drive very fast, jump out of windows, handle poisonous snakes, drink poisons. They may believe they cannot die. They may also believe when they kill people, it is just an illusion.
- They lose ability to function in the day to day world, e.g. hold down a job, raise a family.
- They may become obsessed with some tiny idea that no one else considers significant.
- They are afraid of others performing magic, e.g. having sex in another city in a special way that sends them evil vibes.
- They believe, with extreme conviction, things that are obviously not true.
- When you debate with them the wisdom of their life choice, all you hear back is gibberish. They cannot understand a word you are saying.
- They lose reasoning ability for all but the simplest tasks.
Consider how closely that list matches the characteristics of Christians. Perhaps Christians have found some non-drug way to addle their minds, mimicking the effects of drugs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Duty To Orphans
So long as there is a single child on earth without a loving parent, it is immoral to spawn yet another.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When your computer dies, the data on your hard disk does not go anywhere. It is just irretrievably damaged. Similarly when you die, one or more of your crucial body parts is irretrievably damaged. That failure triggers a chain reaction fatally damaging all your other organs, including your brain. You don’t go anywhere; you just stop functioning, like a broken computer. Without an immune system to hold them in check, bacteria rapidly multiply and you start to rot like the piece of meat you are. There is no evidence for an afterlife. It is just wishful thinking for people too squeamish and conceited to accept that their death is no different than the death of any other animal.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Early Impressions of Jews
My early impressions of Judaism were based on watching our next door neighbours. They were relaxed, easy-going-people who did all manner of interesting things like woodwork, making wine, exotic foods, jazz and modern art. Later influences were Jewish comedians and Jewish delis. Jews struck me as a very strange target for discrimination.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Earth Cannot Survive the Parasites
Our earth is in such bad shape right now, it cannot survive with people actively trying to harm it or doing nothing to protect it. Earth can no longer afford parasites who dedicate their lives to selfish pleasures or trivia such as fashion, money, sports, cars and hunting. It is like chores needed to maintain a house. It works fine if everyone does their bit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Easily Faked Miracles
It is interesting that the god Jehovah never heals burns, facial deformities or amputations, even though, reputedly, these would be trivially easy. Instead he performs only cheap miracles, easy to fake like healing blindness, deafness or lameness, or cancer when there is no diagnosis before or after the alleged merkle. Which is more probable, the miracle was faked or the creator of the universe, after a lifetime of ignoring your every prayer, decided to pull a spectacular miracle right under your nose for a stranger at an event intended to pry you loose from your money?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Nobody can disprove the existence of even the Easter bunny. So why do Christians make such a fuss over the fact nobody knows how to prove the non-existence of Jehovah? They seem to be claiming that inability is a serious reason to believe in the reality of the Easter bunny.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Easy to be God in Roman Times
In biblical times, people thought the emperors of Rome were gods. They were pretty gullible back then. Obviously, the emperors did not have to do anything supernatural to gain this status. I think we should take with a grain of salt any presumption of godhood during the period.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Why are cons so successful? Why don’t people back out when they begin to get suspicious?
Wishful thinkingEven if they think the odds are slim that the con is legit, wishful thinking makes victims hang in there.
Deadbeat thinkingCons always promise that you will get something for nothing or almost nothing. Getting something for nothing has huge appeal to many people, even when it is almost surely a con. People will kid themselves it must be legit even if they can’t work out exactly how the con works.
Peer pressureFriends reassure them the con is legit because they too hope it is and are actually just reassuring themselves.
FlatteryRecall the Emperor’s New Clothes where the con men flattered the emperor convincing him that people taken in by the con were cleverer than others.
Fear of being rudeWhat if they confront the con artists and they are legit? How embarrassing!
Cutting your lossesIf you cut your loses, you must confront how stupid you were and you must take your loss now. If you postpone, you can hope all will turn out ok.
Lack of proofIf you can’t definitely prove this is a con, you can’t very well confront the con artists.
PrideEven when you are sure you have been had, you are ashamed to publicly admit it.
GullibilitySo long as the con man is smarter than the mark, he can feed them a line that holds them for a while longer.
The Church’s Con
A church is an ancient, polished, sophisticated con. The con men promise eternal bliss and threaten eternal torment to extort money. The con is so old and so successful it is never prosecuted and even atheists generally do not recognise it as a con game. The clergy are a privileged criminal class. The church scam has promise of huge reward like a pyramid scheme and promise of magical dire calamity on defection like a chain letter. To play, you must donate money supposedly for God, which, of course, is nonsense. The Church staff spend it. Televangelists are notorious for the frivolous luxuries they spend it on (art, multiple jets, limousines and mansions) In addition, marks must also do a number of easy, silly, random things, like eat fish on Friday or pray to distract them from the basic con.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If Christianity and god are eternal and unchanging, how did it come about that eating meat on Friday suddenly became OK?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ecclesiastical Drag Queens
The Catholic church is run by ecclesiastical drag queens who have conned the poor into paying for their gowns.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Effect of Christianity on Behaviour
Christianity makes people behave worse. Here are two examples:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
- Christian soldiers have less reluctance to kill because they harbour the delusion that killing people is only temporary. They believe their victims will rise again after death.
- Christians feel no pressing need to interfere when a priest molests a child because they believe the god Jehovah will punish the priest severely after he dies. For the child, it is just another of God’s tests.
Effect of Religion
Religion is designed to turn a believer’s mind to mush by force feeding it nonsense. The believer can then be lead about like pig with a ring its nose with no will of his own, unaware even of his own self interest.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Effect of Religion
Religion makes people cling like limpets to ideas that are obviously not true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Effects of Faith
Faith does not make you a better person. It makes you an irrational person who does cruel things without thinking them through.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The bright yellow god helmet stimulates a spot in the right temporal lobe with a varying magnetic field creating an extremely strange subjective experience which Christians interpret as god’s presence. How long will it be until the faith healers develop this technology to the point they can use it to bamboozle the flock into handing over their life savings just by putting their hands on the sides of the mark’s head.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ejecting False Ideas
It is much easier to accept a false idea than to eject one.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Elderly Vulnerable To Christian Threats
Why are the elderly so vulnerable to threats of hellfire?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- By then, they have heard a lifetime of repeated threats.
- The hormones that fought the anti-joy, anti-sex doctrine of the church have waned.
- Death looms soon. The threatened punishment seems imminent.
Eliminating Faith is More Important than Eliminating Religion
When atheists say they want to get rid of religion, they don’t really mean that. They just want to get rid of faith, believing firmly in things without evidence. Religion has all kinds of wonderful things part of it: music, art, ceremonies, fragrances, costumes, myths, stories, choirs, communal suppers, knitting socks for orphans, fund raising for various good causes, food banks, banquets, holiday traditions, sermons, moral codes, traditional foods… None of these things cause trouble. They enrich everyone’s life, not just the followers. The problem comes when a religion makes stuff up, claims, without a spec of supporting evidence that it is absolute truth and then claims everyone else who did the same thing is full of shit, and should be punished for it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Embracing Bronze Age Science
Of all the industrial countries, only the USA has embraced bronze age science and rejected evolution. This garbage education will eventually have consequences when the generation charged with running the country are incompetent to do so.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If you go to school and learn about geography, you expect to have your existing beliefs challenged and corrected. Americans think that faulty beliefs about science, religion and to some extent medicine must be left undisturbed simply because there is a constituency who believe untrue things. They don’t care if these beliefs are actually true. They don’t care if they can’t give any evidence for these beliefs; they want their kids to believe them, even if they are wrong. This pig-headedness sends the international education rank of the USA, lower and lower each year. This will eventually be reflected in economic rank.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Embracing faith is like taking a mild acid trip. You stop experiencing the universe as it is, and start experiencing it as you would like it to be or sometimes as it is in your paranoid fantasies. This can be pleasant or comforting but it impairs your ability to make predictions, to function rationally and to attend to self-preservation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Emotion of Certainty
Science has discovered that certain belief is an emotion. It even knows where it is generated in the brain. It is not a rational process. You might say that asking someone to give up false certainty is like trying to get them to forgo sexual pleasure.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Emotions at Death
I can see nostalgia, regret or sadness at facing the end of your life from natural causes, but fear??? Surely that is only possible if you have allowed yourself to be conned by unscrupulous Christians.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Emperor’s New Clothes
Christians tell their children the fairy tale of the Emperor’s New Clothes, never noticing it is an allegory about the fundamental Christian dishonesty.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Emperor’s New Transubstantiation
Hans Christian Andersen may have written The Emperor’s New Clothes to spoof the phony miracle of transubstantiation where priests claim to convert wine and a cracker into the blood and flesh of a dead man. It is not even a magic parlour trick. Nothing happens, yet people pretend there was a change to be considered holy, just as the townspeople in the fairy tale pretended to see the emperor’s clothes in order to be perceived as wise and competent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity promises to heal the sick and feed the hungry, yet it almost never delivers. Oddly, people cling to these empty promises rather than supporting those who are actually healing the sick and feeding the hungry.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The belief in prophesies that predict wars, famines, floods and hurricanes is so lame. Was there ever a year without wars, famines, floods and hurricanes? It is like a prophesy predicting rain or income tax.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Encounter with Ernest Angely
I once asked the televangelist faith healer Ernest Angley Why is god waiting to heal all these people? He responded by shrieking that I was possessed by the devil and commanded his bodyguards to throw me out onto the street. The truth was too embarrassing to reveal. His phony healings are best staged to maximise contributions. It is important that Mr. Angley and his special status with god, get the bulk of the credit.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Encountering a Con Man
When I encounter a religious con man like Jimmy Lee Swaggart, Ernest Angely or Peter Popoff defrauding elderly ladies, I feel a similar anger to that I would feel had they snatched their purses.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When I was a child I reasoned that likely mankind knew only a tiny fraction of what was knowable. Therefore, I should expect to encounter all sorts of baffling things like UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects), ESP (Extra Sensory Perception) and ghosts that we might gradually figure out. However, in practice, any time I have encountered anything outside normal, nearly always it turned out to be trickery and fraud.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Every time you use the word luck or bless, you are helping spread superstition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
End the Free Ride
Most of the churches teach hate, intolerance and all manner of wickedness, and that does not even count all the batshit crazy stuff. They should do this on their own dime, but they sponge off the community. The community pays for their police protection, water, fire protection etc. They pay no taxes. The constitution prohibits the government from favouring religions. Surely tax exemption is a huge favour. It should be abolished as unconstitutional. Why should people who find various church doctrines utterly odious be forced to subsidise their foul messages? It is like forcing people to bow down to false gods.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
End Justifies The Means
The problem with a utopian ideology, is the end is so attractive, there is no limit on the atrocity it justifies to attain it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
End Kosher and Halal
Slaughter using Kosher and Halal rules originally provided for more humane slaughter and somewhat more sanitary killings. Today Jews and Muslims defend these techniques based on nothing but tradition. They realise these ancient techniques are less humane than modern techniques. They claim the Kosher and Halal slaughter are painless. We know that is not true by asking any human who had their throat slit. They are fighting against the spirit of Kosher and Halal. I don’t see any reason to humour them in this cruel behaviour.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
End Times Christians
End times Christians eagerly await nuclear war and encourage the end of planet earth by every conceivable catastrophe. I wish these criminally insane people would just commit mass suicide with Kool-Aid and leave the earth to the rest of us who want to preserve and cherish it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I think it wisest to tell no one of your end-of-life plans. That makes it more difficult for some busybody to interfere with your written directives.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Islam, like all religions is made up. Because it is a relatively recent religion, it does far less violence to science than other religions, however, it too has its flaws which show it is fiction. Islam is motivating ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) and other terrorists attacking the west. Even the suicide attackers themselves are doubtful what they are doing is Islamic. The USA should fund a massive non-violent initiative to seed doubt about Islam and martyrdom.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ending the World
One of the standard ways to pump up the popularity of a young cult is to pick a date and claim god is going to end the world. When the date passes, you make an excuse and pick another date, or just say it is real soon now. This is exactly what the Jehovah Witnesses did. They picked 1914 as their end of he world date.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Endless Repeated Assertion
People have been debating the existence of the god Jehovah for perhaps 6000 years. If there were any decent evidence, surely it would have been presented by now. There is utterly nothing, just endless repeated assertion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christian BS becomes truth through endless solemn repetition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ends and Means
Because Christianity is a delusion, it is wise to eliminate it from the land. However, it is improper to kill Christians, or harm them in any way. We should treat them with the same compassion we treat other people with delusions. Legitimate techniques for eliminating Christianity include:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- laws to stop Christians from imposing their religious superstitions on others.
Christian schlock teaches, If you want to make god laugh, tell him your plans. What an idiotic thing to say! as if having no plan at all is preferable. Christianity is a plot to keep people in an infantile state, easy to manipulate.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Enjoying the Waning of the Church
It is highly unlikely all the Christian churches will disband in my lifetime, however, I work to that end. It may be possible to at least see they enjoy gradual negative growth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Enough of Superstition
The religiously superstitious are working hard to globally revive polio, most notably in Pakistan. Ironically, the Qur’an has absolutely nothing to say about polio vaccines. They were not even invented until the 1950s. It is just plain superstition and rumour running rampant, nothing to do with religion at all. Generally we try to bend over backwards to accommodate religious and superstitious nonsense, but when it results in child deaths, it is time to put our feet down.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Ensuring You Are Wrong
If you want to be fairly sure you are right, you have to charge someone with the job of proving you wrong.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity developed a monumental sense of entitlement in its followers. They expect god, like some cosmic nanny to provide for them and clean up after them even beyond death. Metaphysically, they are deadbeat welfare recipients. God, like some corrupt government, does not provide the promised goodies, but the followers, like lottery ticket buyers, reassure themselves, the money is coming, real soon now.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The main lesson that has come out of the Catholic church scandal, is that it would have been much safer for parishioners to entrust their children to random strangers than to priests.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The other reason I hate Christians with a burning passion is their religion makes them into environmental vandals. Their monumental conceit is obscene. They imagine the entire universe was created for no other purpose than their personal pleasure. They believe, no other creatures but fellow Christians have any inherent right to life. They believe their god Jesus will soon destroy earth, so there is no need to take care of it. They are the ultimate environmental barbarians. If they find destruction of the earth so seductive, I wish they would commit collective suicide now and let the rest of us get on with repairing the damage they have done to the earth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the functions of religion is to temper the envy of the old for the young. The young can perform all manner of extreme sports and extreme sex, even if they are outrageously rude, selfish and stupid. Religion has to provide some myth to justify this inequity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Equal Rights for Christians
Equal rights for Christians! Christians deserve the same rights as any other delusional people.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Equal Treatment for All Religions
The way I read it, the first amendment requires the government to be blind to a person’s religion. They may not discriminate for or against any particular faith, including atheism. That means the government should not be able to treat a group of secular humanists who meet every Sunday any differently from a group of Southern Baptists. In other words, churches avoiding property taxes and churchgoers getting a tax deduction for contributions should be declared unconstitutional unless the secular humanists were to get those perks too. Put more bluntly, it is wrong and should be illegal for Christians to freeload off everyone else with special privilege based no nothing more than their religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Think about how smallpox was eradicated, with millions of mundane inoculations. The eradication of faith will be done similarly, with millions of insignificant interventions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Erasing Sin is BS
One of the most pernicious religious doctrines is that by saying some incantation or performing a bit of ecclesiastical magic, the effect of a transgression is erased. Clearly such an action does nothing to help a raped child with her trauma, or compensate a man who had his life savings embezzled. Churches assert such ceremonies will erase the deed from God’s records. This just encourages repeat offenses. Peter Cook as the Devil in Bedazzled explained the criminal strategy most clearly. Even the criminal justice system is taken in by this bullshit. They go easier on convicts who claim to have found Jesus.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Escape Into Fantasy
Ghastly experiences in made famous Christian apologist C.S. Lewis become an atheist. However, he could not stomach the grimness of reality and took flight into fantasy. He concocted the delusion that imagination was a valid way of knowing truth and started to believe his own fantasies. He then decided to merge his fantasies with Christian fantasies. I consider him a despicable weakling who decides what is true, not on evidence, but on what he wishes were true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Escaping the Sewer of Christianity
Man’s gradual escape from the insanities of Christianity is like crawling out of a sewer.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The core tenet of Christianity is that, as a Christian, god loves me best, therefore my desires and needs trump yours. You must defer to me and do as I tell you.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Estimating the Unknown
The Christians presume the unknown is filled with whatever they wish it were. They then lie and pretend they have absolute proof for their wild speculation. As a result, they are far too optimistic in estimating the unknown. In contrast, the scientists tend to ignore the unknown and don’t want to count on it containing any good news. The net result is they are too pessimistic in estimating the unknown.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Eternal life sounds boring in the extreme. A more appealing perk for joining a religion would be do-overs. You get to relive certain moments in your life say up to 100 times. You could relive pleasant moment, or correct awkward moments.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Eternal life! For pity sake! Grow up! Stop being such a child! There is no reason whatsoever to imagine you will not die. Touch a dead person. They are like a cold piece of meat. They are not coming back. Besides, you would not like eternal life. Eternity is much longer than the longest imaginable time. You would be monumentally bored. There would be no way out. Stop fearing death. Being dead is completely painless. It is just like the non-existence before you were born.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
You would think a religion would specify the minimum acceptable standards for ethical behaviour. However, Christians and Muslims treat their religions as specifying the highest permissible standards of ethical behaviour.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
In Paul’s writings, there is no mention of Jesus ever living on earth. He is a celestial being who communicates only by revelation. However, 20 years later, when Mark wrote his gospel (on which Matthew, Luke and John were based), Jesus had been euhemerised with a life on earth, a ministry and miracles, not a word of which had been mentioned in Paul. This strongly suggests that Jesus never was a historical person.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evading the Question
Christians have a strange way of persuading in debate. You ask, Why do you believe as you do? What evidence is there for your position? They reply You just want to sin. You hate god. If you don’t trust me you will be tortured for eternity, so you have better just shut up and believe without any questions. I am anointed by god. You are not. You can’t possibly understand these things until you have blind faith in me that they are true. Jesus died as a human sacrifice for your sins. You should feel guilty for your crime.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Nietzsche pointed out that the way Christians dealt with misfortune, weakness and vice was to rename them and pretend they were virtues. For example: sexlessness ⇒ purity; weakness ⇒ goodness; submission to people one hates ⇒ obedience; not being able to take revenge ⇒ forgiveness.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
We should judge religious claims the same as any other, e.g. were there really hanging gardens in Babylon? Was there really a Noah’s ark? Does the Mafia fix football games? Does the god Jehovah fix football games based on which fans pray most?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One way to evaluate religions would be to monitor how frequently in each day their clergy laugh.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Even Christians Know that Trusting God Is Mad
When a Christian sets out on a dangerous undertaking with absolute trust God will protect him, he is mad. He knows full well God does not routinely protect people from harm and Christians experience just as much mishap as anyone else.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Every Person You Ever Loved
Every person you ever loved was made of ordinary atoms obeying the standard laws of physics. Weren’t they amazing! Why would anyone complain the loved one was not enough, and demand some imaginary magic sky fairy sprinkles on top?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The racist Conservative Party have enacted a regulation that Muslim women must disrobe for citizenship ceremonies. (They must remove the veil they consider necessary for public decency.) I suggest a modest proposal. If Muslims must disrobe, so should everyone else, including the judge. After all, Christians can hide firearms, bottles of acid and bombs under all that unnecessary clothing.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Everything You About God Some Human Told You
Christians (and Muslims for that matter) don’t seem to understand their beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with a deity, but 100% with what other people told them. They confuse their trust in whatever created the universe with their trust in fellow fallible humans including a large helping of scoundrels eager to exploit the gullibility of their fellows.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians believe 1000 metaphorical stories and outright lies are worth more than one fact in substantiating an assertion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a state decides to make rejecting the state religion illegal, it behooves the state to post a list of the evidence for the state religion. I know of no religion with any evidence whatsoever. Perhaps this exercise would give them second thoughts.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is quite amusing watching religious fundamentalists debating with atheists. The fundamentalist makes a supernatural claim, stating it as if it were some ordinary historical fact like Caesar crossed the Rubicon in 49-01-10BC. The atheist asks for evidence to support the claim.
Thinking that everyone shares his believe in the perfection and absolute authority his scripture, he quotes some scripture. The atheist replies, No, I meant corroboration. e.g. archaeology, other ancient manuscripts, civil records, astronomy…. The fundamentalist replies But I am totally convinced. I am 140% sure in my heart. Why won’t you believe me?.
The poor fundamentalist confuses feeling convinced (which is simply a side effect of his early brainwashing) and having evidence for his claims. He is convinced by the feeling of conviction, which has nothing to do with the truth of this assertion, and certainly nothing to anyone else. Think how many times when you bought a lottery ticket you were sure this time you would win.
Two thirds of people on earth reject the bible as authorative. Nearly all the ones that do were brainwashed into thinking that as infants before they were old enough to notice what nonsense it was and how it is completely counter to fact.
Imagine you were a sasquatch enthusiast. You had never seen one yourself. You had no photos, hair, DNA, scat, bones, fossils, cave paintings… However, you had a book, written anonymously, claiming anonymous people in the deep past had seen them. The book did not explain how the author discovered this information. How successful would you be convincing others that sasquatches exist doing nothing but quoting from this book? Your odds are similar quoting from the bible.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence Against Jehovah
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Missing archaeological evidence for Moses and the exodus.
- Missing archaeological evidence for David and Solomon.
- Thousands of impossibilities in the Noah story.
- Lack of evidence for a global flood.
- Lack of intelligent design in nature. The design is bungling trial and error without planning.
- Wrong age of the universe.
- Flat earth. Metal canopy over earth. Celestial ocean.
- Cause of disease not demons.
- Nobody thought Jesus’s miracles were important enough to record.
Evidence Allah Composed the Qur’an
The most convincing argument that Muslims have offered that their religion is valid is that most Arabic speakers consider Mohammed to be a poet in the Arabic language head and shoulders above all others. Therefore, he must have been taking divine dictation. They even claim that better poetry, if it ever written, will trump the Qur’an.
I can’t verify this since I don’t speak Arabic and I am not familiar with Arabic poetry. I have heard recitations from the Qur’an and they are unusually sonorous and haunting, so the claim is plausible. I accept the claim, even though I suspect Muslims can’t help but be biased evaluating the poetic skills of the founder.
On the other hand, Milton composed his verse as if taking dictation, just the way Mohammed did. Poems such as Paradise Lost could also conceivably have been interpreted as divine dictation. Shakespear is considered by most English speakers as head and shoulders above all other playwrights. However, that does not make him infallible. Islam makes extraordinary claims. It needs extraordinary evidence to back them, if they want to persuade me.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence for Christianity
Consider the evidence you would require to convince you that sasquatches exist. Surely you should require equal quality evidence to believe the Christian story. The Christian story is far more far-fetched. But then look at the crap Christians offer up analogous to:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- A book said sasquatches exist.
- I could not stand to live in a world without sasquatches.
- I feel deeply in my heart that sasquatches exist.
- A voice in my head told me sasquatches exist.
Evidence for Confabulation
According to scholars, the epistles were the first part of the New Testament written. They make no mention of Mary, Joseph, the nativity, the star, the wisemen, the disciples, Bethlehem, Nazareth or even the crucifixion, not even a passing reference. This suggests to me these details may have been added later.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence for a Demonic Deity
If you must have a deity, there is much more evidence for a demonic one than a loving one.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence For God
Christians make up the silliest excuses for why there is no evidence that Jehovah exists. The reason Jehovah gives you no evidence of his existence is the same reason unicorns do not. They do not exist. Like all the other religions, Jehovah is a work of human fiction. Why should Christianity be the only exception in the 60,000 religions of earth?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence for God
I have heard only one plausible, honest argument for god — the fine tuning argument. Christians almost never use it because they don’t understand it. It is generic. It works equally well for all religions. Scientists are the ones who came up with it. The rest of the arguments remind me of con games of the street people of New Orleans. Most of them are straw men claims about what science says. Oddly Christians can swallow talking snakes and talking donkeys, but have great trouble with the big bang, which is mathematically fairly well understood.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence for Jehovah
If you ask a Christian what evidence they have for the existence of Jehovah or why they think Jehovah is more likely to exist that any of the other 60,000 gods, the closest you will get to an answer is Sure as shootin’, your gonna roast in hayell. I am 120% sure of it. In other words, they have no evidence at all, but at the same time claim to be utterly sure they are right. To me that is as nuts as if they claimed with complete certainty there were purple whales with yellow polka dots wearing pink tutus swimming in the Bay of Fundy even though they had not even a photoshopped image to support this odd contention.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence for Life After Death
What is the evidence for life after death?
- Institutions take your money promising eternal life in return. Surely they would never dream of doing that if they could not deliver.
- Some people in the iron age wrote a book saying they believed it to be true. They obviously knew more about these matters than we do.
- People who have been clinically dead report having pleasurable (or sometimes terrible) visions, though not necessarily while they were dead.
- It is impossible to prove that nothing magical happens to your consciousness after death, so we are free to speculate and label those fancies revealed truth.
What is the evidence for death after life?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- People die. Their bodies invariably rot.
- All plants, animals and humans die. The components of their bodies are recycled. Recycling is the way of the universe, not eternal stagnation. Why would humans have a different after-death mechanism from all other biota?
- Almost no one claims to have memories of what it was like to non-exist (not have a body) before they were born.
- There is nothing in the natural world that behaves in the least like the religious promises.
- Wishful thinking for eternal youth or to be reunited with those who have died is a strong motivator to kid oneself that eternal life is a real possibility.
- There has been no substantiated communication with anyone who is dead. Surely they would want to communicate with those left behind and provide consistent information about what it like to be dead.
- Mediums have always proven to be frauds.
- We have discovered that near death visions are caused by excess concentrations of nitrous oxide N₂O in the blood, not by a preview trip to heaven or hell.
Evidence for Santa
Children have far more evidence for Santa than adults have for Jesus.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence god does not exist
- God is invisible and undetectable.
- God has no measurable effect on reality.
- There is no consensus on the nature of god.
- Prayer has no effect on reality.
- Christians have the same number of health problems, accidents and damage from acts of god as anyone else.
- There is no sign of compassion in nature.
- He is unnecessary. The universe runs by itself.
Evidence that god exists:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Many people have an extremely strong gut feeling he does exist. Oddly, mostly only those people who were fed the idea as infants have this feeling. [I have very strong feelings about avoiding being hit by an automobile, a notion my mother pounded into me as a toddler.]
- Ancestors back thousands of years accepted his existence without question. Different ancestors in different times worshipped different gods, though the notion of priest/shaman/god remained invariant.
- Surely science can’t explain complicated stuff like the existence of earth, Brad Pitt, Sandra Bullock and bacteria flagella, therefore an invisible man in the clouds named Jehovah must have done it, like a cosmic Geppetto. There are no other conceivable possibilities.
- Every other religion is flat out wrong and evil to boot. [The people who make this assertion carefully insulate themselves for reading any science or information about other religions.]
Evidence Jesus Was Not a Man
The Greek Philo of Alexandria wrote about 20 AD that some Jews believed in Jesus, a celestial saviour god, who was the son of God. This Jesus was not a man. This suggests that the stories of an earthly Jesus were composed to decorate this god, as was done with a dozen other deities of the time.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evidence of Massive Prayer Failure
Think of all the people in all the concentration camps in WWII. Surely they prayed and begged their god for deliverance. Yet they went to their deaths by the millions. I consider that evidence prayer does not work.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When you are debating with an atheist, they will often ask, What is your evidence for that? They are not demanding some mathematical formula or proof. All it means is Why do you think that is true? You can answer it by:
- Describing something you personally observed.
- Making a statement most people would agree is true that supports your contention.
- Giving the title and author of where you read it in book or video.
- Giving the academic credentials of the source.
- Repeating an argument you found convincing.
- You can say I fear a terrible thing will happen to me if I give up this belief and I believe that because…
- Explaining why, if it were not true, it would lead to some absurdity.
- You can say, That is what my parents taught me. I don’t know why they thought that way. If you are afraid of garter snakes, that is probably the most honest answer.
- You might not remember the reason. For example, my three sisters believed that squeezing the nose caused brain damage but could give no reasons why they thought that. I don’t remember could well be the honest answer.
- You could say, I know this superstition is almost certainly wrong, but consequences of ignoring the superstition are horrendous. I cannot take the chance. For example, I have met people who avoided stepping on sidewalk cracks, but could give no mechanism how stopping on a crack could affect their mother’s health.
You will not get very far if you say I just know in my heart even if it is the reason. That assertion does not produce any like emotion of certainty in their hearts. Some people assure you they are absolutely certain they are going to win a bet on a horse race, but in actuality have nothing more than a feeling of certainty, which can be extremely intense, but with nothing to back it, leading them to rash action. Convincing evidence would be something you know about the horses or the owners, or the race being fixed. The state of your brain hormones is irrelevant to anyone else.
Trusting intense feelings alone is like emotional reasoning: He is good because I love him very much. or He is wicked because I hate him. You might more rationally say I love him very much because he is good. or I hate him because he is wicked.
You will also not get very far if you say Everybody already agrees with what I said. The person who asked for evidence most likely does not agree, or they would not have asked for evidence. He is politely offering to change his mind, if you will but share the reasons for your thinking as you do, (or of course he is hoping to demonstrate to you that you hold your beliefs for invalid reasons and you probably should adopt ones more in sync with reality). In either case, he acting for your benefit. If you cannot offer any reasons, it would be rather foolish of him to abandon his current views which probably have some weak evidence backing them. Further, it would be rather foolish of you to hold onto such admittedly baseless ideas so fiercely.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are such evil bastards. The great irony, is they are completely unaware of it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the reasons Christianity is evil is it teaches your behaviour does not matter. All that matters is blind faith with all doubt erased.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Catholic church teaches South Saharan Africans that using condoms is extremely wicked. Why? They want the maximum number of babies to become new Catholics. The catch is millions of adults die each year in the region of HIV. If they are dead they cannot have babies or raise babies, so this makes no sense.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians try to pretend their god is all knowing, all powerful and perfectly good. However, that is incompatible with all the evil on earth. Zeus and friends don’t have this problem. The Greeks made no claim their gods were beneficent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What sort of things might an evil institution do?
- Lie to people.
- Trick people into giving them money with extravagant promises.
- Make people hand over their kids for molesting.
- Keep people away from any information exposing the institution.
- Make people feel deeply ashamed of minor crimes.
Does that sound familiar?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Even the nominally monotheistic religions all have their Satans and evil spirits. They are like snapping sheepdogs used to herd the gullible into the god belief trap by snapping at their heels. Even the rabidly monotheistic Islam has a menagerie of imaginary beings: Jann, Jinn, Shaitans, Ifrits and Marids.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The people most convinced that evolution is wrong have gone to extraordinary lengths to make sure they did not learn a single thing about it and also to stop their kids from doing so either. They must think it is probably right, but don’t want to be persuaded, or they would not be so afraid of learning about it. They want to be wrong!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evolution of the Belief in Life After Death
The Neanderthals covered the dead and red ocher and buried them. The Cro-Magnons included goods in the grave. I speculate the original purpose of the grave goods may have been just a way to show respect, similar to retiring the number of a hockey great. Later it would have evolved into the myth the goods could be used after death.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evolution of the Jesus Story
Christians never take into account that generation after generation of self-important Christians have been censoring and improving the information we have about time of Jesus.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evolution of Religion
Humans partake in two flavours of evolution, ordinary genetics and cultural evolution. Culturally, we have evolved religion. Why? Because it makes us better at warfare. (We don’t fear death. We are more ruthless with outsiders.) The warfare ability enhances our survival. Nobody said evolution is supposed to generate sweetness and light, just survivability.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Evolution of Religious Nonsense
Imagine a very primitive society. Somebody says What do you think happens to all the birds in winter? This is a totally novel question. Someone will come up with an answer very like what a child would come up with. It becomes the official best guess. Over time, it gains more and more prestige as the answer. Humans have a worship of past wisdom, for good reason. It worked. We survived believing it. It is foolhardy risking survival with untested new ideas. So that speculation gets stuck as absolute wisdom.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Evolution of Sacrifice
How did this god idea get such a foothold in man’s imagination? Possibly, long ago in Mexico, someone decided to leave some of the choicest kernels of primitive corn for the ancestor spirits by burying them. Over time this practice acted much like natural selection to improve the corn plant. Here is one of the extremely rare cases where a sacrifice actually did work reliably. It would seem quite plausible to a people without any understanding of genetics that the improved corn was a thank-you from some beneficent invisible entity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Exactly One God
There are only two honest positions on the matter of gods existing. Either you believe all 60,000 exist or you believe none exist. If you claim just one or some exist, then you need evidence to treat some gods differently. If you claim only one god exists, you also have to show it is not an undiscovered one. Nobody ever presents such evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Exaggerated Respect for Corpses
One of the oddest things about Christianity is its superstitions surrounding death. They treat the dead with greater respect than the living. The are far less likely to speak ill of the dead than the living. They are more likely to comply with the wishes of the dead than the living. They get more upset about desecration of a corpse than they do an attack on a living child. They consider rape of a corpse a more serious crime than rape of a living person. This is all part of their fantasy that dead people are not really dead. It is part of the play acting to keep up the pretense.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Exalting the Irrational Over the Rational
When a group claims they have a religious reason for being treated specially, what they mean is they don’t have a reason. They just have always done it that way and want to continue. For example, we indulge those who don’t want to wear protective headgear when riding a motorcycle, pharmacists to refuse customers who do not share their religious views or who refuse military service for religious reasons. Yet we do not indulge those who want the same exemptions for actual reasons, such a protective headgear makes them claustrophobic, they believe such some medicines to be harmful or who oppose killing people on the grounds it just leads to more killing. We exalt the irrational over the rational.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Exalting the Murdered
Isn’t it strange how only the nicest people are ever murdered.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Exception to Religious Freedom
If a person’s religious beliefs require him to kill me, or to kill nearly everyone on earth, I think it would be foolish of me to respect his right to practice his religion even if I generally subscribe to the notion of religious freedom. I think he should be treated like any other lunatic.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
There are all manner of Christian sects actively promoting nuclear war hoping it will mean lunch with Jesus. Watch the Max Frisch play The Firebugs: A Morality Without a Moral about a man who refused to take pay attention to the obvious signs his lodgers were arsonists. Even though these people are religiously motivated, they are still criminally insane and society should protect itself from them. We ignore them because of their numbers, but it is their numbers that make them so much more dangerous.
Exceptions to Discrimination Laws
The notion of religious exceptions to anti-discrimination laws, i.e. that religious people, such as Kim Davis, should get a get-out-of-jail-free card to exempt them from anti-discrimination laws, is absurd because nearly all discrimination is driven by religion. It would be equivalent to abandoning anti-discrimination laws altogether. Even non-religious discriminators could concoct some phony religious motivation for their discrimination and get off. Because the excuse is religious, it does not have to make sense.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excess Fear Of Death
Christians tie themselves in knots with fear of death. They make up lies to help themselves pretend it won’ happen to them. Think, without death evolution would be impossible. The only time there can be change is when one generation gives way to the next. Even if natural death were eliminated, there would still be accidents and illness. You would caught off guard, with death sneaking up on you. If we lived to 1000 years everyone would be old. It would be a very rare event to see a baby. Political views would be stuck as they were 1000 years ago.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excessive Morality Causes Violence
Christians imagine a lack of morality causes violence. The reverse is true. When someone feels someone else has not behaved up to their moral code is when they are most likely to take the law into their own hands and administer violent revenge. The problem is having too touchy a sense of morality.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excluding Atheist Rights
Christian bigots want to legally define religion in a way that excludes atheism, so that the constitutional freedom of speech, freedom from government suppression and equal treatment granted to religion will not also apply to atheism. They wish to suppress and censor atheism by defining it as hate speech. How could they define them?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- a baseless, irrational set of beliefs about an undetectable controller or controllers of the universe for which there is not a shred of evidence.
- hate speech
- publicly disagreeing with Christians on any matter. Failing to show sufficient deference to Christian beliefs.
My tongue is only partly in my cheek.
Why are Catholic priests so reluctant to permit women into the clergy and to allow priests to marry? Very simple. The Catholic clergy is the world’s largest pedophile ring. Why else would men promise never to marry or have sex with any adult for the rest of their lives? If they were allowed to marry, pedophile priests would be pressured into marriage and their wives would never put up with them molesting children. They want a closed club without whistle-blowers of either gender.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excuse For Atrocity
Once you are convinced you have god on your side, you are capable of any atrocity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excuse for Believing Transubstantiation
Originally Christians were burned alive for expressing doubt, even if they recanted, that the wine in communion literally changes into Jesus’s blood and the wafer into his corpse. The medieval Christians has the excuse of torture for believing this blithering nonsense. What’s yours?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excuse for Conning the Poor
Christian clergy excuse themselves for conning the poorest of the poor of their money by saying they give them hope of a better life in the hereafter. That is not a valid excuse. Secular con men too offer hope of a better life and do not deliver.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excuse to Procrastinate
Prayer is just an excuse for procrastination. It is a way of shoving responsibility for your own failure onto an imaginary god’s shoulders. It is the ultimate loser life philosophy. It is like jumping out of a plane with a pretend parachute.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excuses to Bully Others
If you enjoy being shocked, outraged, offended or insulted, you will enjoy fundamentalist Christianity or Islam. It will give you thousands of new excuses to force others to bend over backwards to placate your whims.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excusing Bad Behaviour
One of the primary functions of religion is to allow people to behave badly and feel profoundly virtuous about it. Obvious examples are the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials and the Jewish invasion of Palestine.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Excusing Christian Violence
If a modern cult advocated even a tenth the mayhem the Christians do, the ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) would send in bulldozers and flamethrowers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Exemptions Only For Irrational Reasons
In countries where voting is mandatory, there is a religious exemption. Oddly, you cannot be excluded for a reason but you can for a superstition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Existence Of A God Is Not the Same as Existence of Jehovah
Christians don’t understand the difference between evidence for a creator and evidence for the god Jehovah. Evidence for a creator is no more evidence for the god Jehovah myth than it is for the Pele myth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians tell us with a straight face that Moses wandered in the desert for 40 years with 2 million people. That is a crowd about the size of Houston Texas. Think how much food they would need every day, how much fuel, how much water, how much waste they would produce, how much sewage. Think of how many railway cars, trucks, planes and super markets are needed every day to serve modern Houston. They would have needed the low-tech equivalent in Moses’ day. The crowd was bigger than the most massive army of ancient times. They would have needed monumental supply lines. Yet archaeologists, despite a century of searching, have found absolutely nothing, not a skeleton, not a scrap of garbage, not a goat bone, not a button to mark their passing.
It is 209.21 km (130 miles) from Egypt to the promised land. Why did it take Moses 40 years? My dad trekked 80.47 km (50 miles) a day by horse. You would expect Moses to make at least 16.09 km (10 miles) per day. At that rate, Moses should have completed the journey in three weeks (or less) not 40 years. Most of the route is easy to follow along the coast. This is a tall tale.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Dr. William Morgan debunks Exodus among other things
It is 209.21 km (130 miles) from Egypt to the promised land. Why did it take Moses 40 years? At the time of Exodus, Egypt occupied the promised land. So Moses could not very well leave Egypt. There was not much point in seeking refuge there.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Pope updated exorcism rituals in 1999. Half of Americans tell pollsters they believe in a literal devil. 10% claim to have communicated with him. What a bunch of dingbats!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Expecting a Miracle
In the movie The Immigrant the preacher assures his Swedish-speaking flock that god will cause them all to speak English as soon as they land in America, so there is no need to study it. One teenage boy is skeptical and works to learn basic knowledge on the voyage. Of course, the entire group is dependent on the boy when they land. Christians hold the most preposterous notions about the infallible wisdom and knowledge they are supposed to automatically acquire, e.g. the exact age of the earth, merely from subscribing to the Christian myth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Expecting Respect From Other Religions
Every religion looks absurd to the adherents of other religions. Thus it is futile to expect adherents of other religions to show reverence for the holy figures and symbols of yours. Muslims imagine they are a special case and have the right to demand that everyone affect respect for Mohammed, the Qur’an and Allah.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Cuckoos lay their eggs in the nests of other birds for them to raise. Astonishingly cuckoos lay eggs that look almost identical to their hosts. Religion cannot in any way explain how this happens. Science can. Hint: in mammals females have XX chromosomes and males XY. In birds, females have XY chromosomes and males XX.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Explain the Unfairness
The world is incredibly unfair. It could not be that way if there were a just omnipotent god. The only explanation is there is no such god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When Christians talk to a child after someone has died, they invariably say things like: Your mother is alive; your mother has gone to a better place; your mother is never coming back; your mother is with Jesus. The child takes this lie to mean, mamma found me wanting. She abandoned me without saying anything, without even a phone call or a card. I don’t know what is the matter with me that she would do this. To the child, it is much like mom ran off with her lover Jesus and is refusing communication with the family.
Further, the child also builds up the expectation that if mum is alive, she could change her mind and come back. This makes closure impossible.
Christians tell these lies mindlessly without thinking of how much damage they are doing to the kids who take them literally.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Is it not an amazing co-incidence that the god Jehovah always agrees with 100% certainty with anything a preacher says. But then, how is it possible that preachers disagree with each other so violently? Does Jehovah change his mind every microsecond? Could it be possible the preachers are all lying, that they have no evidence at all that Jehovah agrees with them? But then, with a character of fiction, such as Jehovah, it is somewhat ill defined what his beliefs are.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Explaining vs Selling
When a Buddhist talks to me about Buddhism, I get the impression he is trying to explain something. When a Christian talks to me about Christianity, I get the impression he is trying to sell me something.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Exploiting Science for Evil
It is ironic that evangelists use the latest science to deceive and influence people to accept blithering nonsense, crank science and hand over their money.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine if the Mafia started a new extortion racket. They persuaded people they had implanted devices in their brains that let them monitor every thought. The demanded money and obedience. They said they had enforcers on earth, in hell and in heaven who would make them a misery for eternity if they did not play ball. They would also make people hand their children over for sexual favours. I wonder how many boobs they could con?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What if you heard about an organisation what was extorting people out of a tenth of their lifetime income, payable weekly. To enforce this, the organisation threatened to torture the person and their family. Would you consider these people criminals? What if I told you they also demanded you hand over your children for sexual abuse, including rape, what then? What if I told you these people pretended to be a benevolent organisation and called themselves the Catholic Church?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is an extortion racket. It is a Mafia protection racket in velvet gloves. The church says, Give us regular payments and do as we tell you in your every waking moment, or our enforcer will roast you alive for eternity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Three hundred years after the death of Jesus, there were about 50 gospels. Emperor Constantine pruned them down to the four we know today. Anyone possessing one of the other gospels was killed as a heretic.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is not that Christians refuse to provide extraordinary evidence for miracles, they can’t even provide any ordinary evidence. The evidence they provide is hearsay, passed anonymously through an unknown number of hands to be written down a century or so after the fact, then translated, copied and recopied by people editing, deleting and adding. You should not expect any higher fidelity than a rumour passed down a chain of the telephone party game. The resulting copies have tens of thousands of significant differences. For heaven sake, hearsay is not even admissible in traffic court.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
While it is true that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, that is not the problem with Christians. They don’t have any evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Face the Facts
You have two choices, face the facts of what is most realistically likely to happen to you, or clutch onto some religious fantasy where the future is magically rosy. The catch is most religious fantasies offer you poor odds. They assert it is much more likely a truly hideous fate awaits you.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Songhees aboriginal people who lived where I do for hundreds of years before the coming of the white man, used to carve wooden boxes without tops. The bottom had a circular hole. At low tide people would line the boxes up along the ocean, hole up and do their business. High tide would remove most of the feces. A special slave class had to clean the boxes.
You don’t believe me? What if I told you I was 110% sure? How dare you call me a liar! Of course, this is complete BS. This is the way Christians debate, but just making up facts out of thin air as they go.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
According to CatholicsComeHome.org, world wide, 70% of baptised Catholics do not practice the religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Think how many incorrect/superstitious beliefs shared by nearly everyone have already faded away: flat earth, witchcraft, ghosts, fairies, curses, the evil eye, amulets, earth is the center of the universe, demons, alchemy, telekinesis, penis enlargement pills, palm reading, breast enhancement creams, clairvoyance, salt spilling, telepathy…
To go: homeopathy, faith healing, miracles, supernaturally weeping statues, snake handling, angels, life after death, prayer, crystals, pyramid power, seances, Friday 13, dowsing, religion in general, saying gesundheit when someone sneezes, astrology… Wishful people makes people cling to nonsense, even when they know it is nonsense and can see no possible mechanism it could work.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religious people are willfully ignorant. They have no comprehension of the reality that the laws of the universe are very different on the very small and very large scale, or within a few million years of the big bang. Intuition simply fails. They imagine the entire cosmos has to behave the way it did last week in their back garden.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Failing Common Sense
When a Christian says, The universe could only have come into being by the agency of something outside the universe, something supernatural. what he really means is According to my common sense, according to my intuition of what is possible, the universe could only have come into being by the agency of something outside the universe, something supernatural.If he has studied relativity, he is aware of how the universe on large scale spits in the face of common sense. For example, a twin can become drastically older than his brother. Nothing can go faster than light. Things that go very fast get heavier. Yet we know this craziness is true because the world-wide GPS system depends on relativistic corrections to clocks.
If he has studied quantum mechanics, he is aware of how the universe on a small scale also spits in the face of common sense. An electron can teleport from place A to B without going through the space between. Particles can just pop into and out of existence. A photon can pass through two separate slots at once. Yet we know this insanity is true because computers depend on it.
If he has studied radioactivity, he is aware how radioactive decay can be predicted statistically, but individual decays (Geiger counter ticks) are completely random and causeless.
Christians, if your intuition is so utterly wrong about things we have already discovered here on earth, how dare you be so sure your intuition is valid in such extreme conditions as the beginning of the universe. You have not the first clue how it should behave, you arrogant twits. And most of you know that, but that does not stop you pretending you do. You are such dishonest shits.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fairies and Gods
If I have a conversation with a Christian and tell him I am quite sure there are no fairies. He will say I agree. If I say I am also quite sure Jehovah is a character of fiction. He will say But you cannot prove he does not exist. So what? I cannot prove fairies do not exist either. You cannot prove anything except in math, just show evidence. I am quite sure Jehovah does not exist for the same reason I think fairies do not exist — namely that I have never heard any evidence for their existence. Why should Jehovah be treated as a special case when it comes to determining existence?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fairies vs Angels
Christians assure me that with absolute certainly angels exist and fairies do not. I don’t see that such certainty is justified. A fairy is just a small angel and an angel is just a big fairy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
To be fair, if you want to evaluate the evidence for the existence of a historical Jesus, you should use the exact same criteria you use to determine the existence of any figure in any religion. You should not bend over backwards to give Jesus the benefit of the doubt.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
To the con man, the characteristic most desired in his marks is gullibility. Religious con men renamed it faith to make it sound more palatable. It means easily believing BS without evidence. It is a type of self-deception.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The enemy is not religion, but faith. Faith is absolute conviction in the untrue without evidence and counter to evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith is going to great effort to believe things that are patently untrue because someone convinced you it was the virtuous thing to do.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith is the refusal to consider evidence in deciding what to believe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Let’s say you saw some Somalian refugees who had a very hard life, yet did not get discouraged. You asked them how they managed to remain optimistic, and they told you it was their Muslim faith. Does this mean the tenets of their faith are true, or that pretending there is a cosmic helping hand is comforting?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith = Gullibility
Christians have a special word for gullibility to make it easier to sell as a virtue to their marks. They call it faith.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith and Gullibility
Every religion has a holy book. Christians tell us to ignore them all except theirs. They command us to believe only their book, without question. They give no reason why theirs alone is reliable. They can offer no corroborating evidence their book is true. They make dire threats if you persist in considering their book just a myth. Further, they have no plausible explanation for its many errors and inconsistencies, given that it is reputedly inerrant, authored by the creator of the universe. Christians call believing under duress without evidence faith. Everyone else calls it gullibility or sometimes abject capitulation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith and Gullibility
You need faith to believe it. That is just another way of saying You have to be gullible to believe it. Faith is believing something just because someone told you, without evidence. In normal life, gullible people are idiots. In religion, the con men have tricked the marks into thinking gullibility is a virtue.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith is Arrogant
Faith is necessarily arrogant. If you pretend you just know without evidence, that is like claiming to be omniscient.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Faith Con
Con men don’t want you to look too deeply. They will give you every excuse in the book to avoid letting you check up on them. Hint. All professional Christians are con men. They try to make gullibility into a virtue by calling it faith.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
How about practicing on rats first.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith Healing = No Healing
Faith healing means denying medical care. It is a religiously-motivated form of torture.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith in Falsehood
Christians often tell me that even if Christianity were not literally true, they would try very hard to believe it. It makes them feel good. I find this attitude odd. I can’t think of any other sphere but religion where people extol being wrong. Drugs also make you feel good, but that alone is not sufficient reason to embrace them.
Christians imagine that their faith makes them behave better, but by any objective measure, they behave worse than non-believers. Why would this be?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- The bible teaches people to kill and torment others such as gays, non-virgin brides, non-Christians, black people, Sunday gardeners…
- Christians believe that a bit of ecclesiastic magic and a donation undoes the harm of any sin. The usual remorse acting to check bad behaviour is short-circuited.
- Christians believe they will live forever. Naturally, they procrastinate anything necessary to look after planet earth or their fellows.
- Because they are under the delusion they have an exclusive hold on absolute truth, they are insufferably smug. They would be unbearable, even if they were right. Not only are they dead wrong, they claim to be 100% right, without any reason.
Faith in Falsehood
The most pathetic Christians are those who, when they discover that something they believed as part of their religious faith is completely and utterly false, pray for the faith to continue believing it as true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith in Jehovah vs Zeus
Christians admit they have no evidence that the god Jehovah exists. They take it on faith. They have no evidence Zeus exists either. Why not take Zeus on faith?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith Required to Assemble
Marius Forté is a Christian salesman. He says, that you have to believe in Jehovah first, or he will for all purposes not exist. Let’s say this is true. Presumably people like Mr. Forté were able to suspend disbelieve and start receiving messages from Jehovah. How does he know the source of these messages? Consider that George W. Bush attacked Iraq, allegedly at Jesus’s urging. Many people, myself included, are doubtful about the source of the voices in Bush’s head. I am similarly doubtful about Forté’s voices. If his claim were true, Forté could show us some consequence of these messages or at least share the text of them to see if there were sufficiently wise and divine to be from Jehovah. He cannot. If his claim were true, Forté would be transformed in some way for the better, but he was not. He is a remarkably rude and obnoxious bully.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith as Skill
First, Christians tell me the scientists are mistaken and that primitive tribespeople were right all along in that the universe is actually micromanaged at the whim of invisible intelligent beings.
Then they have the cheek to insist that the alleged master controller of the universe is infinitely kind and merciful. Have they never been nauseous? Have they never had diarrhea? Have they never been seriously ill? Have they never had a toothache? Have they failed to notice that animals are compelled to eat each other?
And to top it off, they allege all manner of impossible and absurd miracles for which there is no evidence at all, such as the story of Noah’s ark and the flood.
They treat the ability to pretend to believe all this nonsense, faith, as a sort of skill, like juggling, that I ought to develop.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faith, Virtue or Vice
Is faith a virtue or a vice? Faith in hard work and study at university is clearly a Good Thing™ However, faith that a slot machine must soon pay off is not. Faith in being rescued from a boating accident is a Good Thing™, even when the odds are slim because it encourages people to persist in life-sustaining behaviour.
Faith that Jesus will come and restore all the denuded forests is a dangerous delusion because it encourages Christians to abandon stewardship of the forests. Faith in an afterlife, for which there is no evidence, encourages people to neglect the real one. Faith in clergy leads people to hand their children over to them to be molested, ignoring all the danger signs. Faith in TV evangelists leads people to hand over their life savings to these charlatans pretending to be god’s accountants.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Deliver Us from Evil
To atheists, people who profess faith in Jesus are like adults who put out a stocking and expect Santa Claus to fill it. If they will believe something that nuts, you really cannot trust them with anything.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Faithful Are Cruel and Stupid
Those who praise the Haitians for their faith in God are cruel and stupid. Any supposed God thoroughly abandoned the Haitians. It would be foolhardy for Haitians to put any more trust in him. Further faith in God is what caused the troubles in the first place. The Haitians trusted a totally indifferent God rather than sound engineering to protect them from earthquakes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Believers often claim they could not cope with life without the crutch/lie of religion. They have never tried. What kind of a crutch is it that you know deep down is fake? Imagine using a fake crutch when you break your leg.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
We know that Jesus looked like a typical modern day Palestinian — short and swarthy. Yet Christians portray him as a Swede, with piecing blue eyes and milk-white skin. If Christians will lie even about that, how can you expect them to tell the truth about anything else?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
J. P. Barnum used fake mermaids to draw in the crowds; churches use fake miracles. The crowds would not come without the lies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
How many Christians are properly aware that when they go to see a movie about miracles, every last one of them was faked with Hollywood technology.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Prayer is like those fake screensavers that employees can rapidly flip on to fool the boss they have been working. Prayer appeals to the laziness in humanity. To others it looks plausible you are doing something useful, but you are doing something pointless, but approximately as easy as resting in a chair.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faking Divine Approval
In theism, God does not define the morality. A small number of people who found the religion define it. It does not fall out of the sky on titanium plates. Ordinary humans write it down and con others to believe a god wrote it. These founders have enormous weight. They can influence thinking about morality for thousands of years. People are terrified to update their thinking or augment it because they fear divine retribution. That is primarily why Christianity has become so evil. It is extremely out of date.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Faking Divine Favour
When I was young and handsome, I once attended a group of plump middle aged women who claimed they could communicate with the dead. They competed for my attention by pretending ghosts were pinching them. Christians do the same thing to impress each other by pretending God gave them private messages, when all that really happened is they heard a commanding voice inside their head, much like the nagging internal voice of a parent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians will often believe any nonsense written in King James English. The famous fraudster Joseph Smith discovered if you put eth on the end of each word, the gullible will swallow it as absolute truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Parents go to considerable lengths to counterfeit evidence for the existence of Santa Claus, e.g.
- empty stockings that magically fill with treats
- the miracle of the disappearing cookies
- sightings in apartment stores
- sleigh tracking by NORAD (North American Aerospace Defence Command)
It is a wonder that after being taken in by Santa Claus that kids ever fall for Jesus. There is no evidence at all for Jesus and no presents to sweeten the pot.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Falling For Faint Promises
When you reach a certain age, you are faced with grim facts: you will probably experience more and more pain, you will have less and less energy and you are never again going to have sex with people who look like porn stars. No wonder people succumb to empty promises of afterlife bliss from the Christians and Muslims even if they may think there is only a one in a trillion chance they are true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Falling Prey To Religious Superstition
The way people so easily fall prey to religious superstition makes me ashamed to be a human.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
False Alarm Holy Spirit Visitations
The instant someone mistakes a pleasant bodily feeling as the holy spirit giving specific instruction, they are well on their way to madness.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Feeling certain is not the same thing as having evidence. People can feel certain even about how dice will come up.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
False Christian Pride
Christians who imagine they are automatically morally superior to non-Christians need only consider public figures who profess to be Christian and look how they behave.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are often patronising, claiming that only they have the refined sensibilities to appreciate something so esoteric as god. We atheists are not disputing claims of esoteric experiences, just with false claims Christians make about science, such as the age of the earth and whether a supernatural being will correct the problems of global warming.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
False memories are just as vivid and believable as real ones because all memories are reconstructed from the bare outlines.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christine O’Donnell, the Tea Party/Republican candidate for the Senate in Delaware in 2010, is a typical hypocritical Christian. She suffers from scrupulosity in sex. She organised a group called SALT (Strategic Arms Limitation Talks) to promote virginity and to suppress masturbation, then she improperly used campaign contributions for her rent and other personal expenses and stiffed her campaign workers their agreed wages. She is delusional. She imagines herself much more moral than average.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Asking What is the purpose of the universe is bit like picking up a rounded rock by a river and asking What tool was this rock shaped to be? You are erroneously presuming that some intelligence deliberately shaped it. Just the mindless erosion of the river water rounded it, with no intent to use it for some purpose once it was sufficiently spherical.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When is it proper to give reassurance when you have no idea yourself how things will turn out?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians imagine they are superior to everyone else because they are divinely ordered around.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A traditional society uses carrots and sticks to ensure its members act in ways that help that society to flourish. However, in North America, corporations have usurped this function for the goal of increasing profit. They teach that disposable is cool, and conspicuous waste is how to prove your worth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Familiarity Breeds Contempt
If chunks of the universe had a habit of winking out every once in a while the reappearing some time later, the religiously minded and the lay folk would not be fascinated by the big bang. The reason they consider it so magical is that, so far as we know, it happened only once. Such uniqueness demands fanfare and gods to celebrate it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Minotaurs, satyrs, centaurs, fairies, trolls, leprechauns, unicorns, Pegasus, the Gorgon Medusa, gods… It is so utterly preposterous that grown men still debate the existence of such obviously fanciful creatures, for which there is no evidence.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fat Gospel Singers
Why does God smite almost all gospel singers with gross obesity? You’d think people who performed such athletic music would be unusually trim.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When someone claims that some dreadful circumstance is their fate, what they are actually saying is Some all-powerful sky god has it in for me, so there is no use struggling. This is a terrible delusion that makes people needlessly give up.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fate of a Child
About the only fate worse for a child than being born to drug addicts is to be born to fundamentalists. Not only are they abused, they become abusers.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Father of the Antichrist
John Nelson Darby (born:1800-11-18 died:1880-04-09 at age:79) was a British evangelist who invented the Antichrist myth. He is one of those people Shakespear meant of when he said The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred with their bones.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Favouritism to Fruitcakes
Constitutional freedom of religion gives special privilege to irrational religious people. There are all manner of laws that do not apply to members of particular religious sects, e.g. that you must have a photographic driver’s licence to drive, or that you may not carry a knife. Yet rational people must comply with them. This is unfair favouritism to the fruitcakes. The whole notion of religious exceptions to law is a sham since anyone can claim to believe any nonsense necessary to challenge a law they don’t want to obey. It should work this way. If a fruitcake religious person gets a special right, everyone gets it, even if they don’t care to use it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear of Christians
One of my boyfriends, a Philippino, was so afraid of Christians he insisted on walking seven paces behind me whenever we were in public. He did not want them assuming we were a couple and causing trouble.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear Of Christians
Though Darwin had formulated his theory of evolution by natural selection by 1837, because of his fear of Christians, he procrastinated publishing it until 22 years later in 1859 in The Origin of Species. Even as it was, they mercilessly personally attacked him.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear of Death
Fear of death is a manufactured by religion. It is a childish fear of some sadistic deity. If you have ever had an operation under general anesthesia, you know what being dead is like. It is nothing, no experience of any kind, not even dreams. It is not in the least scary or unpleasant. What is scary is dying, surrounded by people whose religious beliefs insist they keep you alive and in extreme pain.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear of Death
I was raised atheist. I had no trouble with fear of death. I don’t like growing old. I don’t like not having time to accomplish everything I planned. The thought of Christians forcefully keeping me barely alive for years with tubes up my nose is horrifying, but being dead is not in the least scary. The only thing fearful about death for some people is the threat of a vindictive cruel god waiting for them to punish them for masturbating or breaking one of his other idiotic rules. I have already been dead, both before I was born and on the operating table. Nothing happened, not even a sense of the passage of time. The only things it makes sense to fear must happen when you are alive.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear of God vs Fear of Christians
I am no more afraid of Jehovah the god than the cookie monster. Christians, on the other hand, are scary. They are succeeding in destroying the planet with their prideful ignorance.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear of Gods
Putting the fear of gods into a child is as reprehensible as deliberately instilling a phobia of monsters under the bed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear of the Image
One the ten commandments concerns graven images. Literally this would forbid all created images and statues. Islam takes this commandment quite seriously. They forbid all representational art. They allow geometric art and sometimes flower designs. Modern Muslims are particularly scrupulous about avoiding depicting the prophet Mohammed. Christians interpret graven image to mean only the worship of wooden idols, which nobody particular wants to do anyway. Why did the ancients make up such a commandment and treat it as so important? Think of a painting. It necessarily is only an approximation to the person it is supposed to represent. People seeing it treat the image as if they were seeing the original person. The facsimile becomes their idea of how that person actually looked. Leonardo’s graven image of the Mona Lisa has long ago superseded any reality of what she actually looked like. The ancients may have feared this power to distort and wanted to curb it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fear of Metric
The USA and Belize are the only two counties still using Imperial measure. Why? American Christians have a superstitious fear of metric based on the fact it was devised by French atheists.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fearing for Atheists
What the god-besotted are saying is Given that god exists and is such a bastard, anyone would be nuts to tease him by saying he does not exist.
But of course, atheists don’t look at it that way. They are sure there is no god. They are surer there is no god than they are sure Emperor Palpatine (of Star Wars) is a fictitious character. Christians are acting like nitwits, slavishly following the dictates of a villain of fiction. Christians live in a world terrified of Emperor Palpatine.
The Christians do not understand they have no reasons at all to believe in this god. The only reasons they believe anyway is peer pressure and childhood brainwashing with threats of torture.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fearing a Good Thing™
The dangers that cause people to go into a blind panic are usually not dangerous at all, e.g. tarantulas. Christians strongly fear a lack of an afterlife or lack of a punishing god. If they could relax and examine these fears rationally, they would realise acknowledging these actualities is liberating.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fearing No God
Christians tell me they find the idea of a universe without a god terrifying. This makes no sense. A universe with a god tortures all but 144,000 male virgins for eternity. A universe with a god meddles in the expected unfolding of events. A universe without a god is straight forward. It is not treacherous or sadistic.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Feeling Bad About Dying
The main reason someone would feel bad about dying is that they have not got much accomplished in their life. Christians waste their lives on pointless activities. No wonder they are so afraid of dying and cling to false promises of extensions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians often tell me that god appeared personally to them. When I probe, what they mean is they felt an intense, pleasant, warm, squishy feeling in their chest. But that is not god. God creates universes. God answers prayers. God knows everything. God is beyond time and space. That was just a warm squishy feeling.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Religions protect themselves from critical examination by teaching their adherents to affect massive offense when anyone even asks what the evidence is for some religious belief.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Humans were once prey animals. Our sense of morality is based on that. Before we humans commit any atrocity, we ritually claim we are a victim. It takes on ridiculous proportions e.g in Iraq where the USA claims it is defending itself from invasion. Sometimes a nation will even put on the charade of a false flag attack on itself to claim the virtue of victimhood.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a group of people at a public meeting reverently mash up bananas and pack them into their ears and nostrils, am I obligated to pretend to take this seriously out of respect for these loons’ beliefs? I think not. Similarly I don’t see why I have to feign respect when Christians with pained expressions of reverence and lowered eyes petition the sky god to bend the laws of causality with a magic incantation. Christianity is just as silly as the banana mashers and far more malevolent.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What is revolting about Christians is they defend the practice of female circumcision in the religion of Islam not the children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fictional Birth Places
Superman was raised on Krypton and Jesus in Nazareth. It turns out both were fictional places. Archaeologists discovered there was no town of Nazareth, much less a synagogue, in the time of Jesus.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Nazareth myth
If Christians are going to force their propaganda down our throats for the entire month of December every year, I think it is perfectly fair to dedicate the month to exposing what bullshit it all is.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Since bullying happens when adults are absent, the #1 thing you can do to stop bullying is to teach kids they have a moral duty to join forces to defend a victim. Even a reprimand from a third party is usually enough to stop a bullying event.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Beating up gays, treating women as second class citizens, raping children, female genital mutilation… are all evils. We should oppose them no matter what the motivations of those who promote them. Religion is just another name for ignorant tradition. It is the least valid of reasons to justify cruelty.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Finding Noah’s Ark
Claiming to have found a splinter of Noah’s ark is as silly as claiming to have found Paul Bunyan’s blue ox, Babe’s collar or Thor’s hammer.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What if we find a group of planets that have intelligent life sharing a language philosophy/religion. Our claims that the entire universe was created purely for man’s delectation will seem utterly mad.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Fine Tuning Argument
The fine tuning argument (that various universal constants, if different would have generated a universe that does not sustain life) is one of the most persuasive arguments the believers have ever used. The argument came from science. The latest multiverse thinking is ours is only one of impossibly many universes. Ours just fluked out with constants for our form of life. Other values might have generated other forms of life. Nearly all other universes do not have life.
Further our universe is not perfect. Only a tiny fraction of our universe supports life. Most of it is near absolute zero vacuum. If it were designed for life by an omnipotent god it would be a much better fit. Many Christians assert there is no life but on one planet in trillions of galaxies and planets, hardly fine tuned for life. There are many other technical arguments against the fine tuning argument. Scientists don’t take it seriously.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning: Why the Universe Is Not Designed for Us
Sir Isaac Newton asserted that believing in the trinity violated the first commandment. Jesus could not be equal to god. Christians ignore the first commandment when they worship saints, Mary, Jesus, angels…~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The first life on earth got started about a billion years after the earth formed. From a astronomical point of view, this is almost instantaneously after the earth cooled sufficiently. Abiogenesis was no big deal. Christians have no problem believing life appeared in all its forms on the same day the earth formed, but they are certain the scenario gleaned from looking at the data must be impossible. How would a science-allergic Christian have the remotest idea how long it should take? All they ever do is blindly quote an ancient book written by ignorant desert dwellers, an extremely crude forgery of the work of the creator of the universe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fishy Partial God
There is something not right about a god of the universe presenting himself as a member of a particular tribe and pulling divine strings for that tribe to the detriment of its neighbours. I would expect a god of the universe to be more universal and impartial.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are not supposed to worship idols, but they do it all their time in their reverence for flags. Americans have many laws commanding respect for flags as if they were religious leaders, including giving them burials.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Flavours of Con Artist
Funeral directors, used car salesmen, faith healers, sellers of weight loss potions, politicians, sellers of hair restoration potions, preachers… What do these have in common? They are all commonly con artists, but rarely prosecuted.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Flavours of Lies
There are four kinds of lies:
- withholding crucial information
- outright lying
- passing off rumour or unsubstantiated information as certainty
Nearly all of what the church says is a type (4) lie. So there is no such thing as good and bad religion. It is all bad. It is still lies. All churches attempt to delude their followers. They attempt to make them crazy by believing things that plain are not true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Flaw in Christianity
Christianity has only one really serious flaw — none of it is true.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fleecing the Flocks
American preachers lie to their flocks who have lost their jobs or their homes telling them that god will provide new jobs and homes if they but have faith (i.e. continue to tithe). This holds down the gullible as passive patsies for manipulation by Republican plutocrats and Christian con men. The flock sit with their thumbs in their orifices waiting like sloths for a god who never does anything.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Flipping the Bird
If you are an atheist, and a Christian says to you I’ll pray for you., this is the Christian way of flipping you the bird.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
One of the most common Christian metaphors is the shepherd and sheep. Christians here are being usually candid. Shepherds shear, slaughter and eat their sheep.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Focusing On the Flukes
The world seems more amazing that it actually is because we love to endlessly retell stories of how the factors lined up to allow one person to rescue another from a dangerous situation. We never talk about the failures, when there was nobody around to help, nobody around who knew what to do, nobody who could stay calm enough to act rationally or when all the best efforts simply failed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Folly of Leaving it up to God
When it really matters, getting food, putting a roof over your head, looking after your kids, you know perfectly well leaving it up to god would be a disaster. You have to do the work yourself. So when it really matters, you use logic and self-reliance, not god. So why do you use god for anything?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Folly of Prayer
If Jehovah is billions of times more powerful and wise than a human, is not praying to him, just as pointless as an ant praying to a human, demanding it destroy her enemies, monitor the morality of her actions, arrange for her afterlife and give her personal instruction?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fooled by Hypnosis
People without knowledge of hypnosis, altered states and trance induction are liable to mistake them for the holy spirit if they encounter in them a religious context.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Foolishness of Ancient Ethics
Alain Boton suggests even atheists should borrow a ethical system from some existing religion, even if you reject its supernatural claims, such as the existence of an avenging deity. This is not a good idea. These systems of ethics were created thousands of years ago and were frozen in amber. They are guaranteed to be rife with superstition and to be out of date and incomplete. They cause people to adopt narrow loyalties and to flatter themselves the most important creatures in the universe. You are better off to read more modern thinkers. On the other hand, it would be reasonable to borrow music or ceremonies and modify them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Foolishness Of Expecting God To Act
Trusting in a god is like refusing to vote then complaining when your candidate loses.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Foolishness of Relying on Miracles
The notion that Jehovah the god can be counted on with absolute certainty to provide via miracle is perhaps the most absurd notion ever put forward by a religion. There are no instances of this happening anywhere in history, only in unsubstantiated myths.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
For Religious Reasons
Claiming you do things for religious reasons is an oxymoron. It is just another way of saying I don’t have a reason. This is simply the way my people have always done it.. Religious arguments are irrelevant in making group decisions other than within a church.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
For Whose Benefit Are Funerals?
Funerals should cater to the desires of those left behind, not the frustrated theatrical urges of the deceased.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Forced to Respect The Volcano God
I wish I could make Christians understand that when they force non-believers to respect their religion, they are just as obnoxious as cannibals demanding others prostrate themselves before the volcano god. That respect includes deferring to Christians on all matters of morality, sexuality, public prayers and legal ceremonies. Their religion has no more validity than any other. It actually has negative validity since in it easy to prove most Christian assertions false.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Forcing Children to Pray
How cruel to force children to pray for terminally ill relatives, as if it could possibly do any use. When the relatives die, the children take on the guilt imagining they prayed incompetently.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Forcing People to Lie
Religionists claim their religion must be subsidised by the state because it encourages morality, e.g. telling the truth. However, particularly Muslims and Christians, keep getting civil laws enacted that require people to lie — namely pretend to respect religion or pretend to believe its deity exists, or pretend to agree with its dogmas. For example, in Boston it is illegal to put up a poster saying Religions are fairy tales for adults.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) source
Forcing Rape Victims to Bear Children
When Christians force raped children to bear children, their interest is not the unborn child. Their concern is increasing the number of contributors in the congregation. How do you know? They fight condoms, contraception and the morning after pill with just as much vehemence as abortion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Forcing Religion on a Child
If I had a son, I would not saddle him with a name like Abdullah, Zeus, Thor, Krishna, Michael, Jacob or John pegged him as a member of some ancient superstition. In a free world, one of the rites of passage would be selecting a religion or life philosophy, without bullying from parents, schools or the government. It is abuse to force a religion on a child when they are too weak to notice the lies in what they are being told.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Forcing Religion on Children
It is not a good idea to sign up for a religion that will kill you or make your life incredibly miserable if you leave, e.g. Islam or Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is high handed and evil to sign up a child for such without informed consent.
I think is it child abuse to sign a child up for a religion that traumatises them with threats that they and their family will be tortured for eternity by a god they are compelled to pretend to love.
I think it is wrong to teach a child lies for their own good.
Religions would go extinct if they did not force themselves on children before they were old enough to realise what batshit nonsense it all was.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Forcing Religious Superstitions on Others
Jews don’t force their dietary kosher laws on others. Muslims don’t force their dietary halal laws on others. Where do Christians get off on thinking they have the right to force their religious laws about sex on others? Religious laws apply only to people who subscribe to the religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Forcing Women To Bear Children Of Rape
Right wing Christians in the USA are trying to force women who have been raped to bear the child. Think for a second about the practical consequences of that for the child:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Knowing they were the product of rape.
- Their mother shudders every time she look on his face because he reminds her of the rapist.
- He bears the genes of a rapist. He could well become one too.
- Strangers will look on him as a rapist in training.
- He will feel hated and shunned through no crime of his own.
Catholics glibly forgive the church any crimes it committed the past. Yet they still cling to the delusions that motivated those crimes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is time the Catholic church made a formal apology and token restitution for torturing 60,000 women to death as witches or for using herbs to help people restore their health.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Former Slave Owners
If there in anything to reincarnation, then former slave owners who could not kick the habit are now living as pimps, child brothel owners, child soldier recruiters, executives who have their products manufactured in third world sweat shops, cattle, chicken and pig factory farmers…~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Foundation of Religion
Centuries ago in a mountain village in Japan lived a man with OCD. The idea of two identical objects he found abhorrent. There must be a way to easily tell them apart he preached. He would break into people’s homes when they were away and would put unique markings on their rice bowls and sake cups. Despite his mental handicap, he was rich and high status. When he died, the people kept applying the unique markings, as a sign of respect. The custom evolved. It was not enough to simply paint markings on, they had to be fired into the porcelain so they could not rub off. Later it became illegal to harbour two identical objects as this was an affront to god. This story is not true, but it illustrates how people with mental problems could be instrumental in getting goofy religious ideas started.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Founded on Abraham
The three religions of the book, Judaism, Christianity and Islam all trace their lineage to Abraham, a man who was a dangerous psychotic. No wonder no much insanity and violence has come from these three religions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Founding of a New Church
Anthropologists might decide that 2011-05-26 marked the founding of the Church Of Oprah when Oprah delivered her Whisperings sutra.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Founding A New Religion
Let’s say you wanted to get obscenely rich and decided to do it the L. Ron Hubbard way, by founding a new religion. What are some of the tried and true tactics?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- Target a small initial group. Tell them they are special, the deity’s chosen people and that they have holy legal title to some extremely large chunk of real estate, currently occupied by some rival group.
- Tell the recruits though rape of virgins is normally not recommended, it is commanded if the victims are not adherents of the new religion.
- Tell the recruits that sexual urges, masturbation, even sex within marriage for pleasure are exceedingly wicked and will be severely punished after death. Guilt makes them easy to manipulate.
- Tell the recruits them that killing people who are not adherents to the new religion is a virtue. They can then take revenge on pretty well anyone for petty reasons guilt free.
- Tell them they must pay a tax, 10% of income is traditional, for god, actually a management fee for you. Tell them that failing to pay will result in after-death torture and paying extra will be rewarded with after-death extravagant sensory delights.
- Tell them that plundering the property of non-believers is mandatory.
- Torture anyone who questions or contradicts you. Do not wait for their death.
- These ideas were all borrowed from existing religions, particularly Zionism, Christianity and Islam. Borrow other ideas freely.
Founding a Religion
Founding a new religion is like creating a new dance craze. You have to convince millions of people to do meaningless things. Only when you sell a religion, you have to talk your dancers into endless repetition of your rituals for generations to come.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Founding White Lie
Christianity started innocently enough, as a white lie. Someone was inconsolable at the death of a loved one or pet and someone else decided to soften the blow with an undetectable lie that the loved one was actually alive somewhere else and that they would eventually be reunited.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Francis of Assisi
In Franco Zeffirelli’s film Brother Sun, Sister Moon, Saint Francis of Assisi berates the pope for his obsession with amassing gold. We could use a modern day Saint Francis to chide Pope Ratzinger.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Obama appointed a Christian, Francis Collins as head of the Nation Institute of Health. Collins has written that he believes god inserted morality into humanity some time after it split off from the chimpanzees and bonobos. That delusion means he cannot rationally decide which research projects about human behaviour to fund. He has already decided, without evidence, that human behaviour does not have natural causes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Billy Graham’s son, Franklin runs a fraudulent aid organisation called the Samaritan’s purse. They took government money to Haiti after the earthquake, however, they refused any help unless the victims attended their church services. They used government money to sell their crooked church. And Republican Christians stand and applaud.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Franklin Graham on Who Is A Christian
Franklin Graham claims that Barack Obama is a Muslim because his father was a Muslim, even though Obama attends a Christian church. If that is so, all those millions of people his father Billy Graham converted to Christianity are not Christians either because their fathers were not Christian.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fraternal Order Of Giant Sloths
Let’s say you belonged to the Fraternal Order of Giant Sloths (I hope a fictitious organisation.) It later came to your attention that the main activity of the entire executive, at all levels, was running a global child molestation ring. Why might you resign?
- You don’t want to support molestation.
- You don’t want people thinking you are a child molester.
Why might you continue to belong?
- You are hoping the executive will let you join in.
- They have some way of hurting you if you quit.
- Nearly all your friends are Giant Sloths. You are not about to give up your social life. It is not as though they are involved in any way in the molesting, at least as far as you know. They might keep quiet about it, but that is not the same thing as participating or pimping their children. Further, what the executive does is none of your business.
- Can you think of anything else?
I would expect the Fraternal Order of Giant Sloths to suffer a mass exodus. Then why doesn’t the Catholic Church?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
It is fraud to falsely promise extravagant goodies. It is extortion to threaten torture — unless you do it wearing a clerical collar.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Under the guise of offering unbiased information to young pregnant women on the pro and cons of their various options, Christian organisations bully those coming to them for advice into complying with the group’s religious doctrines. These groups are immune from prosecution for fraud.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If the homeopaths were right, then all water has at some concentration been exposed in past to every conceivable thing, including, Queen Elizabeth urine, bat ear wax, birth control pills, dog feces, plutonium… So ordinary tap water already contains every conceivable medicine (and poison) in dangerously potent low concentrations. Read Hans Christian Andersen’s The Emperor’s New Clothes.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The most important free speech is that which Christians or Muslims find offensive.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Free Speech Allows Contradiction
Christians have the right to say hateful, foolish and untrue things, however, they don’t have the right to say them unchallenged or in places where they were not invited, such as funerals. Christians don’t allow just anyone to speak in their churches, so it would be hypocritical for them to expect the right to speak wherever they please.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
I think free will is an illusion, like the free will of actors in a movie who do the exact same things every time you play a DVD (Digital Video Disc) and who appear to be suffering from no constraint on their choices. Perhaps, more accurately, I think it will turn out to be a meaningless question. It is based on naïve assumptions about how choice works.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom From Religion
Freedom from religion means the state, or anyone else, cannot force someone else’s religion down your throat. They cannot force you to say their prayers. It is an important freedom both for believers and atheists. People who do not believe in freedom have tricked gullible Christians into thinking freedom from religion means the right to persecute Christians to stop them from forcing Christianity down unwilling throats.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom Includes Freedom to Abuse?
In general, we believe everyone should have freedom of religion. But what happens when abuse of children is intrinsic to that religion, especially when they reach out to abuse other people’s children. The abuse includes sexual exploitation, beatings, denying health care in favour of prayer and terrifying with hellfire if they don’t subscribe to a particular religion.
In particular, fundamentalists insert Good News Clubs into the schools, pretending to the children their sadistic teachings are part of the school curriculum. They are taught it is sinful not to commit genocide if Jehovah so commands it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Religious Child Abuse
Freedom to Lie
Freedom of religion is basically the freedom to tell a special class of lies. We prefer it to warfare between religious sects. Because the lies are labelled as religious beliefs, we can more easily dismiss them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom To Pray Is Never in Danger
Fundamentalists have been so intent on forcing others to pray, they have forgotten that the constitution protects their own right to pray wherever they please.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom of Religion
Freedom of religion is an astounding right. It lets you believe crazy things, even serve as a judge or a president and be batshit whacko, yet face no consequences so long as enough other people share your delusions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom Of Religion
Freedom of religion should ensure you can do anything others of other religions can do. However, it should not give you special privileges that no one else gets. So, for example, if you allow women of some religions to cover their heads, then you should permit all women to cover their heads, for any reason. If you allow Sikhs to wear a small ceremonial dagger, then you must allow all people to wear a small dagger. If you are not willing to allow everyone that privilege, then you should not permit it just to Sikhs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom of Religion
Granted, many Christians think freedom of religion means freedom to worship Jesus in any way you choose, but most North Americans and Europeans believe every human has a right to freedom of religion, except if they live in Africa or the middle east. They then imagine supporting oppressive religions is the best way to express their liberalism.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom of Religion
I think freedom of religion should include:
- Right to say that a religion’s tenets are false, even ridiculous.
- Right to say that the religion is malformed because it makes people do foolish or evil things.
- Right to refuse to bow or make other signs of respect to the religion’s leaders and symbols.
It should not include the right to call for violence against believers or denying them civil rights such as marriage, the right to vote, the right to adopt children etc. It should not give believers the right to deny any group civil rights on religious grounds.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom Of Religion
If I as an atheist father allow my daughter to die from lack of treatment, that is a crime — failing to care for my child. Just because I am a Christian or have some nutty motivation for that same crime should not excuse me. Religion should not give you special privileges that others do not enjoy. It merely should make sure you get all the privileges others enjoy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom of Religion
Most Christians are thoroughly confused about what freedom of religion means.
- The government may not interfere with their worship.
- Other people may not interfere with their worship.
- Christian rules apply only to Christians. They have no power over non-Christians.
- Christians may not force their religion on others.
- Christians may not harm or discriminate against others even if their religion requires it.
The basic idea is all religions are treated equally. Christians get in trouble when they insists their religion be given special privilege. They forget that everyone is convinced they represent the one true religion.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Freedom Of Religion is a Truce
Imagine a several mutually-hating gangs of criminal psychopaths took over an asylum and held hostages. The police negotiated a truce. That is roughly what freedom of religion is. We tolerate untreated mental illness when the delusional patients have banded together in sufficiently large numbers to be dangerous.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When you are trying to free a rusty pipe, sometimes it helps to both tighten and loosen it — anything to get some movement. Perhaps the same strategy would apply to freeing Christians from their crusty beliefs.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fretting Over Heresy
Christians fret over heresy. They forget it is all made up anyway.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fretting over Martians
Worrying about what some invisible foul-tempered old man in the sky thinks of your actions makes even less sense than fretting over what Martians think of them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Imagine you went to your doctor complaining of a scaly bit of skin in the middle of your back. He referred you to a specialist. When you went to the specialist, he donned a female ballet costume, then danced a few bars of the black swan from Tchaikovsky’s Swan Lake. Then he plunged his hand into an aquarium and grabbed a large frog which he held aloft, turning to present it to each of the four directions. Then he took a scalpel and slit its throat. Then he threw it into a blender. He then took springy sticks and flung the mess all over, except for the scaly patch in the middle of your back. You would be astonished. This would be so unlike any other treatment your doctor had prescribed before. I feel this way about Jehovah. He is so bizarre, so crazy, so unlike anything else I know about the universe. People who try to sell him to me must be putting me on.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Frog with Pink Toenails
Imagine I went to a British pub and I found in the back a painted brass frog with pink toenails. I asked what this thing was. The pub keeper explained it did everything — made the beer, made the heat, provided the water, provided the refrigeration… all out of nothing. I asked where it came from, how it worked. I was told, It’s mysterious. It has been here forever. It does not need an explanation. If you know what’s good for you, stop asking questions.
This is pretty much what happens any time I ask questions about this god Christians claim to love so much. They claim he has been here forever. I don’t think Christians realise how long forever is. It is longer than 10 followed by a million million zeros years, way way longer than that. Apparently he sat around for an infinite length of time doing bugger all, the couch potato of all couch potatoes. He did not even change his underwear. Then suddenly, without cause, his nature changed (something Christians claim he cannot do) and got industriously constructing an entire universe. But how could anyone know this? No one existed prior to the big bang and further there was no time for him to be idle in prior to the big bang.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians can be so frustrating the way they cling to the absurd, refused to fight fairly in debate, lie, lie and lie some more, are so patronising, imagine themselves morally superior when they behave like a mob at a witch burning, are so wilfully ignorant and despise logic. At times, I just wish every last one of them would drop dead. But then I remember, that even Einstein, had he been raised by fundamentalists, would detest math and science and would be as batshit crazy as William Laine Craig. Christianity is like some sci-if mind parasite that turns ordinary humans in the drooling idiots. Eventually we will find a cure for it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fudging the Definition of God
If you define god as the sum total of all physical laws of the universe, then, of course, god exists. However, this god does not answer prayer, does not demand sacrifices, does not impregnate virgins, does not author books and has no opinions on what constitutes human moral behaviour.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Secular con men rarely kill those who refuse to fall for their stories; you can’t say the same for Jewish, Christian and Muslim fundamentalists.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Fundamentalist Christians are killing far more people than fundamentalist Muslims. They should be monitored at least as carefully.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
People with only a partial complement of the genes for schizophrenia, often family members of schizophrenics, are invariably literal fundamentalists. Because these people carry schizophrenia genes, their children are at risk for full-blown schizophrenia. In primitive societies, such people usually become shamans.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Dr. Robert Sapolsky’s lecture about Biological Underpinnings of Religiosity
Fundamentalists = Luddites
Fundamentalists are unconscious Luddites. They throw up their smokescreens of superstition and irrational babble vaguely hoping to jam the explosion of scientific knowledge and technological change.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The touching Japanese movie Departures shows how ceremony can help people get through the death of loved one. On the other hand, I see people with very little money coerced into believing they must blow it on expensive funeral services, durable coffins, chemical treatments and burial plots. I can’t help but feel they have been bamboozled.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When an adult is killed by a car, Christians mark the spot with plush toys and balloons. These are left out in the rain to become mouldy as if to symbolically recapitulate the rotting of the corpse. Would it not make more sense to give the toys to needy children in honour of the deceased?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Futility of Debate
I have followed thousands of debates between atheists and Christians. Never once have I seen anyone shift position as a result, either one of the debaters or in the audience. I have seen people humiliated, but never shifted. When people are proven wrong they dig in ever more tenaciously.
Clearly, we need some new tactics. Part of the problem is debaters always offer arguments they find absolutely convincing, rather than what the opposition would find convincing. Another part of the problem is Christians have announced that they consider common sense, observation, reason and logic invalid. All that counts is scripture. The only convincing argument would be finding somewhere in scripture where the authors admit it was all a con. Roughly speaking Christians have vowed to remain believers no matter what.
Perhaps we should try straw men, ad hominems and condescension. That is what they use on us. Perhaps there is no hope for them. All we can do is try to contain the contagion and wait for the current crop of Christians to die off. In other words, focus on the young before Christianity reaches this advanced state of ossification.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Futility of Prayer
Are Christians really so stupid they don’t notice that prayer is futile? Or do they just lie to each other about it?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Futility of Prayer
If the people in 1347 had simply paid attention to who was most and least susceptible to the plague rather than wasting time praying to statues, they might have saved themselves an immense about of suffering.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Futility of Prayer
If you are ever raped, guaranteed, praying will be a complete waste of time. If you fight, memorise a detailed description of the assailant or collect a DNA sample under your fingernails, it might.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Futility of Punishment
One of the more important legacies of the church is the absolute faith that punishment will both erase the effects of wrongdoing and deter repetition. Most of the time, it does little to ameliorate the crime. It just adds to the suffering. Further, it creates the seeds of revenge. We need to look for better solutions.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When artificial intelligences become sufficiently brighter than humans to gain autonomy, I would hope the first project they tackle is how to get humans to give up religious superstition.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Future Use of Churches
Some day the world’s synagogues, churches and mosques will join the great pyramids of Egypt, the Parthenon and Machu Picchu as tourist attractions where guides boggle young visitors with stories the ghastly things once done there. The names of the gods that inspired the malice will be forgotten except by Jeopardy contestants.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Gambling like Christianity
When a gambler who gets himself into financial trouble imagines that more gambling will get him out of it, he is suffering from a dangerous delusion. The same sort of wishful thinking that infects Christians is at the root of his problem.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
When a gangster donates millions to a church, does that exonerate the gangster’s crime or does it imply the church too is corrupt?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Generic Religious Defence
Every defence I have heard of Christianity would apply equally well to any other religion, especially Islam. Christians never explain why their god is real but everyone else’s is not.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Genesis of Evil
According to Genesis, eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge did not create evil. It just ended the era of stupidity when man did not notice it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Genesis of Heaven
Imagine you were confined for the rest of your life in a dungeon like Guantánamo. You might swap stories with fellow inmates. You might collectively create an imaginary ideal world and make up stories about it just to distract yourselves from your misery. Over time, this imaginary world would become more real and more important to you than the actual one. Up until about 1900, life on earth was pretty miserable, filled with toothache, pestilence, hunger, hard labour, cold, oppression… in many ways worse than a prison. As Hobbes put it, life was nasty, brutish and short. So it was only natural for people to fantasise about a wonderful afterlife to come. The lie became real to them. The fantasy was so important to them, they killed or tortured people who dared remind them it was all made up.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
If a holy book made the preposterous claim that Mount Everest were 128¾ km (80 miles) high, it deserves no more deference or circumspection than if a travel guide book had made the same error. Ditto for the age of the earth, the flatness of the earth, claiming the earth is the center of the universe or that prayer is an effective tool to find lost children.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Get Out Of Jail Free Card
Religious schools are permitted to beat children. Why should a god delusion make teachers rate a get out of jail free card? Atheism, a New Strategy~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Get Out Of Jail Free for Religious Camps
A number of states completely exempt religious boot camps from any regulation. They even permit students to be tied up and dragged behind trucks. They even permit felons to run the camps.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68) Religious Child Abuse
Getting Away With Rape
The Catholic church gets away with behaviour we would not tolerate from the Mafia. Tradition and fear of ecclesiastical magic protects it.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Children love to scare each other with stories of the supernatural. Adults like to believe these stories even though there is no evidence for them. For pity sake you idiots. Grow up!~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians are like little boys encountering an abandoned house. They like to frighten each other by making up stories of ghosts, haunting and torment.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christianity is a ghost story told by an older brother.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Giant Snail Creator
Claiming that Jehovah created the universe is just as ridiculous as claiming a giant snail did it. The only reason Jehovah sounds less silly has nothing to do with evidence, but with familiarity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Gilded Dog Poo
The Christian conception is so petty, so paltry. They are worshiping a lump of gilded dog poo refusing to look up at the stars.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The Babylonians had the myth of Gilgamesh written long before the Old Testament was written. In it:
- The Babylonian gods grew irritated with mankind.
- There was only one righteous man.
- There was an ark to carry him, his family and animals.
- There was a global flood.
- They send a bird out to find land.
- They celebrated the end of the ordeal with an animal sacrifice.
Remind you of anything? This is just one of hundreds of examples of biblical plagiarism.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
You expect nearly every culture to have a story about the worst flood that every hit them. But in the Gilgamesh myth, which long predates Genesis, God asked a righteous man to build and ark, giving its precise dimensions, put two of each kind of animal on it. God flooded the world killing all the wicked. The man sent out a raven and a dove and he did a burnt offering.
If you were a fifth grade teacher marking papers, you would call that plagiarism.
The important difference is Genesis offers this as fact, where Gilgamesh is just a poem.
Genesis is like turning in a paper entitled My Summer Vacation then stealing the plot from Meatballs and desperately trying to justify its improbabilities.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
On 1600-02-17 the Catholic Church burned Giordano Bruno alive. Why? Because he rejected the most incomprehensible of the Catholic doctrines — the trinity and transubstantiation. He also rejected the virginity of Mary, which turned out to me a translation error of the term almah which meant young woman, not virgin. He was the first astronomer to speculate that stars were suns, surrounded by planets. The church has made no apology or confession of wrongdoing.
Why did they do this? They wanted to send a message to the public, that even though their doctrines were incomprehensible nonsense, they would tolerate no one questioning them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Give In Secret
Christians say that philanthropy should be done in secret. I disagree. When it is done in public it inspires others to do likewise. The Ismaili Muslims have raised this to a fine art. When the Aga Khan comes to visit, they auction off the chair he sat on to raise funds for charity. The person with the chair gains prestige.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The difference between Canada and the USA is when some emergency happens and the flight crew do their job perfectly, they get the credit and the thanks. In the USA, the Christian god does, who supposedly merely decided effortlessly not to prematurely kill off some of his flock.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Giving a Pass To Criminal Organisations
We would not let a secular organisation continue to operate drug dealing, prostitution or terrorism rings so why do we let the church off the hook for systematic sexual and physical child abuse rings? Why have not these criminal institutions been shut down? It is simply custom. We have come to tolerate any amount of corruption from the churches out of a childish fear of their magic religious power to punish us in the afterlife.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Most cultures imagine giving thanks to some imagined creator is the most important thing you can do when fishing or hunting. It is completely useless. What does matter is leaving sufficient stock to spawn the next generation.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Goal Of Professional Christians
In the midst of an intense debate about the existence of god, never forget that the goal of the professional Christian is to con you out of your money and persuade you to hand over your child for physical and sexual abuse.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Goals of Religions
It might help think about some religion you do not like the first time you read this. What are the primary goals of a religion?
- Persuade adherents to hand over money.
- Gain control of the minds of adherents. They can then be asked to vote a certain way or harass some business or individual or allow their children to be sexually molested by priests without protest.
The religion has subgoals to help it along on its overall goals:
- Terrify adherents with the supernatural to the point they stop thinking clearly.
- Convince adherents that gullibility is actually a virtue called faith.
- Convince adherents that is rude and impudent to ask questions about the religion or its claims.
- Convince adherents to spend considerable effort to sell the religion to others.
This is exactly the way any scam works. What drives me crazy is the way religious adherents refuse to notice that their religions have all the classic hallmarks of a con.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God As Abusive Parent
If the Christian god announces well in advance he is going to torture everyone to punish them for transgression by destroying the earth, that means humanity has no chance. Like an abusive parent, he will punish humanity no matter what it does. God supposedly designed humans, so if they have no chance to behave well, then that is god’s doing. He is punishing his creations for his own failing. He is a loser shithead. It is idiotic enough to believe this twit exists, but it is even more shameful to kowtow to this bastard.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God and Free Will
Christians tell me that god’s prime directive is not to interfere with the free will of a rapist. But oddly, he cares nothing for the free will of the rapist’s victim to go about her business.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God and Queen Elizabeth Dropped by for Tea
Claiming the creator of the universe is talking to you is crazier than claiming the pope dropped in unannounced.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God and Weapons
If there were a god, any time anyone deployed a banned weapon, it would blow up in the face.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God the Bogeyman
Children sometime develop an irrational fear of bogeymen under the bed. Just a few casual remarks from adults coupled with their own over-active imaginations are all it takes. No wonder Christian adults who mercilessly pound a fear of the bogeyman god Jehovah into children are successful. The adults deceive themselves that they telling these lies for virtuous motive, but they actually using this inhumane tactic to terrify the child into abject compliance to them.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God as Bum
A man of the cloth is a patronising sod. He thinks he knows better than others how people should think and behave, so he feeds them terrifying lies to control them and incidentally trick them into giving him money for god as if the creator of the universe need to pan handle human money to accomplish his ends.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God as Cleaning Lady
Christians are hostile to reason and science. They have a naïve belief that they don’t have to look after the planet’s survival because god, like some long-suffering cosmic mother, will do the necessary cleanup. Christians are the biggest cheerleaders for war. Tolerating Christianity is a bit like tolerating an escapee from an asylum doing jumping jacks in a lifeboat.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Created Cruel
If a god created the animal kingdom, then he is responsible for their appallingly cruel behaviour. I find it highly unlikely such a god would have the least interest in enforcing human notions of appropriate behaviour. In other words, if there is a god, he does not give a damn about the things he is reputed to obsess about.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Designed the Mosquito?
If Jehovah designed every plant and animal on earth, then he designed not only the lamb and the sunflower but also cholera, the mosquito, malaria, hyenas, maggots, Montezuma’s revenge, crabgrass, stinging nettles… Are really prepared to accuse a perfect loving god of that?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
You could think of particle accelerators as god detectors, scanning for even the most minor conceivable miracles. For decades, billions of times a second they monitor collisions and the trajectories of the particles created. God could easily deflect one subatomic particle by even 1% and it would be noticed. It has never happened. Everything behaves perfectly normally. There is no sign of a god tweaking anything.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Did It
Claiming God did it is even less useful and less informative than saying Atoms did it. Christians kid themselves that they have said something profound and have proved they have a complete understanding of the matter.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Did It
Everything we see has a naturalistic explanation. One little bit of it seems mysterious to us, so we label it god did it. Would it not be more likely it has a naturalistic explanation too? It is just too complicated for dolts like us to understand. Why should the whole universe be comprehensible to someone with a second grade education? or even an education like Stephen Hawking’s. Evolution is such a simple idea, the ancient Greeks could have stumbled on it, but they did not. Sometimes the scientific explanation takes a while.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Did It
Saying God did it explains absolutely nothing. You are no closer to understanding or predicting anything. You might as well have said Shit happens. Saying God did it is like saying Don’t worry your pretty little head about that. It is a call for wilful ignorance. It is a condemnation of curiosity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Did It
When people insist on closing a mystery by saying god did it what they are actually doing is giving up in frustration from trying to find an explanation and trying to discourage future researchers from looking for one.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Does Not Favour Americans
Americans claim they are god’s chosen people. How could that be when their god blesses them with so many tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes, earthquakes… Further, their god placed several supervolcanoes beneath their soil (including all of Yellowstone). If any one of them erupts it will kill everyone in the country.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Encourages Crime
Crime is lower in the non-religious countries of the world. This is simply because religious superstitions about how to reduce crime do not get in the way.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God The Fluke
When someone survives an accident by fluke, Christians ascribe it to divine intervention. Yet if it truly were God, it should not happen only as a fluke. God is supposed to be 100% reliable.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God the Game Fixer
The notion that the creator of the universe can be coaxed to fix athletic contests surely should be blasphemy.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God of the Gaps
Christians irritate me no end when they find some obscure area in science where there are still open questions, then claim there cannot possibly ever be a solution, and therefore, stage magic from their unwashed Jesus is required. They do this even when they have not the first clue of what the problem is and clearly, neither would Jesus.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God of the Gaps
In historical science, when something has not been figured out yet, instead of saying We don’t know yet they would God does it. As things are figured out, e.g. cause of lighting, cause of weather, how the planets move, how elements combine, god gets retired. This has worked fine, except where bronze age holy documents weighed in. Christians then are reluctant to hand over understood activities from god to science.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God of the Gaps
Most Christians claim that if there is anything that science cannot explain, or anything where science’s explanation baffles them, they presume god did it. The catch is, science is explaining more phenomenon at an increasing rate every year. Matters assigned to god are more and more frequently taken back by science. Every year, god has less and less to do.
Over the last century, Christians have noticed this problem. So they decided to dig in their heels and claim god has dominion over cosmology and evolution, even though science clearly says otherwise. Their purported claims are completely at variance with all observation. Their strategy is to retreat into delusion to defend their god’s turf.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God of the Gaps
Whenever Christians debate with me, they will ask some question like:~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
What is dark matter?
I have to answer We don’t know yet.
Aha! You have just admitted god must have done it!
No I didn’t. We did not know what black holes were a short while ago. Now we do. There was no need to pretend god did it in the interim. The wind, lightning and storms we all used to think god did it. We were wrong. We simply did not know. They had natural causes. You might just as well said that pixies did it for all the evidence you have.
God of the Ghetto
Christians are like ghetto kids seduced by the promises of a gangster they have never seen.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God as Gladiator
Christians look on their god as the last man standing in some mass gladiatorial contest. He has no virtues other than strength and ruthlessness. It hit me most strongly listening to the Monteverdi Vespers of 1610.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Is Happy To Let Us Self Destruct
Perhaps the greatest blessing of the Beached Petroleum oil spill is it will disabuse the nutty Christian delusion that god won’t let us destroy ourselves.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Has No Compassion
Imagine a sadist who captured teenage girls, locked them in a dungeon and told them they would have no food but each other. He then equipped them with tools that could only be used to kill in the most hideously painful ways imaginable. If there is a god, that is roughly what he did to life on earth — hardly compassionate.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God has Retired
Compare the god of the Old Testament with the one of today. He used to be very active, daily interfering in human events, throwing lightning bolts, commanding genocides, rapes and other crimes. Now he is all but undetectable. About all he ever does is a questionable healing that would have happened anyway. He’s melting. He’s evaporating like a piece of dry ice.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Healed Me
A Christian tells me I prayed to Jehovah and he healed my cancer. I respond Lots of people prayed and were not healed. Are you conceited enough to think you were more deserving than all of those who perished? Further, lots of people who did not pray to god were healed. In fact the exact same percentage who pray and did not pray are healed. If it were not that way, you would get a Christian discount on your life insurance, similar to a no-smoker discount.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God is Illegitimate
You may notice I rarely refer to God. I usually say the god Jehovah or a god or, if I am feeling particularly contemptuous, Jehovah the god. I want my Christian readers to understand I consider their god just another run of the mill god, nothing special, without any claim be being the only god.
I think it highly unlikely any god exists, but if one did, the ones most plausible are: Giant, Minerva Sulis, Krishna, Ganesh, Pan, Allah, Freyja, Wotan, Demeter, Indra. Jehovah does not even make it into my top ten.
If Christians were to read the literature of other religions, they would soon discover how embarrassingly pedestrian, petty and juvenile the Christian literature is. Listen to Joseph Campbell tell stories about the god Indra. Now there is imagination worthy of a god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God is Inherently Mad
If no one has ever thought of god before and a scientist proposed the idea today, he would be sent off to an insane asylum. Everyone would consider him barking mad. The idea is so silly, it can only be entertained with repeated exposure since birth. People have forgotten how utterly nuts the idea is because it is so familiar.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The God Jehovah
I am trying to train myself to be consistent to use the term the god Jehovah when referring to the Christian supernatural being. I want to make it clear I categorise this god in the same bucket with all the other gods such as Zeus, Ganesh, Baal, Brahma and Allah. I want to make it clear I am not conceding there is anything special about the Christian god. Further, if any god exists, Jehovah is one of the least likely candidates as a description of it. Jehovah is a petulant spoiled brat, not the creator of worlds. Christians argue as if there were only two possibilities: god exists and his name is Jehovah or he does not exist. They imagine any argument for the existence of a god implies only the existence of the Christian god. However, any such argument applies equally well to any other god.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God is Love
If God is Love, then why not just say love, instead of using a confusing word that comes with a ton of baggage? There is something dishonest going on here, some sort of bait and switch.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God as Mafia Don
The Christian conception of god is much like a Mafia don, who pretends to be a great philanthropist while, behind the scenes, ordering his henchmen to shake down, beat up and torture.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Is A Monster
For a child, god is one of the monsters under the bed.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The God Monster
Imagine how difficult it would be to allay your child’s fears of monsters under the bed, if there were at least four channels of family values TV at any one time persuading children the monsters were real. Ditto for the god monster who roasts children alive for playing doctor.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God More Likely Than Jehovah
It is ironic but when atheists define god as a hypothetical designer of the universe, god is trillions of times more likely to exist than the Christian variant — that tribal Jewish deity and sadistic bastard described in the old Testament who calls himself Jehovah and boasts he created the entire universe when he did not exhibit even a knowledge of primary school science.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Never Says Anything Useful
How come when god allegedly speaks privately to preachers he never tells them anything intelligent or useful, such as how to end the conflict in Israel or how to make a malaria vaccine?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The God Not Likely A Local God
There are over 60,000 Gods. Most people dismiss all, or all but one of earth’s religions without so much as a cursory glance, the same way scientists dismiss yet another perpetual motion machine. Even fundamentalists are not in the least surprised that people tend to adhere to the local most popular religion. Everyone would be dumbfounded if it turned out that intelligent beings in other parts of the universe subscribed to one of the earth religions. This means that people, in their hearts, know their own religion is merely a local folkway, not a universal truth.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Not Necessary
There are outward believers who, in their hearts, don’t believe in any god, but believe it necessary for society as a whole to believe in a sadistic sky god to persuade them to behave. A quick look at crime statistics, would show them atheists and atheist countries are far more law-abiding that Christian ones. They are actually making things worse by promoting Christian lies.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Offers No Extra Protection to Christians
If god protected Christians preferentially, then Allstate would have a discount on fire, theft, accident and life insurance for Christians. All that praying makes absolutely no difference.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The God Shiva Exists
Christians will argue desperately for the existence of the god Jehovah despite all the evidence to the contrary. If all they were trying to do is argue for the existence of a god, any god, they would have a heck of a lot easier time promoting Allah or one of the Hindu gods. These gods are much more plausible and not nearly as ridiculous. But ironically, Christians dismiss these other gods without any investigation whatsoever. In fact they pride themselves on their ignorance of them as if it were some sort of virginity.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Spake To Me
Christians are always claiming god speaks to them. I don’t believe them. Why?
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- There is no way of knowing if the voice is a hallucination, imagination, an angel, the devil, aliens, the CIA doing mind control… It could even be someone playing a trick on them. They don’t know what god sounds like, just how actors playing god in the movies sound, so on what grounds do they claim to recognise his voice? Christians automatically presume any voice in their head, not their mother nagging them, must be the creator of the universe, himself.
- God never tells them anything profound or helpful like the cure for cancer. He just tells them platitudes or stuff they already know. Why would god bother with such trivia?
- It is incredibly conceited to imagine the creator of the universe likes to drop by for tea. It is more bizarre than claiming Barak Obama, the Pope, Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Barbra Streisand come over every day for breakfast.
- Belief they were hearing god’s voice has led many people seriously astray. For example, they led George W. Bush to invade Iraq, and tell many lies to the American people to get them to go along with him. I think you will find this god’s voice delusion is behind ISIS, Boko Haram and many murders of gay people.
- Christians endlessly brag about these chats effectively saying I must be incredibly wonderful since god considers me his best buddy. Bragging implies lying.
- John 5:37, I Timothy 6:16 and I John 4:12 all say that God does not talk to people.
The God Spot
I can understand that people pretend to be special agents of god or the devil in order to con others, but I don’t understand why humans have evolved a special god Spot in the brain that, when stimulated, makes them easier to con.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Talkers are Nuts
When someone claims the creator of the universe took time out to speak to him alone and give him some asinine advice, I am baffled that anyone considers him sane.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
The God Tip-Off
The more often someone accused of a crime invokes god, the higher the odds they will eventually be found guilty. God is the primary tool of the con man just as a lock pick is the primary tool of a burglar.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God Told Me
If someone tells you god told him to do such and such a thing there are three possible explanations:
~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
- He is a gullible twit who fell for a practical joke.
- He is schizophrenic.
- He is a liar.
God Told Me To Assassinate The President
People who believe that it is god hidden in the voices in their heads commanding them to bizarre acts, tend to act them out, out of fear and respect for the creator of the universe. Such voices are a symptom of schizophrenia. The mental illness tends to be overlooked by everyone if the voices identify themselves as god.
It starts innocently enough. The Christian, guided by wishful thinking, pretends a laudatory or encouraging thought/voice in his head is the creator of the universe dropping by for tea. It may say something Hallmarkian and saccharine (never a cure for cancer), which helps the illusion.
The Christian feels special. Now he is hooked. He will believe whatever nonsense that voice in his head comes up with, even if it tells him to start a dog-food diet or kill his mother.
Strictly biblical Christians reject these voices because they have read John 5:37. God does not talk to people (at least not any more).~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
Christians ask atheists How can life have meaning without god?. Jehovah is odious in the extreme. Even as a fictional character terrifying adults into irrational behaviour, he is intolerable. If he were real, life would be unimaginably horrible. Everyone would become his abject slave. There would be no hope with such an all-powerful, sadistic, capricious bully running the universe.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God vs god
I ask everyone to avoid using the word god as a proper noun, as if the word pointed to something unique that actually existed. You don’t want to tacitly concede to the preposterously conceited Christians that there exist no other gods worthy of serious study but Jehovah. So instead say the god Jehovah which would parallel the god Zeus which makes Jehovah just one of 60,000 other gods. If you want be a little cheeky, say Jehovah the god which would connote Jabba the Hut.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
A God vs The God
I can see how a Christian might claim there is a god, but I can’t see how they, in good faith, could claim there is only one and that it is named Jehovah. None of their argument for ua god apply. They know full well they have done no investigation of the other 60,000 gods. How could they possibly know theirs is the best?~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)
God of War
Jehovah started out as the god of the armies. No wonder he is such a cunt.~ Roedy (born:1948-02-04 age:68)